Effectiveness of Turkesterone

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  1. Quote Originally Posted by fbxdan
    This one has been posted before i believe (http://www.insectscience.org/3.7/Laf...S_3_7_2003.pdf)
    That stydy only shows that it could be anti diabetic on humans,all the "growth" stydys were made on mice etc.
    It olso says that its probobly useless oraly.
    Have you reed it?
    it dosent prove anything.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by Dr Nick
    That stydy only shows that it could be anti diabetic on humans,all the "growth" stydys were made on mice etc.
    It olso says that its probobly useless oraly.
    Have you reed it?
    it dosent prove anything.
    Indeed that's the problem with these substances. People in the past have tried to overcome it with megadosing. I tried two ecdy cycles myself, didn't see jack ****. Never tried turk. I know some people tried putting ecdy in a transdermal to increase bioavailability perhaps but I have no idea if that would work, and if it did if the increased dose would make a difference considering how quickly they're metabolized. I wonder if anyone has ever tried to modify the substances to increase their half lives.
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  3. I found this research to be quite interesting a few months ago...I posted it and put some of the highlights in bold and was interested in others' conclusions.

    Practical uses for ecdysteroids in mammals including humans: ECDY
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  4. Quote Originally Posted by stxnas
    I found this research to be quite interesting a few months ago...I posted it and put some of the highlights in bold and was interested in others' conclusions.

    Practical uses for ecdysteroids in mammals including humans: ECDY
    Thats good research if your a rat or a pig, but it would be nice if people would offer some feedback on how it works for people. Several people have ran it, but limited feedback has come in..

  5. Heres some feed back on this page. Anyone up for some Thanksgiving Turkeysterone?

    Also there are other logs being run with the Ebol and Turkerestone.


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  6. Quote Originally Posted by scott72
    Thats good research if your a rat or a pig, but it would be nice if people would offer some feedback on how it works for people. Several people have ran it, but limited feedback has come in..
    That's all we have up until now...the pig studies are enough to get me to drop $20 and give some of NPs bulk stuff a try. I'm sure the next month or say will result in feedback from EBol. That thread that I started with the research had a few guys posting their feedback from using ECDY. Look past the study and check out the rest of the thread
    RcB Since 09-06-2011 20:55 EST, Post 49

  7. Correct...only in the type of business model NP has is a reasonably priced Turk even possible. We are basically making zero profit on this, in order to test in the real world what is hypothesized in the studies as far as effectiveness.
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  8. Quote Originally Posted by CDB
    I wonder if anyone has ever tried to modify the substances to increase their half lives.
    You mean like adding an enanthate ester and making a "pain free oral?"

  9. i happened into a gnc the other day and got two 180 capsule bottles of pinnacles anabolx for 15 dollars a bottle ,less the 20 % off for gold card so i couldnt pass it up, am planning on running 8 pills a day for 45 days, that will give me 40 mgs of turk and 40 of ponasterone, i will probably log it if there is interest, will be starting on the 15th of december

  10. I have a HUGE supply of old rolling papers. Wonder if I could use those to "parachute"

  11. Yep they work just fine if there EZWiders .If not you cant put much bulk in them without adding more papers just like a hog leg!Im sure you nkew that already though.


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  12. I tried parachuting Turk and it fell apart and almost puked out all the powder..this stuff is gross!!!

    So I tried something different. Mashed up half a banana, put 1 gm turk powder, mixed until fully supended in the mashed banana, place on your tounge, you hardly taste the turk and wash it down with water, goes down really easy as the mashed banana is very slippery.

  13. I'v forked out big time for some Turkesterone 20% extract and some Tongkat Ali 1:200 strength am going to run them both hard over the coming months with a perfect diet and no drinking.... i'll let you know how it goes!

  14. Quote Originally Posted by Jack Smith View Post
    I'v forked out big time for some Turkesterone 20% extract and some Tongkat Ali 1:200 strength am going to run them both hard over the coming months with a perfect diet and no drinking.... i'll let you know how it goes!
    It's an old thread, but new experiences are always welcomed.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by Jack Smith View Post
    I'v forked out big time for some Turkesterone 20% extract and some Tongkat Ali 1:200 strength am going to run them both hard over the coming months with a perfect diet and no drinking.... i'll let you know how it goes!
    I have about 20 grams of the 20%, and been looking for the perfect way to incorporate it.

    Definitely interested in following along.

