The Cissus Powder is back jack!
No, USPLabs is out and probably will be for a while...Is this the USP stuff???
Is the source just as good as USPLabs? I felt very comfortable trusting that source for raws.No, USPLabs is out and probably will be for a while...
Yes, this is from a very reputable sourceIs the source just as good as USPLabs? I felt very comfortable trusting that source for raws.
I would assume this is recommended for maximal absorption. However, taking it with or close to a meal will not waste the dose, so you should be good.How important is it to take on an empty stomach? I sometimes don’t have time or take it right before/after a meal. In reality, to get a true empty stomach absorption you would need to take it at least 20min before you eat. Was this recommendation just to increase absorption or is it something else? Am I wasting a dose by taking it with vitamins after a meal? Maybe USPLabs can chime in...
I believe you, I've heard so many amazing success stories about Cissus. There's a reason why this sells so well...BECAUSE IT WORKS!In a related note, I have an AC joint (shoulder/collar bone) injury. I have to watch certain angles and things when doing chest/shoulder workouts. If I tweak it too much I will feel it within a day but it quickly goes away. It's a mild nagging thing and its easy to work around. Anyway, since I have been taking bulk cissus (1/2 tsp 2xday) the AC pain is completely gone. I have even tested certain exercises that normally make my shoulder hurt the next day. To my surprise, I have had no shoulder pain at all. I didnt expect this much from cissus. I notice that my elbows dont hurt as much but I figured that would be the extent of it. I cant really attribute the AC alleviation to any other cause. Not to sound like a promotional ad, but I wouldnt have believed this if someone else wrote it. I did experience it though.
someone on M&M posted a link to the full pdf. Unfortunately the formula is cissus, GTE and a few other things. A study on cissus alone would have been more useful as their results are questionable, at least their interpretation.Good stuff. TSC just posted this abstract in the Synergy muscle forum:
The use of a Cissus quadrangularis formulation in the management of weight loss and metabolic syndrome.
* Oben J,
* Kuate D,
* Agbor G,
* Momo C,
* Talla X.
ABSTRACT: Aim: Once considered a problem of developed countries, obesity and obesity-related complications (such as metabolic syndrome) are rapidly spreading around the globe. The purpose of the present study was to investigate the use of a Cissus quadrangularis formulation in the management of metabolic syndrome, particularly weight loss and central obesity. METHODS: The study was a randomized, double-blind, placebo-controlled design involving 123 overweight and obese persons (47.2% male; 52.8% female; ages 19 to 50). The 92 obese (BMI >30) participants were randomized into three groups---placebo, formulation/no diet, and formulation/diet (2100 to 2200 calories/day). The 31 overweight participants (BMI = 25 to 29) formed a fourth (no diet) treatment group. All participants received two daily doses of the formulation or placebo and remained on a normal or calorie-controlled diet for 8 weeks. RESULTS: At the end of the trial period, statistically significant net reductions in weight and central obesity, as well as in fasting blood glucose, total cholesterol, LDL-cholesterol, triglycerides, and C-reactive protein were observed in participants who received the formulation, regardless of diet. CONCLUSION: Cissus quadrangularis formulation appears to be useful in the management of weight loss and metabolic syndrome.
PMID: 16948861 [PubMed - as supplied by publisher]
LOL, this didn't inspire confidence:
Institute of Medical Research & Medicinal Plant studies, Yaounde, Cameroon
No problem. Forgot to mention that I usually only take one serving of about 1.5 grams on my off days and still having excellent effectiveness. Not sure if you were looking for joint health and/or cortisol supression or what but its a starting point.Thanks for the feedback! You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to warnerve again.
Put it this way...it is way stronger than a 5% or 6% extract...waiting on price.however i can't wait to see what dsade found.
dsade, did you see that article that trouble linked over at m&m? it listed out about 6~7 of the extracts found in cissus. kinda cool i guess that resveratrol is in it... sooo, can you drop any hints on what you got???Put it this way...it is way stronger than a 5% or 6% extract...waiting on price.
lol..check the post right before this one. Let me go check trouble's post.dsade, did you see that article that trouble linked over at m&m? it listed out about 6~7 of the extracts found in cissus. kinda cool i guess that resveratrol is in it... sooo, can you drop any hints on what you got???
i know, i just wasn't sure if we where gettin somethin with a few of the extract significantly stronger(ala symmetry x) or just a better extract(ala the 10% keto cissus that usp has been sellin overseas)... i just get curious sometimes.lol..check the post right before this one. Let me go check trouble's post.
what is the link>dsade, did you see that article that trouble linked over at m&m? it listed out about 6~7 of the extracts found in cissus. kinda cool i guess that resveratrol is in it... sooo, can you drop any hints on what you got???
Kaempferolwhat is the link>
if that paper is correct, then yup.Reservatrol is the powerful anti-oxidant from red wine????
Correctthanks. thats the same as usp cissus rx right? Im just trying to figure out dosing.
If I recall NP went through USPLabs for their bulk Cissus, right? I was under the impression that's why USP has been willing to work with NP for other bulk powders in the future, right?Correct
I'll be waiting for this one!!We'll have NP brand capsules, as well as a stacked deal for Caps/Scale/Cap-m-quick soon.
This is great to hear. I have had all of that stuff in my cart since last week (minus NP brand stuff though).:thumbsup:We'll have NP brand capsules, as well as a stacked deal for Caps/Scale/Cap-m-quick soon.
that would have been good for me a month ago, but thanks for adding that to the selection! Im sure alot of people will pick that up and your bulk powder line should be getting alot of well deserved attention. Keep it up NP!We'll have NP brand capsules, as well as a stacked deal for Caps/Scale/Cap-m-quick soon.
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