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    Past Issues with Bulk Powders


    On another forum I stumbled across a thread discussing recent issues with Axis Labs' Furazadrol, and speculation their raws were tainted. Here is a post from said thread:

    "What are the chances that axis labs supplier is the same one which ****ed nutraplanet over?"

    This was laid out there like it was common knowledge, and no one else brought it up. I am unaware of any issues you guys (nutra) had with suppliers. Care to shed some light on this?

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    Hey Dragon,
    The only issue we've run into that I am aware of was one batch of Trione caps that turned out to contain yohimbine instead in place of the trione. They were only responsible for our Trione caps, and we no longer have any relations with them. The bulk trione powder (and all others) were unaffected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Hey Dragon,
    The only issue we've run into that I am aware of was one batch of Trione caps that turned out to contain yohimbine instead in place of the trione. They were only responsible for our Trione caps, and we no longer have any relations with them. The bulk trione powder (and all others) were unaffected.
    Cool, thanks for the quick reply Steve. While on the topic, I assume you test all the raws for the bulk and/or capped Nutra-brand powders and supps, correct?

    (Curious as a fairly big buyer of these and getting bigger).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon13 View Post
    Cool, thanks for the quick reply Steve. While on the topic, I assume you test all the raws for the bulk and/or capped Nutra-brand powders and supps, correct?

    (Curious as a fairly big buyer of these and getting bigger).
    We're working towards getting all our bulks 3rd party tested. This goes hand in hand with the GMP guidelines that were complying with. The new Black and Platinum series are all tested and GMP. For other bulks, we've done some testing and some CoAs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    We're working towards getting all our bulks 3rd party tested. This goes hand in hand with the GMP guidelines that were complying with. The new Black and Platinum serie woulds are all tested and GMP. For other bulks, we've done some testing and some CoAs.
    I'm in Australia and i know having CoAs with our packages, maybe on request, would really help speed our order processing procedure through customs.

    I order bulk powders on a regular basis and had issues with them in the past. Having CoAs would be really helpful explaining what they are.

    Believe me there are people out there who don't know what Creatine is and oddly enough they don't have access to the internet to do a search!!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by B5150 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Hey Dragon,
    The only issue we've run into that I am aware of was one batch of Trione caps that turned out to contain yohimbine instead in place of the trione. They were only responsible for our Trione caps, and we no longer have any relations with them. The bulk trione powder (and all others) were unaffected.
    Can I get the lot number on this? Also, what are the details - how much yohimbine is there per cap? And is there any trione in the caps at all?

    I have three unopened bottles of NP Trione and want to be careful.

    Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    We're working towards getting all our bulks 3rd party tested. This goes hand in hand with the GMP guidelines that were complying with. The new Black and Platinum series are all tested and GMP. For other bulks, we've done some testing and some CoAs.
    Then if I understand correctly, you are relying solely on the good faith of your suppliers? And there is no testing on the bulks other than this new platinum series, correct?

    That is pretty damn scary...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon13 View Post
    Then if I understand correctly, you are relying solely on the good faith of your suppliers? And there is no testing on the bulks other than this new platinum series, correct?

    That is pretty damn scary...
    Then you must be scared of the whole industry, or at least 95% of it. Tis' the reason why Nutra is going this route.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Lungz View Post
    Then you must be scared of the whole industry, or at least 95% of it. Tis' the reason why Nutra is going this route.
    My understanding is that most "reputable" companies at least test raws once in a while, if not every shipment. I think if we asked on the company forums on this board, most will say they at least spot test raws (I know Primordial does). As bulk powders are the raws, the fact that they have never been tested is indeed scary, especially as they are likely coming from China. My Divanex could be seaweed, for all I know, or contaminated with rat feces, or whatever.

    If most companies in fact do not ever test raws... Hopefully some other company reps can chime in. Very interested to hear what they have to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Hey Dragon,
    The only issue we've run into that I am aware of was one batch of Trione caps that turned out to contain yohimbine instead in place of the trione. They were only responsible for our Trione caps, and we no longer have any relations with them. The bulk trione powder (and all others) were unaffected.

    And the ATD caps too right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by munique View Post
    And the ATD caps too right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dragon13 View Post
    My understanding is that most "reputable" companies at least test raws once in a while, if not every shipment. I think if we asked on the company forums on this board, most will say they at least spot test raws (I know Primordial does). As bulk powders are the raws, the fact that they have never been tested is indeed scary, especially as they are likely coming from China. My Divanex could be seaweed, for all I know, or contaminated with rat feces, or whatever.

    If most companies in fact do not ever test raws... Hopefully some other company reps can chime in. Very interested to hear what they have to say.
    We do spot test raws on occassion. We actually just tested our coleus through one of the very best labs in the country, Chromadex.

    We usually reserve spot testing like this for the more expensive or exotic products.

    Still, we are employing spot heavy metal and purity testing on some of our more common raws after all of the scares lately from China.

    We take product safety extremely serious and Sam has a passion for quality control.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSurfer View Post
    Can I get the lot number on this? Also, what are the details - how much yohimbine is there per cap? And is there any trione in the caps at all?

    I have three unopened bottles of NP Trione and want to be careful.

    Thanks.
    Bump.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSurfer View Post
    Bump.
    What were the purchase dates on the bottles SS?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    What were the purchase dates on the bottles SS?
    The orders on NP site no longer show Trione, the items are empty so I don't know the order dates. However, all bottles have the same lot and expiration date: 20I407, 09/20/10.
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    Quote Originally Posted by custom View Post
    We do spot test raws on occassion. We actually just tested our coleus through one of the very best labs in the country, Chromadex.

    We usually reserve spot testing like this for the more expensive or exotic products.

    Still, we are employing spot heavy metal and purity testing on some of our more common raws after all of the scares lately from China.

    We take product safety extremely serious and Sam has a passion for quality control.
    That is comforting, at least. Thanks for the info.
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    Quote Originally Posted by silverSurfer View Post
    The orders on NP site no longer show Trione, the items are empty so I don't know the order dates. However, all bottles have the same lot and expiration date: 20I407, 09/20/10.
    bump - are my bottles of trione safe to consume?
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    U may wish to email NP's customer service directly

    Mine were bunk and they gave me a refund via NP dollars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wontdie View Post
    U may wish to email NP's customer service directly

    Mine were bunk and they gave me a refund via NP dollars.
    I had just PMed him not 10 minutes ago about him ; we should have this resolved soon.
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    so how much does it cost to have a certain powder tested?
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    Big bump. I loaded up on trione powder during the final run and am going to use some soon. Can anyone out there confirm that there are no stimulants in it? I had a bad batch of Nutra ATD and do not want a repeat experience. Yohimbe and I do not get along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fayd View Post
    Big bump. I loaded up on trione powder during the final run and am going to use some soon. Can anyone out there confirm that there are no stimulants in it? I had a bad batch of Nutra ATD and do not want a repeat experience. Yohimbe and I do not get along.
    What is the color of the powder?
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    the bulk powder is fine. It was the caps that had the issue.
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    Thank you much. As far as I know, the powder is pretty pure white. Does not appear contaminated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Dunn View Post
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    Is this information on your website?
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