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    any idea when mdrol, xtren will back in stock?

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    Once they are gone, I think thats it
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    Quote Originally Posted by hardknock View Post
    Oh, RPn, not actually but you're saying technically...

    I dunno. I think the new line of products from RPN are much more important than their PH product. I am seriously getting into the health/aging product line up way more now a days than the PH side of things.

    When you hit 35+, those areas become enormously more important.
    I agree, RPN has branched out enough that I think they should be ok...
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    Those of us living in Europe have close to zero chance to stock up on compounds like these.
    Or Australia.

    I thought ASS were legal in the UK.

    I'll be honest, no skin off my nose as I don't do PH'S.
    Better for me, now all the juicers will shrink hehe
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    Havoc can, and will be pulled (in all probability), but that will not stop a person like Matt. He will constantly push new and innovative products out. RPN isn't going any where but up!
    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I agree, RPN has branched out enough that I think they should be ok...
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    Its not the first time the government has stepped in and messed with things.. I remember the first ban.. Everyone was stocking up on M1t and 4ad etc.. Superdrol missed that ban and then all these years later we still have great hormones available to us.. I was sure the hormone days were over for the DS end, but you know tons of great products have came out since.. Whatever is banned someone will find a way to make it or something close that will do what you want..

    Remember if all else fails, you guys can just step on over to the black market side lol lol lol lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdelV View Post
    Or Australia.

    I thought ASS were legal in the UK.

    I'll be honest, no skin off my nose as I don't do PH'S.
    Better for me, now all the juicers will shrink hehe
    Yah after doing some mild PH's I decided to stay herbal.. I was tempted untill the herbal prodcuts started to get better. Now I don't see enough of a difference between PH's and herbals to justify putting myself through all that. I am making very nice progress without PH use and am bigger and better now than I have ever been by a very large margin.. again due to modern herbal supplementation. It's a personal choice ... one I'm glad I made. The products are only going to get better so I am optimistic about the future.
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    will 11oxo be leaving too??
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    Are you dumping your anti-e products as well?
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    I agree, RPN has branched out enough that I think they should be ok...
    Well its not that we have not branched out. Its that the money from Havoc allows us to buy raw materials to make the other products. We do not make enough profit off the others nor sell enough to make our bills..sad but true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    Well its not that we have not branched out. Its that the money from Havoc allows us to buy raw materials to make the other products. We do not make enough profit off the others nor sell enough to make our bills..sad but true.
    I guess you'll have to restructure your profit stategy and start making more off other products... you can do it, we'll understand why we have to pay more for certain products. You have to make a living... we appreciate what you do for us...
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    Quote Originally Posted by crader View Post
    Well its not that we have not branched out. Its that the money from Havoc allows us to buy raw materials to make the other products. We do not make enough profit off the others nor sell enough to make our bills..sad but true.
    Yes, but, as history has taught us, this can be diverted through different marketing strategies, shrinking the brand, tweak the particulars. In the beginning, it could land you in some serious depth, but, in the long run, it could be very beneficial.

    I can vouch for this one. My business that I ran successfully for over 9 yrs was throttled by new jack under cutters (price wise), and now, i have had to re-invent myself totally. I am in some serious depth NOW, but the future is very bright as i have had to rethink the way I do business and my earnings have began to show again.
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    I know that personally I use almost every RPN product except Havoc. Although I may have to buy some just to try it someday.
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    I am not familiar with RPN's product line but if it'll help them to survive, I will definately take a look.

    Edit: Sorry for the vaporlock, I do use RPN products. Flawless, Java Bar, LX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim623 View Post
    I am not familiar with RPN's product line but if it'll help them to survive, I will definately take a look.
    It's an innovative company that gives back to the community and supplies honesty and good products. I personally have witnessed some pretty remarkable things with Eviscerate and PLCAR..which they have supplied in bulk at NP.

    Eviscerate worked fairly well for me but when I gave it to my trainee what I saw on one weeks time was miraculous.

    My wife has Chronic Fatigue and early signs are that PLCAR may be the answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    It's an innovative company that gives back to the community and supplies honesty and good products. I personally have witnessed some pretty remarkable things with Eviscerate and PLCAR..which they have supplied in bulk at NP.

    Eviscerate worked fairly well for me but when I gave it to my trainee what I saw on one weeks time was miraculous.

    My wife has Chronic Fatigue and early signs are that PLCAR may be the answer.

    I still don't believe in topical fat loss products. Never used Havoc as I really don't like methylated hormones and their side effects. I've only tried Gut Health from RPN and its a good product. NoOxident, DCP,Alphaburn, and Propionyl-L-Carnitine are all products I want to try in the future though. Most of the other products they have are more for wives/girlfriends. Really though I would hate to see the company go. Another thing I like about RPN is they don't hide anything on their labels like other brands do with a "Proprietary" forumla.

