So thats what they are branding adrenosterone as?its the same as AX's 3-ad
Did I shoot you? lolhey dont shoot the messenger..its all over bb.com use the search button
See, I dont know if 11 oxo is what they are calling it or not. It does appear this way though.So its just a cortisol blocker? Or wtf is a cortisol modulator?
It's a prohormone, same as 3AD, just a different marketing angle due to either AX's patent pending or PA not wanting to look like he's selling da juice (again).So its just a cortisol blocker? Or wtf is a cortisol modulator?
Yup, Rushi is calling it adrenosterone. I figured this is what 11-oxo was referring to. Interesting to see these prices play out.11-oxo-androstenedione
Ergopharm says it will be in the "premium" range.price range?
i believe he said mid 40s by the time it hits retailers. 60 caps at 75 mg each, 2-3 a day I believe. The premise is that this will cause less suppression than the dose that AX is recommending and instead focus more on cortisol control.
That would be awesome! Then 3 companies could fight it out cage match, to the death!:head:ALRI has a new mystery compound coming out. I wonder if it's some version of this?
or just draw too much attention and get this banned..from what i understandwhen the banned the old prohormones they made it very easy to add to the listThat would be awesome! Then 3 companies could fight it out cage match, to the death!:head:
Plenty of lube and no one gets hurt.We need Dsade to jump in the ring for a fatal 4-way.
Somebody asked Fit that: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/l-r-i/65000-tell-me-2.html#post818529ALRI has a new mystery compound coming out. I wonder if it's some version of this?
There goes that theory. Thanks for the link.Somebody asked Fit that: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/l-r-i/65000-tell-me-2.html#post818529
...she said that it doesn't appear to be the same. I can't get her to say anything else about the ALRI product though.
11-OXO aka adrenosterone is a selective inhibitor of 11beta-HSD1, an enzyme associated with conversion of the inactive cortisone to the active cortisol in target tissues11-oxo - Ergopharm's New Selective Cortisol Modulator...
Can anyone share a little more info on this?
Is this just the name for adrenosterone (their version of 3AD)?
With anabolic properties I presume?11-OXO aka adrenosterone is a selective inhibitor of 11beta-HSD1, an enzyme associated with conversion of the inactive cortisone to the active cortisol in target tissues
11-OXO aka adrenosterone is a selective inhibitor of 11beta-HSD1, an enzyme associated with conversion of the inactive cortisone to the active cortisol in target tissues
So are the anabolic properties more due to the cortisol lowering effects or does it stand strong alone, aside from this benefit?With anabolic properties I presume?
I would believe so.Couldnt one just take less pills of the AX version and get a better deal with the same results (ex, less suppression and more of a cortisol control).
hmmm, I'll pry sit this one out and see how the two compare. Besides Nutra has like 50 other things I need to buy lol.
it is a mild prohormone to the following four major productsWith anabolic properties I presume?
Wait, where did it say it was a DHT deriviative? I'm asking, not trying to say you're wrong.so if it is a DHT derivative, would it act on the scalp like DHT to cause hairloss?
This absolutely looks like a fantastic compound, that will give users a lot of options for effects, depending on dosage.Just make sure if you are looking for the pro-anabolic/androgenic effects (PH) you are dosing it in the 450-600mg range. Any less and you will have a plethora of other positive (cort/anti-e) benefits but not necessarily any of the PH benefits.
Does anyone know about its effects on the scalp?Wait, where did it say it was a DHT deriviative? I'm asking, not trying to say you're wrong.
I know bb.com is like an armpit to most of you, but y'all should check out the 11-oxo thread there. PA talks about it a good bit.
Waiting on final price.On a second note what kind of price are we looking at for 11-oxo? 35 bucks or less? plzzzzzz
Slow your roll bud...He's been unbanned for some time and has posted several times.Update: I just realized, you guys probably banned Pat after some heated debate. :nono: A board is only as good as its contributing membership.
Does that roll come with butter?Slow your roll bud...He's been unbanned for some time and has posted several times.
Yeah and you'll make me be nice to him here. Yeccch!Slow your roll bud...He's been unbanned for some time and has posted several times.
Being nice isn't required but it's like being at your job. You don't have to like your coworkers but you do have to be civil to them.Yeah and you'll make me be nice to him here. Yeccch!
Thanks D! Ive been lurking all day for that info.:thumbsup:Just realized that they never gave us the wholesale price, so we have no idea what to presale it FOR.
This will be up for presale tomorrow morning, I would say.
BUT MARK MY WORDS, WE SHALL BE THE FIRST!!!!!Thanks D! Ive been lurking all day for that info.:thumbsup:
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