    Hope you are capping the Long Jack...100:1 is bad enough. Never even heard of the 200:1.
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  16. The tongkat ali came capped but i was curious so i cracked one open to have a taste it's bitter as hell, I won't be doing that again in a hurry!.. The turkesterone came as a bag of powder, i had to get some caps shells and little twenty a go capsule filling kit for that, its a pain in the arse but fu*k it!

  17. Quote Originally Posted by Jack Smith View Post
    The tongkat ali came capped but i was curious so i cracked one open to have a taste it's bitter as hell, I won't be doing that again in a hurry!.. The turkesterone came as a bag of powder, i had to get some caps shells and little twenty a go capsule filling kit for that, its a pain in the arse but fu*k it!
    keep us posted and let us know if its worth it for being such a "pain in the arse"

    Good luck...

  18. I know this is an old thread but how did the Turk work???

  19. Quote Originally Posted by Lene28 View Post
    I know this is an old thread but how did the Turk work???
    Turk (or any ecdy for that matter) is an adaptogen. As such, its use needs to be carefully positioned subsequent to a very specific and unique environmental stress. Otherwise, there is no stress to adapt to. This is THE variable that accounts for the conflicting reviews seen in virtually every ecdy thread. Clearly, there is something going on. Folks just need to respect the fact that this compound needs to be used in the proper context.
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  20. Quote Originally Posted by Mixelflick View Post
    Folks just need to respect the fact that this compound needs to be used in the proper context.
    Which is...?

    Not to be too blunt, but folks may also just have to respect the fact that aside from steroids and peptides little if anything will really give them a measurable edge in terms of mass gain or overall performance. I have quite frankly heard enough bull**** in my time about 'using it right' or 'getting the right extraction process' to know it's all ****. If these things worked worth a damn they wouldn't need such specialized, and conveniently uncontrolled circumstances to show it. So until someone actually realizes the potential of these herbals by pulling out an active or two, concentrating the **** out of it and making sure it stays active and available in the body for reasonable amount of time if taken orally, I'll save my money.

  21. That's a fair point and a viable conclusion. I think it's worth the effort but that's just me..
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  22. Quote Originally Posted by Mixelflick View Post
    That's a fair point and a viable conclusion. I think it's worth the effort but that's just me..
    It might be for some. Nothing wrong with the placebo effect. Whatever works, works, in the end. I have no problem with people making or buying these powders. It amazes me though that people will drop 30+ bucks on something that is likely marginally if at all effective, and whose possible effects would likely be drowned out by positive changes to diet and training. Maybe synthesizing the actives in some of these herbals is hard as hell, I don't know. It surprises me though that to date no one has, as an example, found a relatively economic way to synthesize ecdy and tried to extend its half life by making a pain free oral or some other such nifty product. Or maybe they have and it didn't do diddly ****, in which case why bother, keep selling powders and unjustified claims, you know?

    Some powders are nice. I use cissus for knee pain, good analgesic and maybe it's helping the joint in some other way. Point is though powders that really and truly work are few and far in between. Any supp company that wants money from me at this point for anything beyond a multi and some fish oil better take their new discovery, isolate it, synthesize it, methylate it or stick an ester on it if possible/necessary, and then put it out. If I'm going to drop enough money for a cycle of test I might as well do the damn cycle.

  23. Quote Originally Posted by Mixelflick View Post
    That's a fair point and a viable conclusion. I think it's worth the effort but that's just me..
    It might be for some. Nothing wrong with the placebo effect. Whatever works, works, in the end. I have no problem with people making or buying these powders. It amazes me though that people will drop 30+ bucks on something that is likely marginally if at all effective, and whose possible effects would likely be drowned out by positive changes to diet and training. Maybe synthesizing the actives in some of these herbals is hard as hell, I don't know. It surprises me though that to date no one has, as an example, found a relatively economic way to synthesize ecdy and tried to extend its half life by making a pain free oral or some other such nifty product. Or maybe they have and it didn't do diddly ****, in which case why bother, keep selling powders and unjustified claims, you know?

    Some powders are nice. I use cissus for knee pain, good analgesic and maybe it's helping the joint in some other way. Point is though powders that really and truly work are few and far in between. Any supp company that wants money from me at this point for anything beyond a multi and some fish oil better take their new discovery, isolate it, synthesize it, methylate it or stick an ester on it if possible/necessary, and then put it out. If I'm going to drop enough money for a cycle of test I might as well do the damn cycle.

