My Penetrate Crashed
- 12-06-2004, 11:00 PM
My Penetrate Crashed
Well today my order came 10g 1-test 10g 4ad and one bottle of penetrate.
I split it into 2 four ounce containers. The 1-test went in fine. I then tried to make
the 4ad I got 5g in fine then when i tried to get the 2nd 5 in and it crashed. I tried heating it
up a couple of times no good. Then I got a stupid idea and heated both containers up and
mixed them well that did no good.
So how can I recover my bottle. What could I add to fix it? Or should I order another bottle
to mix in, if that would help. If I cannot fix it I will still try to use anyways.
- 12-06-2004, 11:15 PM
add dmso if you have it... if not isopropyl myristrate or even isoprop alchohol would work
- 12-06-2004, 11:39 PM
It says it holds 15g of powder in the first place... you shouldn't have tried to cram 20 in there lol
12-07-2004, 12:41 AM
From my experience, 4-AD is a real pain to dissolve. I've done searches here and found a post from Chemo stating to use marbles or bearings. Simply put a few into the container and shake well. Then strain the marbles out or use a magnet and work the bearings out. The agitation from the marbles and the shaking breaks up and mixes the powder better...from what I hear.
Also, I've read some would leave it alone and the next day it would dissolve...go figure
12-07-2004, 12:46 AM
Ah, one of the many uses of a magnetic stirring hotplate
12-07-2004, 12:58 AM
Thought about that i need to swipe one out of class w/ a flask or beaker. Dont think UofH would care. :?
12-07-2004, 12:36 PM
- 5'9" 200 lbs.
- Join Date
- Oct 2002
I really think 15 g is max unless you have a plate with a mixer. Just pouring the powder in a bottle and shaking, 4/ad is a pain. 1-test is better to mix.
12-07-2004, 12:46 PM
Ain't that the truth!Originally Posted by dg806
12-07-2004, 01:22 PM
I'm almost tempted to buy some 4ad powder to see what I can do with it. 4ad is beating you guys up LOLOriginally Posted by dg806
Donk how did you heat it up?
12-07-2004, 01:27 PM
I'll be mixing up some 4ad in some penetrate in a couple of weeks, but I think I'll be doing 15g into 8oz. I'll post if I have any problems with that. Are you just having a little fallout gathering at the bottom? Or is it a major fallout?
12-07-2004, 01:38 PM
dd, make sure you put in small amounts of 4-AD at a time...it definetly takes patience when homebrewing 4-AD trans.
Also from doing some reading here, the proper mixing is what dissolves the powder more so than the heat--suprised to read that--so break out the marbles.
One thing I would also suggest doing is maybe taking the powder and chopping it up real fine before cooking it up. I noticed the 1-Test powder is very fine and fluffy whereas the 4-AD is a little harder and grainier.
12-07-2004, 01:50 PM
I'll use all of those tips and report back when I mix it. My last time I used 2 bottles of t-gel and measured out 10g of 4ad (same batch) for each. One mixed very easily and was very smooth. The other (again same batch of powder & mixed at the same time) never did get all the way dissolved. It stayed a little gritty. I couldn't get it to dissolve properly so I just applied a little extra when using that batch to make up for the powder that I was missing out on. Since I'm not going over 15g/8oz, I hope it all goes smooth. Thanks.
12-07-2004, 01:53 PM
Let us know the outcome...
12-07-2004, 01:53 PM
any word on if the Penetrate abrorbs well like tgel or the dermabolics carrier?
12-08-2004, 12:01 AM
The 4ad has a lot of fallout. I boiled water took off heat put jar in let sit for 5min. added 5grams 4ad scooped it out a little at a time. Put lid back on jar got the water boiling again. took off heat let sit 5 min. added rest. This is my 1st time useing or making transdermal. I am gonna add some dmso to it and the ball bearings to break up the clumps.
Anyways I already started using it. I will just have to redo my calculations when I add the dmso. I shake the hell out of it draw out 4ml with a oral syringe and appy. It goes good I see little chunks floating the syringe I smear it and it dries fast with no residue though an hour later I have itched my arm then rubbed my eye and it will burn like hell.
12-08-2004, 07:14 AM
Yeah, it's best to apply it to an area that you will have very little contact with since it does stay on the applied area for up to a couple days; maybe apply it on the tops of your feet or on your hamstrings, etc...Originally Posted by donk
12-08-2004, 10:28 AM
Sounds good, my bold base was real gritty in the Tgel and it still worked just fine. And yes watch the eyes. LOLOriginally Posted by donk
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