"YOU WANTED THE BEST, YOU'VE GOT THE BEST, REVERSITOL REGULATOR V2!!!
- 02-02-2010, 12:50 PM
"YOU WANTED THE BEST, YOU'VE GOT THE BEST, REVERSITOL REGULATOR V2!!!
Reverstiol V2: A New Generation of Hormonal Optimization
Reversitol has quickly set the standard in natural hormonal modulation. Athletes across the world supplement their diets with Reversitol V2 which may promote peak hormonal production for increased performance, muscle mass, and strength. Supplementing your diet with Reversitol may promote complete optimization of key anabolic and anti-catabolic hormones, while controlling hormones that can hinder your gains and reduce your bodies anabolic potential.
Supplementing with Reversitol V2 may promote your bodies ability to:
- Jack up Testosterone production for immediate gains in Size and Strength
- Modulate Estrogen for rock hard muscle fullness
- Maximize Joint health and libido while rapidly gaining lean body mass
- 02-02-2010, 02:11 PM
do they have any actual blood tests backing this? i need an ai that is proven to work! don't want studies on ingredients, i need to see actual blood test results.
- 02-02-2010, 02:16 PM
legal in australia?
do you have CAS numbers for the replacement of the 6-bromo, so i can confirm with tga :P
02-02-2010, 02:26 PM
can we get an ingredient panel?
02-02-2010, 02:54 PM
Serving Size: 1 capsule
Servings per Container: 84
S.E.R.M. Matrix: 200 mg **
7-methoxy-2-phenyl-4H-chromen-4-one, Ellagic Acid(95%)
Estrogen Modulation Matrix(EMM): 160 mg **
Indole-3-Carbinole, Long Jack(100:1), Trans Resveratrol
* Percent Daily Values are based on a 2000 calorie diet.
** Percent Daily Values not established.
02-03-2010, 09:36 PM
I think a lot of questions need to be answered by I-Force about TT-33 before we start buying anymore of their products.
If the claims of overdosed 3,5 and no 3,3 are true, this company is going down.
02-04-2010, 03:32 AM
Got really interested in this when I saw it because it seems like a natural approach. But once I found out that the main ingredient was actually a 7-methoxyflavone I wanted to find out first if anyone has any experience with it, specifically if it was a good run that was worth it?
I've read here and there that 7-methoxy is a hit or miss. It would be really awesome to run a natural AI that can deliver at least somewhat decent results. If not, I'll just stick to some I3C and DIM.
Formestane will forever be sooo tempting to try. With almost all of the reviews I read on it, I don't think I've read one where the user wasn't overall satisfied. But I just can't seem to grasp the hormonal route. It's just so tempting though!
02-04-2010, 03:34 AM
02-04-2010, 10:03 AM
The current accusation is that there is no 3,3 and I believe 2.5x the 3,5 that is on the label.
Supposedly what peaked suspicion was the price point of TT-33. Essentially the costs of raws of 3,3 should have made the finished product more expensive.
I-Force has yet to respond.
02-04-2010, 12:18 PM
While I cannot back up this matter with any actual proof or evidence, I can say that I personally know the owner and the other head personnel at IForce and can completely vouch that these guys are completely top notch. As I've personally sold this product to many customers, who have already reported phenomenal results with TT-33, I do believe that this product meets label claims and is of great quality.
Can we please get some feedback on the boards from anyone who has/is using TT-33?
02-04-2010, 12:30 PM
02-04-2010, 12:41 PM
02-04-2010, 12:44 PM
v1 > v2
I wanna see in vivo studies of that synthetic flavonoid...oral bioavailability for these are highly questionable. Good luck using this as your PCT.
...and yes, agreed that until the 3,3~3,5 issue gets resolved, stay off Iforce. At 2:1 ratio its supposed to be ok, but since their formula is now suspect, a larger 3,5 ratio can and will cause thyroid shutdown requiring thyroid PCT.
02-04-2010, 12:49 PM
02-04-2010, 01:30 PM
a higher 3,5 would be ok, since its supposed to be a 2:1 of 3,3 and 3,5, ive done 1:1 ratio with great success which is also supposed to be safe. dont know what the big deal is if there is 3,5 in anyways.
