hey Dsade any chance of some bulk Salvia Miltiorrhiza?

Page 2 of 3 First 123 Last
  1. New Member
    acshadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    304
    Rep Power
    247
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    94.58%

    Dsade do you know how long the salvia will inhibit Dgat?

  2. NutraPlanet Fanatic
    dsade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    44
    Posts
    21,511
    Rep Power
    831744
    Level
    86
    Lv. Percent
    75.44%
    Achievements Activity VeteranActivity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by acshadow View Post
    Dsade do you know how long the salvia will inhibit Dgat?
    Great question. I am actually looking for that information right now for the expanded DCP writeup.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    BPS - Where Body meets Performance
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
  3. New Member
    acshadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    304
    Rep Power
    247
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    94.58%

    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Great question. I am actually looking for that information right now for the expanded DCP writeup.
    great
    •   
       

  4. New Member
    knightowl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    204
    Rep Power
    782
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    44.3%

    Just waiting for this so I can go through with my order
  5. NutraPlanet Fanatic
    dsade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    44
    Posts
    21,511
    Rep Power
    831744
    Level
    86
    Lv. Percent
    75.44%
    Achievements Activity VeteranActivity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    It should arrive this week, for sure.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    BPS - Where Body meets Performance
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
  6. Elite Member
    jmh80's Avatar
    Stats
    5'10"  180 lbs.
    Join Date
    Mar 2004
    Age
    34
    Posts
    8,110
    Rep Power
    9664
    Level
    57
    Lv. Percent
    88.61%
    Achievements Activity AuthorityActivity ProPosting ProPosting Authority

    Thanks for getting this out so quick, Matt.
  7. Club Myth CEO
    TheMyth's Avatar
    Stats
    5'9"  226 lbs.
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Age
    33
    Posts
    4,122
    Rep Power
    2194
    Level
    44
    Lv. Percent
    26.26%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    yes thank you, you are ausome, now I think I am going to have to order again!
  8. NutraPlanet Fanatic
    dsade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    44
    Posts
    21,511
    Rep Power
    831744
    Level
    86
    Lv. Percent
    75.44%
    Achievements Activity VeteranActivity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    SM should be in tomorrow or Thursday.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    BPS - Where Body meets Performance
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
  9. New Member
    acshadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    304
    Rep Power
    247
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    94.58%

    Dsade would you recommend capping SM?
  10. New Member
    knightowl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    204
    Rep Power
    782
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    44.3%

    Hopefully this will be in tomorrow !
  11. New Member
    knightowl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    204
    Rep Power
    782
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    44.3%

    Bumpy hopefully going to be up today ! I need to order
  12. New Member
    Torque's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    47
    Rep Power
    117
    Level
    6
    Lv. Percent
    40.29%

    Hey Dsade, If you already have a few bottles of DCP would getting this compound help?
  13. NutraPlanet Fanatic
    dsade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    44
    Posts
    21,511
    Rep Power
    831744
    Level
    86
    Lv. Percent
    75.44%
    Achievements Activity VeteranActivity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by Torque View Post
    Hey Dsade, If you already have a few bottles of DCP would getting this compound help?
    Higher dosages of SM would definitely help prevent tracylglycerides from being reformed more effectively. If your wallet can handle it, then it would definitely be a very effective addition.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    BPS - Where Body meets Performance
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
  14. New Member
    Torque's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    47
    Rep Power
    117
    Level
    6
    Lv. Percent
    40.29%

    Is this item still on track to be available to order today?
  15. New Member
    knightowl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    204
    Rep Power
    782
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    44.3%

    How About today dsade ? sale is over monday and my shopping cart has been waiting for last 10 days ........
  16. NutraPlanet Fanatic
    dsade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    44
    Posts
    21,511
    Rep Power
    831744
    Level
    86
    Lv. Percent
    75.44%
    Achievements Activity VeteranActivity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by knightowl View Post
    How About today dsade ? sale is over monday and my shopping cart has been waiting for last 10 days ........
    It was coming via ground shipment, which usually comes around 2 EST. I will know shortly.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    BPS - Where Body meets Performance
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
  17. New Member
    acshadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    304
    Rep Power
    247
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    94.58%

    if it does not come in today, do you think you could presale it so we can still take advantage of the sale without having to make separate orders?
  18. New Member
    knightowl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    204
    Rep Power
    782
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    44.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by acshadow View Post
    if it does not come in today, do you think you could presale it so we can still take advantage of the sale without having to make separate orders?
    that will be a great idea
  19. NutraPlanet Fanatic
    dsade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    44
    Posts
    21,511
    Rep Power
    831744
    Level
    86
    Lv. Percent
    75.44%
    Achievements Activity VeteranActivity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by knightowl View Post
    that will be a great idea
    Let me see what I can do.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    BPS - Where Body meets Performance
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
  20. New Member
    acshadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    304
    Rep Power
    247
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    94.58%

    thanks Dsade, not to derail this too much but are you guys ever gonna get chocamine back in?
  21. NutraPlanet Fanatic
    dsade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    44
    Posts
    21,511
    Rep Power
    831744
    Level
    86
    Lv. Percent
    75.44%
    Achievements Activity VeteranActivity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by acshadow View Post
    thanks Dsade, not to derail this too much but are you guys ever gonna get chocamine back in?
    Chocamine will be in Tuesday.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    BPS - Where Body meets Performance
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
  22. New Member
    knightowl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    204
    Rep Power
    782
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    44.3%

