Goodbye FUZU...Hello FUZE

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  1. Goodbye FUZU...Hello FUZE


    New PrimaForce FUZE now in stock...$18.99

    The FUZU alternative!


  2. Are those the same ingredients and quality of FUZU?
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  3. I believe so, but I'm having to rely strictly on my memory of the FUZU profile...wish I had a bottle in front of me to do an actual comparison.

  4. Man I loved Fuzu.

  5. Taken from 1fast..........

    Amount Per Capsule
    Furostanol Complex #1: 150mg
    (From Tribulus Terrestris Aerial Extract)
    Furostanol Complex #2: 150mg
    (From Fenugreek Seed Extract)
    Furostanol Complex #3: 150mg
    (From Dioscorea Deltoidea Root Extract)
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  6. FUZU
    Amount Per Capsule
    Furostanol Complex #1: 150mg
    (From Tribulus Terrestris Aerial Extract)
    Furostanol Complex #2: 150mg
    (From Fenugreek Seed Extract)
    Furostanol Complex #3: 150mg
    (From Dioscorea Deltoidea Root Extract)

    FUZE
    Serving Size: 1 Capsule
    Servings Per Container: 90
    Amount Per Serving
    Tribulus Terrestris Extract
    (45% Furostanolic Saponins) 175 MG‪
    Fenugreek Extract
    (85% Furostanolic Saponins) 150 MG‪
    Dioscorea Deltioda Extract
    (65% Furostanolic Saponins) 150 MG‪

    Almost an identical match. The Furostanolic complex from Trib is actually a little higher in the FUZE and is still cheaper than the FUZU

  7. Looks good....Primaforce is building it's line day by day....

  8. fuzu's numbers are the actual saponin extracts..so its a little stronger..damn stryder looks like ur about to get all my business

  9. I just ordered some and plan on running it this coming PCT. If all goes according to plan my PCT protocol will bring in a new era of how we go about Post cycle recovery and keeping atleast 90% of your gains.
  10. ItriedtoripoffBobosonowIamgonehaveaniceday
    ItriedtoripoffBobosonowIamgonehaveaniceday's Avatar

    Please enlighten us to your PCT methods JMINIS!

  11. just ordered fuze..was gonna order some more tz3 but got too much nolva and rebound xt..damn theres a lot of pct products..very nice

  12. I guess the % extract will depend on how effective fuzE is in relation to fuzu.

  13. Quote Originally Posted by wojo
    fuzu's numbers are the actual saponin extracts..so its a little stronger..damn stryder looks like ur about to get all my business
    Yeah I noticed that, I always thought that FUZU's listed mgs measured the "complex" which is the combined sum of the saponins and the whole herb, but if the listed mgs is the actual standardized saponin content, than it is stronger...

    Oh, and by the way...thanks for the business

  14. Quote Originally Posted by MaNiaK1027
    Please enlighten us to your PCT methods JMINIS!
    LOL not yet I have to see how everything goes first. I'm aiming high for the 90% mark Hell the last two short cycles I ran I kept 100% of my gains, no joke, no bs. Last cycle I actually gained 3lbs PCT with little change in bf%.

    This coming PCT I will have actually spent a lot more money on PCT then on the actual cycle itself.

  15. jminis has mastered the art of post cycle therapy

  16. With SD my PCT is more expencive then the cycle (but then again, It really isn't just pct...)
  17. ItriedtoripoffBobosonowIamgonehaveaniceday
    ItriedtoripoffBobosonowIamgonehaveaniceday's Avatar

    No prob bro....just make sure to make a thread about your new PCT techniques when you are ready to share....or just PM me....LOL!

  18. Quote Originally Posted by size
    I guess the % extract will depend on how effective fuzE is in relation to fuzu.
    Yes, exactly!. Do I not understand this correctly?. When comparing tribulis products, I see vitrix is 80% and fuze is 45%. Maybe I don't understand exactly what the percentage means. However, if it means the fuze is only slightly more than half the strength of vitrix than its really not worth it because you will have to mega dose the fuze to get the same effects as taking the recommended dosage of vitrix!.

  19. Quote Originally Posted by stryder
    Yeah I noticed that, I always thought that FUZU's listed mgs measured the "complex" which is the combined sum of the saponins and the whole herb, but if the listed mgs is the actual standardized saponin content, than it is stronger...

    Oh, and by the way...thanks for the business

    this was told to me by derek on syntrax's old forum when i asked about fuzu..he also said the orig fuzu was higher then most trib sup in proto saponins too..but hey if fuze works the way we all want it to who gives a chit..nice to have it available..i still feel tho that tz3 is superior all around product but i wanted the fuze to run with my nolva at the end of this small superdrol cyce im doing

  20. Quote Originally Posted by stryder
    jminis has mastered the art of post cycle therapy
    Not yet but i'm getting there

    MaNiaK I'll make sure to post my PCT for ya. Patience grasshoppa.

