NutraPlanet Presents: Bulk Lipoderm carrier

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by psychospic View Post
    I used to take YCL orally at 25mgs. I stopped when I started using Lipo-Ultra with RK and Cap. I plan on picking up the bulk stuff and adding the RK and using capsaicin but seeing as the lipo is localized can I start supplementing with YCL orally again and if so, can I pick up again at 25 mgs or should Take it down to 20 or even 15 or less?
    I would definitely take it down some. Some YHCl is bound to go systemic, and the question would be how sensitive are you?
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I would definitely take it down some. Some YHCl is bound to go systemic, and the question would be how sensitive are you?
    I am assuming I am not too sensitive. I weigh 220 and felt no sides from 25 mgs of YCL I was taking daily. I started at 15 then slowly bumped up until I reached 25 I was following the formula given in one of Par Deus' write ups about how many mgs per pound of bodyweight, then I went over a little and stayed at 25 as I felt no harsh sides.

    How much YCL is in Lipo-ultra anyway?
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by psychospic View Post
    I am assuming I am not too sensitive. I weigh 220 and felt no sides from 25 mgs of YCL I was taking daily. I started at 15 then slowly bumped up until I reached 25 I was following the formula given in one of Par Deus' write ups about how many mgs per pound of bodyweight, then I went over a little and stayed at 25 as I felt no harsh sides.

    How much YCL is in Lipo-ultra anyway?
    I think Lipo-Ultra contains about 4 grams, though it has been a LONG time since I was in charge of production at Avant.
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  4. Ok, so recipe question. The 8oz comes with 6g of yohimbine, 3g of caffeine. From what i've read here, looks like 10g total is max that will squeeze in. I've read bits and driblets about the value of replacing the caffeine with nicotine, and about capsacin. I ordered the bulk RK with it, that I can either add to this or take orally or both. I'm currently on a CKD diet, loosing about 2 - 2.5 pounds a week. What would be my most beneficial mix to loose the love handles, and maximize ab definition over the next 8 weeks? I've used capsacin for arthritis relief before, so I can tolerate it fine. Painful, but eh, so what. So is trying to climb stairs 60 pounds overweight. And I'm motivated as heck too.

    Also, just as comedy, if its so effective at localized fat loss, wouldn't you loose all the fat in your hands?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Ok, so recipe question. The 8oz comes with 6g of yohimbine, 3g of caffeine. From what i've read here, looks like 10g total is max that will squeeze in. I've read bits and driblets about the value of replacing the caffeine with nicotine, and about capsacin. I ordered the bulk RK with it, that I can either add to this or take orally or both. I'm currently on a CKD diet, loosing about 2 - 2.5 pounds a week. What would be my most beneficial mix to loose the love handles, and maximize ab definition over the next 8 weeks? I've used capsacin for arthritis relief before, so I can tolerate it fine. Painful, but eh, so what. So is trying to climb stairs 60 pounds overweight. And I'm motivated as heck too.

    Also, just as comedy, if its so effective at localized fat loss, wouldn't you loose all the fat in your hands?
    No need to add capsaicin, since it comes in a separate cream. I would personally add 2 grams of caffeine, the YHCl, and 1-2 grams of RKs.

    As for your hands, there is not much fat on them at all...only hair (well, unless you took your priest's advice and stopped that nasty practice.)
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    No need to add capsaicin, since it comes in a separate cream. I would personally add 2 grams of caffeine, the YHCl, and 1-2 grams of RKs.

    As for your hands, there is not much fat on them at all...only hair (well, unless you took your priest's advice and stopped that nasty practice.)
    Guess I have to hunt around for the capsaicin then, i'm sure i have a tube here somewheres. I guess I may as well start that right away? Since i'm already at 6gm of CLA, 3-4g of HMB, omega 3-6-9 out the wazoo, and in strong ketosis, my body is definitely fueling off the fat. So just mobilizing more from that area should do the trick!

    Thanks for the help. Now I just have to decide what to do with a spare gram of caffeine 100mg to a cup of coffee, so I guess dumping it into a relatively fresh jug of whey powder and shaking to mix would work so long as its more than 10 servings worth.

    Thanks for the help!

  7. Last dumb question, are there any of the essential oils that adding could be of benefit? My wife + kids make soap, candles etc, and we've got around 30-40 different real essential oils, not just the scented stuff. I'm not sure offhand what I have, but if there are any that are of particular value, i'll check.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Last dumb question, are there any of the essential oils that adding could be of benefit? My wife + kids make soap, candles etc, and we've got around 30-40 different real essential oils, not just the scented stuff. I'm not sure offhand what I have, but if there are any that are of particular value, i'll check.
    Good question...if you post a list, I can run a quick search. I know peppermint oil would help slightly increase penetration.

    I have some other oils on a list I keep in my head for future products (clove oil being one).
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Good question...if you post a list, I can run a quick search. I know peppermint oil would help slightly increase penetration.

    I have some other oils on a list I keep in my head for future products (clove oil being one).
    I'll check when I get home. I know offhand I do have peppermint, spearmint, orange, tangerine, lime, lemongrass, clove, cinnamon, ginger, ylang ylang, hmm can't recall much more specifically. a bunch of tree ones too and a few florals.

  10. Any ideal range in terms of bodyfat for this to work?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Good question...if you post a list, I can run a quick search. I know peppermint oil would help slightly increase penetration.

    I have some other oils on a list I keep in my head for future products (clove oil being one).

