- 12-20-2004, 01:55 PM
Got it today and I have to say the dissolving abilities are phenominal. I put 10 grams of a 4-AD like substance and the Penetrate in to a beaker and stirred and it dissolved with no problem. Shipping was very fast also. Even with Christmas backing all of the mail up. Great product and T/A guys.
- 12-21-2004, 08:52 AM
- 12-21-2004, 09:52 AM
Waiting for the bottles right. Hopefully it will be available for sale Monday.
The Penetrate is more of a liquid like the old Avant transdermal PH's...
12-28-2004, 10:46 PM
12-30-2004, 10:54 PM
If I buy in bulk, is there any possibility the penetrate could go bad if not used for say a yr+?
12-31-2004, 10:49 AM
The Penetrate should be fine for a couple years, it's what you would mix into the dermal that I would be concerned about.
12-31-2004, 01:19 PM
12-31-2004, 03:32 PM
01-02-2005, 05:52 PM
alright I searched and could not find it although I know I've read it. how much comes out with each squirt?
01-02-2005, 06:11 PM
01-06-2005, 02:29 AM
It is 2 ml per pump which would give you about 120 pumps per bottle. I just got some new bottles and have to re-evaluate the measurements and make sure it is still the same. The listed measurements is for the clear bottles, but I'll check the new blue bottles and see.
01-06-2005, 03:38 PM
Bro, I would look in to new pumps. I have lost half of my stuff to the pump leaking. I am kind of upset about this.
01-06-2005, 04:05 PM
01-06-2005, 04:30 PM
01-06-2005, 05:39 PM
01-06-2005, 09:16 PM
01-06-2005, 09:18 PM
01-07-2005, 12:27 AM
Where is it? Call me stupid but Ive been looking and looking. Even tried the quick find. Nothing.Originally Posted by stryder
01-07-2005, 03:30 AM
I think that it sold out while Stryder was gone, but knowing the way that he works, it should be up again soon. I need some too.Originally Posted by V Player
01-07-2005, 03:43 AM
01-07-2005, 06:25 AM
01-07-2005, 07:05 AM
01-07-2005, 07:13 AM
Dangit! Id rather have this than the T-gel but Im fast approaching my next cycle starting date. Decisions, decisions....
01-07-2005, 05:14 PM
01-07-2005, 05:42 PM
I notice that the Penetrate solution I just received dries almost instantly. Other transdermal solutions I've used seem to be a bit more oily, so they take longer to dry. I'm concerned that Penetrate is drying so fast that it is not actually "penetrating." Anyone else notice this, or do I have a bottle of defective solution?
Also, the blue bottle pump leaks very badly. I'm hoping the company will send me out some replacement pumps.
01-07-2005, 06:00 PM
Thank you. I will push up my starting date to be able to accomodate it.Originally Posted by stryder
And on that note......is the fact that it dries so rapidly not such a good thing?
01-07-2005, 07:14 PM
I'll test the pumps and send you out replacements. How many do you need?Originally Posted by Josey Wales
01-07-2005, 09:47 PM
Three pumps. Let me know if you didn't get my PM.Originally Posted by stryder
Also, can you tell whether the quick drying aspect of the solution I have is a problem?
01-07-2005, 10:22 PM
01-07-2005, 11:48 PM
01-08-2005, 12:28 AM
01-08-2005, 10:52 AM
Don't get me wrong, there are some real benefits to having Penetrate dry quickly (e.g., dressing quicker). I'm just concerned that the PH is evaporating with the solution or that it dries and flakes off the skin because there are no oils to hold it on the skin for any length of time. For now, I put 4Derm right over the top of it (oilier solution) in the hopes that it holds the Penetrate-delivered PH on the skin too. But I'd rather not do that long term.Originally Posted by wastedwhiteboy2
Also, anyone know how many pumps the new blue bottles hold? I understand that the old ones held 120. No idea about the blue ones. Without knowing exactly how many pumps, I can't tell how mgs I'm delivering.
01-08-2005, 11:34 AM
01-08-2005, 12:33 PM
01-09-2005, 12:43 AM
[QUOTE=Josey Wales]I notice that the Penetrate solution I just received dries almost instantly. Other transdermal solutions I've used seem to be a bit more oily, so they take longer to dry. I'm concerned that Penetrate is drying so fast that it is not actually "penetrating." Anyone else notice this, or do I have a bottle of defective solution? [QUOTE]
Bump. Stryder? Anybody else have an answer to this?
01-10-2005, 02:07 PM
Here is the response from my manufacturer for the drying concern of the Penetrate.
"once we took out the carbomer it tends to dry quicker than the older versions, no
affect on utilization though, I see it as a bonus."
01-29-2005, 03:09 AM
I might be beating a dead horse with this question, but is this the same formula as Customs....? I use Matt's and this stuff seems to have the exact same properties? no big deal , just an observationOriginally Posted by stryder
01-29-2005, 11:46 AM
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