  21. In that case, the FUZU is almost twice as strong

    Interested to hear the feedback from those who have used FUZU in the past to make a comparative analysis.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone
    Yes, exactly!. Do I not understand this correctly?. When comparing tribulis products, I see vitrix is 80% and fuze is 45%. Maybe I don't understand exactly what the percentage means. However, if it means the fuze is only slightly more than half the strength of vitrix than its really not worth it because you will have to mega dose the fuze to get the same effects as taking the recommended dosage of vitrix!.
    Actually the FUZE has a higher total saponin content than the Vitrix. If the Vitrix total saponin content is soley derived from the Tribulus, than that is 800 mg of saponins from 6 pills, or 133.33 mg/pill. The FUZE would be a total saponin content of 303.75/pill.

  23. Does anyone know why Syntrax stopped making Fuzu?

  24. I was told that they had a hard time finding the high grade raw materials to continue manufacturing the product. I guess that makes sense if theirs had 450 mg of saponins per pill!

  25. j-rod would prob know the whole story here..someone should ask him for all iknow derek could have been Bsing..but damn that was one strong pill lol

  26. Quote Originally Posted by stryder
    Actually the FUZE has a higher total saponin content than the Vitrix. If the Vitrix total saponin content is soley derived from the Tribulus, than that is 800 mg of saponins from 6 pills, or 133.33 mg/pill. The FUZE would be a total saponin content of 303.75/pill.
    I guess I am confused. I read david tolsens article on bulknutrition.com and it doesn't really explain about saponins. Anyway from what I have read on message boards and other articles tribulis seems to have a reputation for being basically a worthless product. There is no evidence that it actually increases testosterone levels. Also I think primaforce is poor quality. Primaforce and Scivation are the same and primaforce is supose to be a cheaper alternative for poor folks like myself. I do like the fact the they have cheaper products but they shouldn't make them cheaper in quality. When I go shopping I usually buy the store brands for certain items, and most of them these items are exactly the same thing with exactly the same quality. What primaforce seems to be doing is saying to themselves, "well since this is for the "cheaper alternative" we will use less quality control and inferior product ingredients, "it doesn't matter because its cheaper". Now if they think that thats gonna make people buy there more expensive Scivation brand products they got another thing coming. Just upsets me because for those of us without much money its almost like a trap...Understand what I'm trying to say?

  27. The content % issue needs to be addressed.
    Last edited by size; 02-24-2005 at 07:52 PM.

  28. Quote Originally Posted by T-Bone
    I guess I am confused. I read david tolsens article on bulknutrition.com and it doesn't really explain about saponins. Anyway from what I have read on message boards and other articles tribulis seems to have a reputation for being basically a worthless product. There is no evidence that it actually increases testosterone levels. Also I think primaforce is poor quality. Primaforce and Scivation are the same and primaforce is supose to be a cheaper alternative for poor folks like myself. I do like the fact the they have cheaper products but they shouldn't make them cheaper in quality. When I go shopping I usually buy the store brands for certain items, and most of them these items are exactly the same thing with exactly the same quality. What primaforce seems to be doing is saying to themselves, "well since this is for the "cheaper alternative" we will use less quality control and inferior product ingredients, "it doesn't matter because its cheaper". Now if they think that thats gonna make people buy there more expensive Scivation brand products they got another thing coming. Just upsets me because for those of us without much money its almost like a trap...Understand what I'm trying to say?
    Sir,

    I understand what you are saying but would like to clear this up. Scivation and Primaforce both use the highest quality ingredients. Unfortunately from a business standpoint, a company cannot be everything to everyone.

    For example, I put out a great priced, high grade creatine under Primaforce. It is a single ingredient product that people want with quality they can trust. Hence the "Supplements you need, Quality you can trust" tagline.

    Scivation means Exceptional Supplements, Superior Performance." It takes a lot of time and resources to come out with these unique, cutting-edge compounds.

    While I am president of both companies, the mainstream retail consumer would hesitate to buy a cutting-edge product from a staple company. I still theorize that Optimum's Adenergy would have sold much better as it's own brand. Look at NO2--it would have probably flopped if released by Optimum. Why? The consumer sees Optimum as a commodity protein brand.

    I stand behind both lines and am one of the only people I know who puts their business card with my cell phone on it with every sample of Neurostim and Substance WPI I mail out. If anyone ever needs to address something or just wants to talk, I am always available.

    People raved about FUZU and I had the opportunity to put out a similar, high- grade product. While some may debate the efficacy of Tribulus, I stand behind the fact that you are getting what you paid for.


    Thanks!
    Marc Lobliner

  29. I have only tried Neurostim and Substance WPI, and I think both products kick some major ass. Substance is like my treat for the day. It is like candy. Neurostim has gotten me through some grueling, carb-depleted workouts that I probably wouldn't have completed otherwise. I have heard great things about Lean Green (or whatever its called), but I haven't had a chance to pick some up yet. I wish I could afford Extend, but instead I choke down my own bulk nastiness knockoff.

    My experience has been consistent with the general buzz: these companies provide great supps.

  30. Quote Originally Posted by wojo
    j-rod would prob know the whole story here..someone should ask him for all iknow derek could have been Bsing..but damn that was one strong pill lol
    If there is no good substitute for FUZU we can always use your avatar. That pic is boosting my test levels right now. (Please don't change your avatar to a guy or an animal or something ).
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