나는 2000년 10월 매들린 올브라이트 전 미 국무장관 매들린 사랑, 그 중 한 뜨거운 젠장!
02-04-2010, 01:37 PM
if a product is out with claims, they had to test it on humans right? or how would you know it really works? a pct is nothing to mess around with.
saying this is the "best" is pretty strong claims that should have valid blood tests on hand to back it up.
나는 2000년 10월 매들린 올브라이트 전 미 국무장관 매들린 사랑, 그 중 한 뜨거운 젠장!
02-04-2010, 02:27 PM
come on guys...we know an AI/ATD has good bioavailability and it works, bloodwork to prove it.
Take away everything else in reversitol v1 except the AI's and it will work...the rest is windowdressing. I never understood why anyone would pay for reversitol+testbooster for pct when they can just get a plain AI(6bromo or something like inhibit-e)+ ANY testbooster under the sun and get the same exact effect, except pay $15-20 less.
In V2, u lose the crucial AI's, you connect the dots..the synthetic flavonoid has a bioavailability of 0.61-13.2%. It'll work as a testbooster, but as a pct, i dunno...
02-04-2010, 02:31 PM
..when questioned, iforce claim legal reasons and have since disappeared. They also produced some suspicious looking coas for their raws...then went on to say how 3,5 is not so bad after all.
Kinda going the same route of the AX-SX debacle...saying how all everyone will be sorry once they shed light on the whole affair. So yeah, everyone is still waiting right now....
so to answer your question, no , there is no proof, no one has it, not even from iforce..
02-04-2010, 02:35 PM
the search is on for legitimate replacements, 6-bromo and atd are on their way out. i am merely asking for the test results they are basing their claims on. not the individual ingredients, but the actual product-surely they have this-right????
02-04-2010, 02:58 PM
02-04-2010, 03:03 PM
V2 has none that i know of. What claims are u talking about? I've seen graphs that they put out to claim its effects are stronger than form and arimidex..
what i'm trying to say is that they are trying to ride on their own coattails from reversitolv1...
02-04-2010, 03:12 PM
if they are basing their claims just on an individual ingredient, that is not good enough, imo. i want evidence of the actual product producing results to back up their claims.
02-04-2010, 07:30 PM
Coming from a competing bodybuilding site.
Gaspari made the claim in a roundabout way. They said no way could TT-33 sell for the price it was due to the cost of raws of 3,3, and claim when tested they found no 3,3 and much more 3,5.
Like mentioned above, this would cause Thyroidal shutdown, and is not ideal.
02-05-2010, 12:48 AM
I stopped taking the tt-33. The reps avoiding the issue and taking things to pm's really makes things fishy. If they do finally come out and prove themselves legit, I still won't support them. This little stunt of leaving the consumers hanging is unacceptable as we are supposed to keep taking a product based on faith...
02-05-2010, 03:40 AM
Jus checked the ingridents .. Rv1 looks so much better(if it has what it claims) .. Some1 told me that rv1 has sum ph/ds compound in it ??
02-05-2010, 04:12 PM
Hate to keep side tracking this thread but currently TT-33's label reads 3'3' at 100mcg and 3,5 at 50mcg making it a 2:1 (3,3:3,5 ratio).
Who or what can actually confirm that Gaspari tested a batch? What if they're just stirring up rumors because somehow iForce was able to get access to better prices for their raws? Just because it's Gaspari and just because they have a uncoupling product as well (which has gotten enormously good reviews) doesn't necessarily mean they should have the advantage.
I want to see proof as in legit documents, procedure, GC/MS, or something that can clearly show the allegations against iForce.
BTW, I'm not on anyone's side here, I'm just really PO'ed right now with this McCain BS and this stupid bill that he wants to pass. That on top of this is just going to let that old fck take advantage of the overall situation we have in this industry, very sad.
Oh and I'm just concerned because I did pick up TT-33 during the New Year's sale at the ridiculously awesome price they had and don't want to continue using it if it truely is overdosed with 3,5.
02-08-2010, 10:49 AM
02-08-2010, 09:29 PM
If I recall correctly, I think some Gaspari rep or someone that was unofficially with Gaspari told us that one serving (3 caps) of Mitotropin has a total of 150mcg of both 3'3' and 3'5' diiodo-l-thyronine; I can't remember if he stated how much of each though in the 150mcg amount.
