if this looks like over kill it probably is, ok here goes/toremifene,alphadrive, retain, powerful/cissus,anagen, novadex, restore, vigor, livaid, gnc megaman, sawpalmetto. not going to go full doses on retain or nolvadex, as would be redundant. btw vigor is great, i dont alwats eat right, feel healthier taking it. update on restore after 1 week yes it works!!!!!!!