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Why is there no p.p. Products

Jasen

Jasen

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???? Id love done oral sustain
 
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This stuff needs to be cheaper by the way. If you have a girlfriend, I hear it's great for sex, but for a single guy trying to pump up, Id rather spend my 40$ on a few bulk powders.
 
You're paying for innovation and quality with PP products. For what you're getting, the price is reasonable in my opinion, but not cheap by any means. I know we had placed a large order with PP recently and it was expected to arrive a few days ago. I know they've been trying to clear out stock to make way for a new product line, but we should still see their stuff in stock. I'll get an answer by the end of the business day tomorrow.
Thank you for your patience,
Steve
 
Still all pp products r soldout.....
 
Wtf every one said they r equal.... Can u pls further elaborate y oral sucks
 
Jasen said:
Wtf every one said they r equal.... Can u pls further elaborate y oral sucks
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Its not that it sucks, some people just react better to most dermals.. I prefer the oral because its easy and convenient.
 
I might still go with oral since it give 50 servings while the spray only 19
 
JCunningham said:
I will still disagree with the oral v transdermal debate..

Jasen, just pm patrick arnold and get your answer.
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I wasnt trying to go against what you said about oral versus TD if thats how i came off because i agree.. Just sometimes people need an oral version since its more convenient, easier, or they have children or wives n what not, nawwmmeaann.
 
What in curios about if why is the spray same price half serving....
 
3clipseGT said:
I wasnt trying to go against what you said about oral versus TD if thats how i came off because i agree.. Just sometimes people need an oral version since its more convenient, easier, or they have children or wives n what not, nawwmmeaann.
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this is true^^^^^^^^
 
3clipseGT said:
Use a 5 on 2 off dosing scheme and this will make the bottle last longer.
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Still both bottle recommend this, I just think it sucks that it is half dose sAme price
 
Jasen said:
Still both bottle recommend this, I just think it sucks that it is half dose sAme price
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With the oral though you dont have to worry about applying to the same area.. Not trying to persuade you to buy one over the other, i go with the Oral myself, just trying to kick back some info your way brother.
 
Yah if I decide to do it with tcf ill probably go oral too just cuz its more than twice amount same price. So its been wks, y is nutra still not carryin it
 
Jasen, they both last the same amount of time..
You take 2 servings a day and that lasts you 25 days.
Same as the transdermal version..

Also, even if a female or child were to contact the sustain alpha, there would be no negative effect towards them, physically or hormonally..
 
JCunningham said:
Jasen, they both last the same amount of time..
You take 2 servings a day and that lasts you 25 days.
Same as the transdermal version..

Also, even if a female or child were to contact the sustain alpha, there would be no negative effect towards them, physically or hormonally..
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I know i was speaking in a general term as far as Orals vs transdermals, and some people although wouldnt hurt them, still dont want there wife or kid getting into contact with it..

But with Sustain Alpha i think its really a conveniance/easy alternative. Id rather pop mls into my mouth, then rub lotion on.. But to each there own.
 
3clipseGT said:
I know i was speaking in a general term as far as Orals vs transdermals, and some people although wouldnt hurt them, still dont want there wife or kid getting into contact with it..

But with Sustain Alpha i think its really a conveniance/easy alternative. Id rather pop mls into my mouth, then rub lotion on.. But to each there own.
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I do understand where you are coming from..

If you have not used the transdermal version of SA, I really recommend you get you try it at least once my friend and you will know where I am coming from..
 
JCunningham said:
I do understand where you are coming from..

If you have not used the transdermal version of SA, I really recommend you get you try it at least once my friend and you will know where I am coming from..
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Oh i have, and its very effective for sure. Especially the "on the boys" application, just with my schedule oral allows for easier dosing.
 
Ummm, I need to place an order and I want to include some PP products..... pretty please. :D
 
Wait sprayin then on testicles?

when is nutra gettin these also I'm worried about tcf estrogen, how far does daa raise estrigen?
 
Jasen said:
Wait sprayin then on testicles?

when is nutra gettin these also I'm worried about tcf estrogen, how far does daa raise estrigen?
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DAA does not raise estro a lot, but it is a good idea to use a mild AI.