    Bump for presale ......
  23. New Member
    Bruth's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    166
    Rep Power
    177
    Level
    11
    Lv. Percent
    19.5%

    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Chocamine will be in Tuesday.
    Can someone link me to more info on Chocamine and what its used for (beyond the writeup on NP)?
  24. New Member
    acshadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    304
    Rep Power
    247
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    94.58%

    Introduction

    Chocamine is a proprietary cocoa extract meant to provide the stimulation and health benefits of chocolate without any of the unnecessary, potentially unhealthy ingredients (such as sugar and fat). It contains numerous constituents, including methylxanthines (theobromine, caffeine, and theophylline), biogenic amines (phenylethylamine, tyramine, and according to one source, synephrine), amino acids (phenylalanine, tryptophan, tyrosine, others), minerals (with a high content of magnesium), numerous beneficial antioxidants, and possibly some non-psychoactive cannabanoid-related compounds. The combination of these multiple ingredients produces a unique effect. Promotional literature makes many positive claims about Chocamine, including increased energy, appetite suppression, increased lipolysis (fat burning), improved mood, improved concentration, increased alertness, improved physical performance, aphrodisiac properties, and health benefits. This article will examine the properties of some of the known constituents of Chocamine.

    Methylxanthines

    The methylxanthines are a group of compounds that include caffeine and some related stimulants. Chocamine contains methylxanthines such as theobromine, caffeine, and theophylline. Each gram of Chocamine contains 120 mg theobromine and 80 mg caffeine.

    Caffeine is one of the most well-known stimulants, and functions primarily via antagonism of adenosine receptors. The properties of acute caffeine administration to humans include increased exercise performance, appetite suppression, increased rate of lipolysis, increased alertness, and reduced fatigue. Preliminary evidence suggests that regular consumption of small amounts of caffeine may also have neuroprotective and anticarcinogenic properties. On the other hand, caffeine is best avoided in those with high blood pressure and those prone to anxiety.

    Theobromine is similar in both structure and function to caffeine, but it has a longer half-life, which may be one of the reasons chocamine has the reputation of being a "long-lasting stimulant." Theobromine also has a relative potency a few orders of magnitude lower than caffeine, but the amount in Chocamine (assuming a gram or more is taken) is still enough to have a psychoactive effect.

    Theophylline is one of the most commonly used asthma medications due to its bronchodilating properties, and phosphodiesterase inhibition seems to play a relatively larger role in its pharmacologic activity compared to caffeine. Theophylline is also quite lipolytic, and in vitro studies indicate that it is more lipolytic than caffeine in equivalent concentrations, but it is unknown whether or not the amount in Chocamine is enough to have a significant effect.

    Biogenic amines

    Biogenic amines are neurotransmitter-related compounds such as synephrine, tyramine, octopamine, and phenylethylamine; these compounds are also commonly referred to as "false neurotransmitters," but the recent discovery of a specific receptor for these compounds in humans may have made this term obsolete. Nevertheless, they have many known actions in humans related to their effects on conventional receptors. Chocamine contains both phenylethylamine (PEA) and tyramine. One website indicates that it also contains synephrine, but I have been unable to confirm this as of yet.

    PEA is a naturally occuring compound that behaves as a stimulant in the brain, with effects similar to those of amphetamine. However, oral bioavailability of PEA is very low, and there is not strong support for the contention that oral administration could yield a psychoactive effect, as many studies have come out negative. Some individuals may be particularly sensitive to the effects of oral PEA. Also, administration with an inhibitor of MAO-B renders PEA orally bioavailable.

    Tyramine is another biogenic amine found in Chocamine. Tyramine is also found in relatively high concentrations in some foods such as aged cheese and wine. In insects, tyramine plays a similar role as a neurotransmitter to the role that epinephrine plays in mammals. In humans, tyramine can cause a release of norepinephrine. Tyramine is orally bioavailable, but unless an MAO inhibitor is being taken, large doses are required to exert an effect. It is unlikely that Chocamine contains a high enough amount of tyramine to have a significant effect, but it is possible that the tyramine content offers a mild contribution in terms of appetite suppression and lipolysis.