  24. ****, sorry it's almost a year since I'v been on AM, the Turkesterone,,, powerful stuff I was bombing 1.6 gram of the 20% turk every day for 12 weeks along with 1.2 gram tongkat ali,

    After about 8 weeks was noticing steady gains but by the 10th week skin was feeling tight around the shoulders, a fresh stretch mark appeared by the 12th week but not too bad.


    Doing the following this year for another 12 week....

    40% Turk @ 1 gram / day (12 weeks)
    1:200 Tongkat @ 2 gram / day (12 weeks)
    20-Hydroxyecdysone at 2.5 / day (then up to 3.5 gram/ day for the last 6 weeks).


    I'll try remember i've posted this time, Although its an old thread, if any one cares for an update let me know!

  25. I'm interested in hearing more, Jack

  26. Got a close friends 30th this weekend so i'll be out on the beer but Wednesday I start the 12 week run, updates and progress reports coming soon!

  27. where are you getting the 40% turk from?

  28. Quote Originally Posted by jdev View Post
    Aproximately how much stronger is Turk than ECDY?

    At a 2% extract, w/ a 75g container, you get 1.5g of of pure Turk

    In ebol you get 7.2g of ECDY and 1.8g of Cyasterone plus alot of extras.

    Also, Compared to E-Bol how effective will the Turkesterone be?
    ************ I take a product called botanabol. 5% ECDY plus mooiyo.
    Have had good result but have had to take 15 a day(caps).
    Brandon

  29. For best absorption - dissolve the turkasterone in gravy and serve with mashed potatoes.....smells like a fad

  30. Quote Originally Posted by emiliozapata View Post
    i happened into a gnc the other day and got two 180 capsule bottles of pinnacles anabolx for 15 dollars a bottle ,less the 20 % off for gold card so i couldnt pass it up, am planning on running 8 pills a day for 45 days, that will give me 40 mgs of turk and 40 of ponasterone, i will probably log it if there is interest, will be starting on the 15th of december
    Anything to report after nearly half a decade emiliozapata?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Smith View Post
    I'v forked out big time for some Turkesterone 20% extract and some Tongkat Ali 1:200 strength am going to run them both hard over the coming months with a perfect diet and no drinking.... i'll let you know how it goes!
    I guess 20 and 40% was an impressive extract lo these many years ago. Sadly we have come to learn now that 40% is not possible or even efficacious, and is only purported to be real by a Chinese supplier.

    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    I have about 20 grams of the 20%, and been looking for the perfect way to incorporate it.

    Definitely interested in following along.

    Hope you are capping the Long Jack...100:1 is bad enough. Never even heard of the 200:1.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mixelflick View Post
    Turk (or any ecdy for that matter) is an adaptogen. As such, its use needs to be carefully positioned subsequent to a very specific and unique environmental stress. Otherwise, there is no stress to adapt to. This is THE variable that accounts for the conflicting reviews seen in virtually every ecdy thread. Clearly, there is something going on. Folks just need to respect the fact that this compound needs to be used in the proper context.
    So you're ruling out all of it's other anabolic potentiating properties that don't revolve around or are reliant upon it's adaptogenic power?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Smith View Post
    ****, sorry it's almost a year since I'v been on AM, the Turkesterone,,, powerful stuff I was bombing 1.6 gram of the 20% turk every day for 12 weeks along with 1.2 gram tongkat ali,

    After about 8 weeks was noticing steady gains but by the 10th week skin was feeling tight around the shoulders, a fresh stretch mark appeared by the 12th week but not too bad.


    Doing the following this year for another 12 week....

    40% Turk @ 1 gram / day (12 weeks)
    1:200 Tongkat @ 2 gram / day (12 weeks)
    20-Hydroxyecdysone at 2.5 / day (then up to 3.5 gram/ day for the last 6 weeks).


    I'll try remember i've posted this time, Although its an old thread, if any one cares for an update let me know!
    I care

    What's wrong with stretch marks? They are indicative of expeditious growth. I have only ever experienced stretch marks during Tren/Test/Dbol cycles in the past, so that's quite a feat if it wasn't merely adipose tissue accrual.

    I am curious if anyone has ever cycled the TRUE TURK from Tonvara? It is a very potent yield, and fabled to be 20x stronger than 99% Ecdysterone, aka EcdyMorph, although I have yet to see relevant data supporting that claim anywhere.
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