Yes, spray the sustain on your nads..
Best place according to Eric!
 
Is s.a. Enough someone said no.

How is it most effective when done on testicles
 
Jasen said:
Is s.a. Enough someone said no.

How is it most effective when done on testicles
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DAA is going to raise estrogen at an equal ratio that it raises testosterone. This is because testosterone converts to estrogen and the body won't simply let one rise (or fall) without the other doing the same. Same thing happens during a cycle, only in reverse. Testosterone drops down a lot, so does estrogen.

Sustain Alpha transdermal should be able to have greater absorption rates on areas on the body that have thin skin (such as the scrotum) and that is why it is effective there. That is why the recommended spots for applying are all on the shoulders/upper back where the skin is thinner (as opposed to the stomach, hands, feet, legs especially).

Sustain Alpha, dosed properly, should be enough to combat the estrogen increase from DAA. In my opinion, it's the prolactin you should worry about.
 
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F tcf there r prolactin probkems with it as well? I.never heard about that, thanks btw, but can u further explain the prolactin portion.

I kinda want to try the spray now loll

its ok to spray on scrotum every time? Or should someone rotate spots?
 
F tcf there r prolactin probkems with it as well? I.never heard about that, thanks btw, but can u further explain the prolactin portion.
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In the endocrine system, instead, D-Asp is involved in the regulation of hormone synthesis and release. For example, in the rat hypothalamus, it enhances gonadotropin-releasing hormone (GnRH) release and induces oxytocin and vasopressin mRNA synthesis. In the pituitary gland, it stimulates the secretion of the following hormones: prolactin (PRL), luteinizing hormone (LH), and growth hormone (GH) In the testes, it is present in Leydig cells and is involved in testosterone and progesterone release.

Try L-Dopa/Vitex/Whatever B vitamins help with prolactin. TCF-1 helped me recover after a longer (for me) cycle and it really got me going fast compared to other test boosters/supps I've used post cycle.

its ok to spray on scrotum every time? Or should someone rotate spots?
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Tomahawk does this all the time I'm pretty sure. I don't know if site rotation is necessary with sustain alpha, however if it is you'll be hard pressed to find areas in which to start putting it on the second day. 5 or 6 sprays covered my entire upper back, shoulders, triceps and a little upper chest. It won't be as effective put on the stomach and chest I think due to thicker skin.
 
So I can't just spray 5 shots on shoulder or testicles at once. How come I have not read anyone else concerned about prolactin while on tcf. Is it a very minor issue?
 
Jasen said:
So I can't just spray 5 shots on shoulder or testicles at once. How come I have not read anyone else concerned about prolactin while on tcf. Is it a very minor issue?
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Compared to the benefits, I don't think so. I had a very successful PCT using TCF-1. As long as you're controlling estrogen prolactin shouldn't be a concern.

The primary study used on the DAA findings states...

One study in male rats found that while D-aspartic acid increased testosterone and LH by 236% and 146%, respectively, it also increased prolactin levels by 152%.
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Ohhhh man I doubt alot of ppl knew this about daa. Hmm what did u use, vitex? Im thinkin of vitex and b vitamins. How much b6? 300? And vitex?
 
Jasen said:
Ohhhh man I doubt alot of ppl knew this about daa. Hmm what did u use, vitex? Im thinkin of vitex and b vitamins. How much b6? 300? And vitex?
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I didn't use anything but did get itchy as hell nips until the SERM started kicking in. Also, I think vitex is dosed at 1 gram a day and B6 300mg 2x a day.
 
Wow wtf jc pls explain what happened? What dose how long
 
JCunningham said:
Jasen, they both last the same amount of time..
You take 2 servings a day and that lasts you 25 days.
Same as the transdermal version..

Also, even if a female or child were to contact the sustain alpha, there would be no negative effect towards them, physically or hormonally..
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WHAT?

Don't go around spreading this nonsense. 7,8 Benzo an AI. I personally enjoy playing with my 19 month daughter and contact with that is out of the question. Same with Rez... why would you even test that theory with young children?

I get the same effects from both, and I have used both.
 
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