    Synephrine is another related compound (a metabolite of tyramine), and it is an alpha(1) agonist. Synephrine has a higher oral bioavailability than most of the other trace amines. Because of its alpha(1) agonist properties, synephrine may be effective at decreasing appetite and promoting lipolysis, and it was found to be an effective therapy in an animal model of depression.

    Amino acids

    Chocamine contains amino acids such as phenylalanine, tyrosine, and tryptophan, all of which may have antidepressant effects, and both phenylalanine and tyrosine have stimulant effects. Although the area hasn't been explored much, research indicates that these amino acids may have additive antidepressant effects.

    Tryptophan is the amino acid precursor to serotonin (5-HT), with 5-HTP as the intermediary. Many clinical studies suggest that tryptophan is an effective antidepressant, although it is not as reliably effective as 5-HTP. This is possibly due to the fact that there are more mechanisms that inhibit tryptophan transport across the blood brain barrier and conversion to serotonin. On top of this, it is unlikely that the amounts present in Chocamine are large enough to cause a significant change in brain serotonin status. Either way, the presence of this amino acid can be considered a possible benefit, but for a more reliable serotonergic antidepressant, 5-HTP is recommended. Tryptophan is yet another compound in chocamine that may contribute to appetite suppression.

    Tyrosine is the precursor to the neurotransmitter dopamine (DA). In humans, tyrosine supplementation leads to increased dopamine and norepinephrine levels in the brain without competitive inhibition of other amino acids. In turn, this may lead to the antidepressant, stimulant, and appetite suppressant effects of tyrosine observed in some studies.

    Phenylalanine is the precursor to PEA. It is also a precursor to tyrosine, and is active in smaller doses. Unlike PEA itself, oral supplementation with phenylalanine may increase levels of PEA in the brain, although the literature is contradictory on this point. One trial indicated that L-phenylalanine had an antidepressant effect, but it was an open trial. As is the case with PEA, L-phenylalanine is also an effective antidepressant when coadministered with an MAO-B inhibitor.

    Minerals

    Chocamine is reported to be rich in both magnesium and copper. There is generally no need for extra copper, although zinc, chromium, and vitamin C can all inhibit copper absorption to an extent. However, extra magnesium is generally beneficial. Increased magnesium intake has been associated with decreased risk of various cardiovascular disease states, and is also beneficial for the treatment of some conditions (such as migraine headaches). Other minerals found in chocolate, and presumably also present in Chocamine, are calcium and potassium.

    Phytonutrients

    Cocoa contains both plant sterols and fiber, both of which are beneficial to cardiovascular health, but the sterol content is low (and probably even lower when the fat is removed), and the fiber is lost with processing. However, cocoa contains high quantities of flavanoids (a class of polyphenols), including proanthocyanidins and the flavan-3-ols catechen and epicatechin, and according to the promotional literature, Chocamine is high in these compounds (and this is undoubtedly the case, since they are quite easy to extract). The content and makeup of these phytonutrients in chocolate is similar to that in apples (it is higher on a per weight basis, but less on a per calorie basis). Chocolate has been found to increase the content of these flavan-3-ols and proanthocyanidins in the bloodstream in humans. Other studies indicate that the antioxidant capacity of chocolate is comparable with that of garlic, blueberries, and strawberries. In three studies, ingestion of cocoa products was found to decrease LDL oxidation. Although well-designed epidemiological studies have not been done, studies have found cardiovascular disease reduction from other foods high in these compounds. It has also been suggested that chocolate/cocoa may share the anti-carcinogenic properties of foods with similar phytonutrients.

    Conclusions

    Chocamine contains many beneficial ingredients, especially if one is looking for CNS stimulation and appetite suppression. The effects could be compared to those of amphetamine, but not as potent or euphoric. Although it is likely that only 5 or 6 of the compounds in Chocamine are found in sufficient quantity to exert an effect, the combination of the many ingredients together will offer many subtleties and make for a rather unique supplement. This is a supplement that should be definitely avoided by those prone to anxiety attacks or with cardiovascular conditions because of the stimulating effects. Like other stimulants, it shouldn't be used before bed, and caution is strongly advised when combining with other stimulants. Recommended dosage is 1 gram 1-3 times daily (if in doubt, start low and move up). Although Chocamine undoubtedly is quite effective on it's own, the following supplements may have additive benefits when used at the same time.
  25. New Member
    knightowl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    204
    Rep Power
    782
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    44.3%

    Weekend Presale bump.

    1 more day to end of the sale dsade...
  26. New Member
    acshadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    304
    Rep Power
    247
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    94.58%

    Quote Originally Posted by knightowl View Post
    Weekend Presale bump.

