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    Hey guys,

    I have a show coming up in about 4.5 weeks and I figured that I would let you guys know what has really been working for me for dropping bodyfat and retaining my muscle. Feel free to ask any questions. We can actually turn this into a Sticky if it is ok with Sam and Dsade......

    Fat Loss:

    NP Yohimbine HCL 4/day
    NP Green Tea Caps 3/day
    Lipoderm-Y: 6 squirts/day
    Bulk AMP'd: 50 mg pre workout
    CLA: 6 g/day
    DCP: 9 caps/day
    Sesamin: 3 g/day

    Pre Workout:
    1 scoop of NO Shotgun by VPX
    10 g glutamine
    Ultimate Pump Stack mixed in NO SHotgun

    Post Workout
    35 g WMS
    10 g Leucine
    10 g Glutamine
    10 g BCAA's

    Before Bed:
    3 Powerfull
    2 caps Fenugreek and MACA
    6-OXO w/penetrate 150 mg/day
    formestane w/penetrate 200 mg/day


  2. That's a nice stack. I'd add in some Anabolic Pump when you do a carb load for the show and you should be popping at the seams. I did it with a competitor I train and it worked rather well. Best of luck with the show
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  3. Right now, I am using a combo of vanadyl and ALA that is working wonders but I might give that a try. Thanks for the heads up.

  4. Don't forget your RPM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grexx View Post
    Hey guys,

    I have a show coming up in about 4.5 weeks and I figured that I would let you guys know what has really been working for me for dropping bodyfat and retaining my muscle. Feel free to ask any questions. We can actually turn this into a Sticky if it is ok with Sam and Dsade......

    Fat Loss:

    NP Yohimbine HCL 4/day
    NP Green Tea Caps 3/day
    Lipoderm-Y: 6 squirts/day
    Bulk AMP'd: 50 mg pre workout
    CLA: 6 g/day
    DCP: 9 caps/day
    Sesamin: 3 g/day

    Pre Workout:
    1 scoop of NO Shotgun by VPX
    10 g glutamine
    Ultimate Pump Stack mixed in NO SHotgun

    Post Workout
    35 g WMS
    10 g Leucine
    10 g Glutamine
    10 g BCAA's

    Before Bed:
    3 Powerfull
    2 caps Fenugreek and MACA
    6-OXO w/penetrate 150 mg/day
    formestane w/penetrate 200 mg/day
    Great looking setup and in contest dieting, I would seriously look into forskolin at 60mgs a day divided into 20mgs dosages.

    Cissus in the morning and before bed is a great Anti catabolic . I would add 10grams leucine pre workout aswell.

    If you want to try an Anabolic Pump send address by PM>
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by grexx View Post
    Hey guys,

    I have a show coming up in about 4.5 weeks and I figured that I would let you guys know what has really been working for me for dropping bodyfat and retaining my muscle. Feel free to ask any questions. We can actually turn this into a Sticky if it is ok with Sam and Dsade......

    Fat Loss:

    NP Yohimbine HCL 4/day
    NP Green Tea Caps 3/day
    Lipoderm-Y: 6 squirts/day
    Bulk AMP'd: 50 mg pre workout
    CLA: 6 g/day
    DCP: 9 caps/day
    Sesamin: 3 g/day

    Pre Workout:
    1 scoop of NO Shotgun by VPX
    10 g glutamine
    Ultimate Pump Stack mixed in NO SHotgun

    Post Workout
    35 g WMS
    10 g Leucine
    10 g Glutamine
    10 g BCAA's

    Before Bed:
    3 Powerfull
    2 caps Fenugreek and MACA
    6-OXO w/penetrate 150 mg/day
    formestane w/penetrate 200 mg/day
    What type of CLA are you using?
    That which does not kill us makes us stronger - Friedrich Nietzsche

  7. I use Tonalin brand CLA....It is very effective stacked with Sesamin. I use more things than I listed, but I figured this would be a general outline without taking up pages, lol. If you guys/gals have any questions on other products/supplements though, feel free to ask away.

    Mike

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  9. Quote Originally Posted by grexx View Post
    I use Tonalin brand CLA....It is very effective stacked with Sesamin. I use more things than I listed, but I figured this would be a general outline without taking up pages, lol. If you guys/gals have any questions on other products/supplements though, feel free to ask away.

    Mike
    Would you mind listing everything you use? I'm interested, even if it does take up pages

  10. Quote Originally Posted by grexx View Post
    I use Tonalin brand CLA....It is very effective stacked with Sesamin. I use more things than I listed, but I figured this would be a general outline without taking up pages, lol. If you guys/gals have any questions on other products/supplements though, feel free to ask away.

    Mike
    What specific brand(s)? HIGH dose Tonalin adds up pretty quick. And you have to get high doses for it to matter much. I want to run both CLA and Sesathin. I find Sesathin to be much more cost effective though, especially with NP's.
    That which does not kill us makes us stronger - Friedrich Nietzsche

  11. Quote Originally Posted by grexx View Post
    Hey guys,


    Lipoderm-Y: 6 squirts/day
    You're going to love us even more in a few weeks.

  12. Quote Originally Posted by Sir Savage View Post
    You're going to love us even more in a few weeks.
    Care to elaborate? Do we need to discuss yet another addition to the Avant line?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
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    Done!