Now TT-33 has that amount in just 1 cap, in which the label actually states how much of each. Before I placed my order I kept reading the label over like a million times so I wasn't trippin' lol and was sold on how many servings it provided. If iForce is legit on this then it is awesome that they were willing to provide us with that many servings with more than enough actives in just 1 serving. That alone made me want to get two bottles, ESPECIALLY at the introductory price during the sale! It pretty much was a win/win for both quality and quantity. I don't think anyone supp overall currently has this kind of value; but only if the label is what it claims to provide, in which I hope it does.
I was on TT-33 for approximately two weeks before I came across this thread and since then I haven't dosed it because I would really like someone to confirm this situation. From those two weeks, in conjuction with Eviscerate, C5/UC-VO2, ALCAR, Adrenalean and Ashwagandha I've had the best recomp effects ever. I added CEL's Suppress-C into the mix about a week and a half ago, applying not even a full pump on the inside of my legs and the results have been just flat out amazing. I really didn't want to get Suppress-C because I took sort of a self-vow to not touch any steroidal-type supps but I've already ran LX a while ago and although 7-OH and beta-androstenetriol aren't anabolic, I still view them on the hormonal side because of their steroidal structure. But after finding out that LX as a product is legal to use by a couple organizations for natural BBing competitions, I figured I could stand using a topical cortisol modulator. LX is probably the best fat-reducing supp I've used, TT-33 pretty much topping it, so I thought why not give Suppress-C a shot. Beta-androstenetriol is also incredible for immune support. I really try to stay as natural as I can because I know I can achieve the look I want without going drastically hormonal hence why cortisol modulators will be as far as I go in that route; they aren't anabolic and is legal to use in the one organization that I want to someday compete in, WNSO (FAME).
I really need to start a log to show how awesome the past month has been. I'm going to take a pic tonight, even though I've already been improving, to show the progress I'm making. I'm probably around 15-18% BF right now so obviously there is still plenty of room to show my progression.
I should state that my activity level isn't up to par yet just because I have been putting a lot of time into school but I know that my diet is what has been helping a lot. TT-33, I know has really been the x-factor in the awesome recomp effects I've gotten because there was a couple times where I downed a whole large Hot-N-Ready pepperoni pizza from Little Ceasar's and it barely effected me in terms of weight gain at all. Just goes to show you can stray a little here and there if you want cuz TT-33 acted sort of like a damage control. I truly hope TT-33 is what it is so I can get back on it and literally crush everything in sight. I have no doubt in my mind that once I get my workout routine up to par I will succeed in finally achieving a flat stomach for the first time in my life. Heck, with the abdominal routine that I plan on doing I am certain that I can get very decent cuts for the summer.
02-08-2010, 11:25 PM
For what its worth...... Gaspari never backed up their claim with ANY official documents and they are the ones that have sense backed down and owner banned (for the upteenth time).
Iforce has posted all the COAs and info they have.
Gaspari has a competing product.......
Not saying it may not be true but just seems odd and Iforce is taking the brunt of this attack when no proof has been shown, that I am aware of.
02-09-2010, 12:06 AM
02-09-2010, 12:07 AM
gasparis product being novadex-xt?
Getting big for dummies PART 2- http://anabolicminds.com/forum/old-school-hormone/233211-im-back-tren.html
02-09-2010, 12:21 AM
02-09-2010, 02:24 AM
02-09-2010, 06:55 AM
- 5'10" 200 lbs.
- Join Date
- Jul 2007
I have been using TT-33 for just under a week, as part of the fat demolition stack at NP. I have been pleased with how well the recomp is going, but bear in mind I also do a lot of cardio which is obviously aiding. I am not overly concerned based on any Gaspari claims. I think this is just an issue of one business trying to protect their own interests
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02-09-2010, 08:20 AM
how would you know if you had thyroid shutdown?
02-09-2010, 10:01 AM
^^ you really wouldn't without a blood test. You could also check like webmd and look at the symptoms of hypothyroidism
02-09-2010, 11:16 AM
02-09-2010, 11:43 AM
I will have to search it out on BB.com so bare with me haha but let me get them.
02-10-2010, 01:27 PM
I am having trouble searching it out, I haven't forgotten hahah
02-10-2010, 02:26 PM
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