    1 more day to end of the sale dsade...
    just make your purchase, then in the comments section ask them to wait till the salvia is in stock and then ship it together. NP has amazing CS, why not use it to its fullest?
  27. New Member
    acshadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    304
    Rep Power
    247
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    94.58%

    any update on this and chocamine?
  28. New Member
    Torque's Avatar
    Join Date
    Apr 2007
    Posts
    47
    Rep Power
    117
    Level
    6
    Lv. Percent
    40.29%

    Any eta on Salvia Miltiorrhiza. Last I saw it was supposed to be in last week.
  29. New Member
    knightowl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    204
    Rep Power
    782
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    44.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by Torque View Post
    Any eta on Salvia Miltiorrhiza. Last I saw it was supposed to be in last week.
    I though so too, my order is held up because of SM
  30. New Member
    acshadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    304
    Rep Power
    247
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    94.58%

    Quote Originally Posted by knightowl View Post
    I though so too, my order is held up because of SM
    same
  31. NutraPlanet Fanatic
    dsade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    44
    Posts
    21,511
    Rep Power
    831744
    Level
    86
    Lv. Percent
    75.44%
    Achievements Activity VeteranActivity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    I bump myself, I want you to bump me...


    Salvia Miltiorrhiza is IN. Look for it available to purchase later today.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    BPS - Where Body meets Performance
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
  32. New Member
    knightowl's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2006
    Posts
    204
    Rep Power
    782
    Level
    12
    Lv. Percent
    44.3%

    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I bump myself, I want you to bump me...


    Salvia Miltiorrhiza is IN. Look for it available to purchase later today.
    Awesome!
  33. New Member
    \_JIMBO_/'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    183
    Rep Power
    200
    Level
    11
    Lv. Percent
    99.5%

    OOOooooO.. So does this mean DCP is back too?
  34. NutraPlanet Fanatic
    dsade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    44
    Posts
    21,511
    Rep Power
    831744
    Level
    86
    Lv. Percent
    75.44%
    Achievements Activity VeteranActivity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by \_JIMBO_/ View Post
    OOOooooO.. So does this mean DCP is back too?
    DCP still has to finish up production.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    BPS - Where Body meets Performance
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
  35. New Member
    \_JIMBO_/'s Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2006
    Age
    30
    Posts
    183
    Rep Power
    200
    Level
    11
    Lv. Percent
    99.5%

    Nice, I just read that in another thread. My appetite is lookin foward to it
  36. NutraPlanet Fanatic
    dsade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    44
    Posts
    21,511
    Rep Power
    831744
    Level
    86
    Lv. Percent
    75.44%
    Achievements Activity VeteranActivity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    Pimpity Pimp pimp....all in the Pursuit of Lean:

    Salvia Miltiorrhiza 40% (75 grams) By NutraPlanet

    The Pimpanzee doesn't monkey around.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    BPS - Where Body meets Performance
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
  37. New Member
    acshadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    304
    Rep Power
    247
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    94.58%

    any word on chocamine?
  38. NutraPlanet Fanatic
    dsade's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2003
    Age
    44
    Posts
    21,511
    Rep Power
    831744
    Level
    86
    Lv. Percent
    75.44%
    Achievements Activity VeteranActivity ProActivity AuthorityPosting ProPosting Authority

    Quote Originally Posted by acshadow View Post
    any word on chocamine?
    Chocamine should be there Monday or Tuesday at the latest. There was a miscommunication with the supplier that delayed the shipment slightly.
    Evolutionary Muse - Inspire to Evolve
    BPS - Where Body meets Performance
    Flawless Skin Couture - We give you the tools to make you Flawless
  39. New Member
    acshadow's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2007
    Posts
    304
    Rep Power
    247
    Level
    14
    Lv. Percent
    94.58%

    please god let the chocamine be in tomorrow
  40. Senior Member
    Outside Backer's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2003
    Age
    36
    Posts
    2,629
    Rep Power
    89664
    Level
    37
    Lv. Percent
    81.13%
    Achievements Activity ProPosting Pro

    Best way to take chocamine and can it be stacked with salvia
    toes-on-the-nose.blogspot.com Deployed blogging
  

  
 

Similar Forum Threads

  1. Replies: 8
    Last Post: 09-03-2012, 02:22 PM
  2. any chance of brining back bulk 1,4ad bold
    By krogtaar in forum Nutraplanet
    Replies: 36
    Last Post: 07-28-2009, 09:42 AM
  3. Any chance of you getting Bulk GLYCINE?
    By bodybybrad in forum Nutraplanet
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 10-15-2007, 11:01 PM
  4. Replies: 38
    Last Post: 01-06-2007, 10:23 PM
  5. Any chance of carrying Kre-Alkalyn in bulk?
    By Baby Huey in forum Nutraplanet
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: 08-29-2005, 01:10 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Log in
Log in