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    I can pretty much make anything sticky. Just give me 3 mins. Does that make me a MOD??

  15. I really want to run Sesathin and CLA together as well. I just ordered both from NP. I'm really hoping Dsade can get us a good quality bulk CLA for a decent price. It takes a minimum 5g/day (1000mg caps -700mg actual CLA) to get the necessary 3.4g threshold of pure CLA for the desired effects.

    Primaforce's margins look pretty low already. NP might have to sell it in bags of 250-300.


    grexx: Do you not take Fish Oil or did you just not include it in that example stack? I can understand reducing fish oil to about 50-75% of normal intake on sesamin, however, I wouldnt remove it. They have somewhat of a synergy together. Fish Oil alters membrane phospholipids in a manner by which sesamin simply cant. I would keep the fish oil in there. Perhaps you already do...
    That which does not kill us makes us stronger - Friedrich Nietzsche

  16. very interesting thread

  17. Quote Originally Posted by grexx View Post
    Hey guys,

    I have a show coming up in about 4.5 weeks and I figured that I would let you guys know what has really been working for me for dropping bodyfat and retaining my muscle. Feel free to ask any questions. We can actually turn this into a Sticky if it is ok with Sam and Dsade......

    Fat Loss:

    NP Yohimbine HCL 4/day
    NP Green Tea Caps 3/day
    Lipoderm-Y: 6 squirts/day
    Bulk AMP'd: 50 mg pre workout
    CLA: 6 g/day
    DCP: 9 caps/day
    Sesamin: 3 g/day

    Pre Workout:
    1 scoop of NO Shotgun by VPX
    10 g glutamine
    Ultimate Pump Stack mixed in NO SHotgun

    Post Workout
    35 g WMS
    10 g Leucine
    10 g Glutamine
    10 g BCAA's

    Before Bed:
    3 Powerfull
    2 caps Fenugreek and MACA
    6-OXO w/penetrate 150 mg/day
    formestane w/penetrate 200 mg/day
    Thats a lot of supplements. Good-luck.
    Drug tested Competition?

  18. Quote Originally Posted by grexx View Post
    Right now, I am using a combo of vanadyl and ALA that is working wonders but I might give that a try. Thanks for the heads up.
    How are you dosing these two? vanadyl sulfate murders my appetite.

  19. Alpine,

    I use 6 g of fish oil per day split up into 2 caps 3x/day.

    Asianbabe,
    I use 30-40 mg vanadyl after my workouts and I use 300 mg ALA 3x/day.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by grexx View Post
    Alpine,

    I use 6 g of fish oil per day split up into 2 caps 3x/day.

    Asianbabe,
    I use 30-40 mg vanadyl after my workouts and I use 300 mg ALA 3x/day.
    Everything looks great...

    One thing I didnt understand was the glutamine. It's a growing opinion that oral administration of l-glutamine is pretty worthless. The absorption is so low that its almost pointless. Obviously, youre taking a high dose but it still seems like a waste.

    All of the positive studies/findings attributed to glutamine were based on infusion (IV administration) and studies done w/ burn patients and so forth (post surgery, bone marrow etc.). There is nothing showing oral glutamine does much for healthy individuals at all (and it has been studied a lot). 95% of it (or more) is destroyed upon ingestion. Multiple studies support the concept that blood and muscle glutamine levels have no bearing on protein synthesis and protein turnover. The only positive benefit of glutamine is for people doing corticosteroid treatment or with certain wasting conditions. And dont let the supplement companies fool you. Your workout (no matter how grueling) can never even come close to a catabolic condition like this. Its possible that glutamine could be mildly effective for improving ATP slightly on a ultra low carb diet (see study). I still think its pretty much a waste though.


    Here is probably one of the most favorable glutamine studies.

    Bruce M, Constantin-Teodosiu D, Greenhaff PL, Boobis LH, Williams C, Bowtell JL.
    Glutamine supplementation promotes anaplerosis but not oxidative energy delivery in human skeletal muscle. Am J Physiol Endocrinol Metab 2001 Apr;280(4):E669-75
    That which does not kill us makes us stronger - Friedrich Nietzsche

  21. Hey grexx is this a drug tested competetion.

  22. this is an NPC show, nough' said

  23. Alpine,

    Using 40 g/day of l-glutamine works wonders for recovery and hardness. Sometimes, you have to leave these studies alone and experience real world results. There is a reason why every national level/pro bodybuilder uses glutamine.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by grexx View Post
    Right now, I am using a combo of vanadyl and ALA that is working wonders but I might give that a try. Thanks for the heads up.
    AP works wonders for holding onto your mass while dieting/carbing up. Try Lipo-derm Ultra with Rasberry Ketones, i had great success with that combo on my current cut, and ya DCP is one of my fav's for fatloss.

  25. Quote Originally Posted by Alpine View Post
    Primaforce's margins look pretty low already. NP might have to sell it in bags of 250-300.

    I created that PF product....as hard as it is to beat your own work, it is possible. NP has a major advantage in that we don't have to resell to other retailers...so you get direct from the manufacturer.

    Now RPN could never beat PF, but NP can.
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