    Ok heres what i have

    Lavender
    Tea Tree
    Peppermint
    Ylang-Ylang
    Eucalyptus
    Orange
    Ginger
    Lemon
    Clove
    Lemongrass
    Geranium
    Cedarwood
    Palmarosa
    Niaouli
    Citronella
    Basil
    Tangerine
    Cinnamon
    Lime
    Spearmint
    Wintergreen
    Birch
    Cajeput
    Fir Needle
    Litsea
    Patchouli
    Camphor
    Anise
    Spruce
    Petitgrain


    I picked up some Capzasin (brand named) in a little rollon type container from walgreens



    Which seems handy, it won't end up all over my hands that way. So I should just rub that on to help mobilze the fat cells in the areas I plan to use lipoderm on right?

  12. Try this one...its bad ass for sure.

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  13. That Capzasin is hot! I have the exact same stuff and wow... it takes some getting used to. Sometimes it's not so bad, but other times it feels like the deepest pits of hell on your stomach, especially after workouts and cardio.

    There have been days that I have worked out 12 hours after application, and I want to stab myself because it burns so bad. Maybe I'm just a little girl.

    There have been numerous times that I've had to apply GENEROUS amounts of aloe vera to my abs...

  14. Quote Originally Posted by illfoo View Post
    That Capzasin is hot! I have the exact same stuff and wow... it takes some getting used to. Sometimes it's not so bad, but other times it feels like the deepest pits of hell on your stomach, especially after workouts and cardio.

    There have been days that I have worked out 12 hours after application, and I want to stab myself because it burns so bad. Maybe I'm just a little girl.

    There have been numerous times that I've had to apply GENEROUS amounts of aloe vera to my abs...
    What I thought was interesting is that in the rollon its 1 oz of .15% strength. The walgreens brand was 1.5 oz of .1% strength (so same total capsacin load), but the name brand in the nice rollon bottle was cheaper. Seemed silly to me. Its hot but eh, c'est la vie. how often should I be swabbing myself down with it? as soon as it stops burning?

  15. Raspberry Ketones don't burn...and they work the same way.
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  16. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Raspberry Ketones don't burn...and they work the same way.
    I'll be using RK too, once it gets here. I just have no patience, but do have a walgreens up the street. So will using the capzacin separately be a waste then if i'm putting 1g of RK into the lipoderm?

  17. Not a waste, not at all...we just went with the RKs because they hurt less.
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  18. Best way to mix?


    The bottle is practically full with no room to shake. Any tips?

  19. Surprisingly, the capzasin doesn't hurt that badly rubbed on the gut. my knees ached a bit and I tried it there, that was completely different, really painful. I didn't feel the muscle or arthritis pain tho

    dsade, was there anything but the peppermint in that list of oils above worth adding other than to make me smell pretty

  20. Quote Originally Posted by jcam222 View Post
    The bottle is practically full with no room to shake. Any tips?
    Actually, I as just getting ready to post my experience and advice.

    The bottles is mostly full, but there should be enough room to create an air bubble which will mix the formula.

    I recommend folding a business card lengthwise. Dump about 1/4 of the Lipoderm Mix onto the card, wrap your hand around the rim of the bottle (to prevent spillover) then position the business card right over the rim, holding the card with your thumb and middle finger.. Tap the back of the business card with your index finger, and the powder will fall into the bottle cleanly. Please the lid on the bottle and shake the hell out of it.

    Open the lid, and there might be white powder around the rim...use the straw from the pump to push it down, or calmly tap the bottom of the bottle onto the counter until it falls in.Repeat 1/4 at a time until everything is mixed.
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by EasyEJL View Post
    Surprisingly, the capzasin doesn't hurt that badly rubbed on the gut. my knees ached a bit and I tried it there, that was completely different, really painful. I didn't feel the muscle or arthritis pain tho

    dsade, was there anything but the peppermint in that list of oils above worth adding other than to make me smell pretty
    So far the Clove oil and the Camphor, along with the peppermint oil, look promising.

    I apologize I haven't been able to search them all, as today was the resupply of DCP and it is has been horrendously busy here.
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    So far the Clove oil and the Camphor, along with the peppermint oil, look promising.

    I apologize I haven't been able to search them all, as today was the resupply of DCP and it is has been horrendously busy here.
    Its all good, thanks for looking at all. You guys have way better service than any online sites i've dealt with before. And besides, its not like the oils are going anywheres, or like the lipoderm arrived yet so i've got plenty of time to figure out if there is anythinge else to add . Its the internet life, impatience abounds.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Actually, I as just getting ready to post my experience and advice.

    The bottles is mostly full, but there should be enough room to create an air bubble which will mix the formula.

    I recommend folding a business card lengthwise. Dump about 1/4 of the Lipoderm Mix onto the card, wrap your hand around the rim of the bottle (to prevent spillover) then position the business card right over the rim, holding the card with your thumb and middle finger.. Tap the back of the business card with your index finger, and the powder will fall into the bottle cleanly. Please the lid on the bottle and shake the hell out of it.

    Open the lid, and there might be white powder around the rim...use the straw from the pump to push it down, or calmly tap the bottom of the bottle onto the counter until it falls in.Repeat 1/4 at a time until everything is mixed.
    cool thanks for the quick answer

  24. Quote Originally Posted by jcam222 View Post
    cool thanks for the quick answer
    My pleasure...let me know how well you do. If it really is too full, pour some out...add the actives as above, then add it back in.
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  25. yay, package #1 got here, quick q. Was it supposed to come with a sprayer/pump for the bottle? mine didnt.
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