    Don't go away yet, I still want to try those products. Just never got around to actually purchasing....
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    man id hate to see RPN go anywhere. The Phs went fast. Missed out on yet another deal. Damn work lol
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    Guys, alot of the well known substances are gone. We still have plenty of the below available:

    Finaflex Ripped

    LG's Trifecta Stack

    Finaflex 550-XD

    S-Roid

    E-Pol InSLINsified

    1-Androsterone

    1-T

    Nasty Mass InSLINsified

    Guys, last chance to get these products!!!!!! Once we are out, we are OUT.


    As for the Anti E products....we will stock what we can get in. When and if we don't stock something a thread will be put up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrBigPR View Post
    Guys, alot of the well known substances are gone. We still have plenty of the below available:

    Finaflex Ripped

    LG's Trifecta Stack

    Finaflex 550-XD

    S-Roid

    E-Pol InSLINsified

    1-Androsterone

    1-T

    Nasty Mass InSLINsified

    Guys, last chance to get these products!!!!!! Once we are out, we are OUT.


    As for the Anti E products....we will stock what we can get in. When and if we don't stock something a thread will be put up.
    Nutra's the only place that really even has our 1-T right now (we're sold out right now during the move to a new facility), so get you some at your favorite planet!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trauma1 View Post
    Nutra's the only place that really even has our 1-T right now (we're sold out right now during the move to a new facility), so get you some at your favorite planet!!
    Get it while you can! 1-T is the real deal!
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    Great time to stockpile!
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    Hey NP staff don't you think you might be jumping the gun? I mean it is obvious the FDA is cracking down one by one but it could be likely to take months and months or even years to ban all the popular compounds. Couldn't you just keep a small stock rotation so that you wouldn't lose out much if it got recalled? I think this could possibly cost you guys alot of potential turn over and profit if you aren't gonna stock any of the popular ones at all anymore. Then again you guys know alot more about the market then i do so maybe things are gonna happen sooner rather than later.
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    Just missed out, the few I wanted are out of stock
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    Quote Originally Posted by JarkoGrimwood View Post
    Just missed out, the few I wanted are out of stock
    What are u looking for? I am sure u can still find some somewhere.
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    We are not jumping the gun in the least. Without going in to too much detail, I can say that it is better to try and unload the product now than wait until it is completely illegal, which would mean that the product would have to be destroyed and NO ONE makes money or the consumer is left without a choice to buy (unless it's black market and the price would be raised 4x). Any more questions?
    Quote Originally Posted by Psylence View Post
    Hey NP staff don't you think you might be jumping the gun? I mean it is obvious the FDA is cracking down one by one but it could be likely to take months and months or even years to ban all the popular compounds. Couldn't you just keep a small stock rotation so that you wouldn't lose out much if it got recalled? I think this could possibly cost you guys alot of potential turn over and profit if you aren't gonna stock any of the popular ones at all anymore. Then again you guys know alot more about the market then i do so maybe things are gonna happen sooner rather than later.
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    blah....i was wanting to pick up a couple bottles of M-Drol for future usage...went to work and when I get home it's all sold out...

    just my luck, lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tomahawk88 View Post
    What are u looking for? I am sure u can still find some somewhere.
    I could find it somewhere else but not at these prices.
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    Ya I gave him a link to another Superdrol clone($20) he was already looking at but wasn't sure about the company.
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    Quote Originally Posted by brandoppsx View Post
    blah....i was wanting to pick up a couple bottles of M-Drol for future usage...went to work and when I get home it's all sold out...

    just my luck, lol
    NP seems to be taking the lead on unloading these PH's but there's still plenty of other sites out there selling them, but not at the same killer prices NP marked them down at!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Psylence View Post
    Hey NP staff don't you think you might be jumping the gun? I mean it is obvious the FDA is cracking down one by one but it could be likely to take months and months or even years to ban all the popular compounds. Couldn't you just keep a small stock rotation so that you wouldn't lose out much if it got recalled? I think this could possibly cost you guys alot of potential turn over and profit if you aren't gonna stock any of the popular ones at all anymore. Then again you guys know alot more about the market then i do so maybe things are gonna happen sooner rather than later.
    Apparently the tactic is different this time. Not only are manufacturing facilities and suppliers being threatened with actual prison time for assisting in hormone markets, but retailers are being "subtly threatened" as well. We lost 5 retailers this last week because of it.

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    if said ban doesn't happen in say one month, or three months, whenever its supposed to happen (or a realistic time frame), will nutra pick these products back up?

    i suspect they're just going after one company, much like they did with DS/AX and their original superdrol/pheraplex, which everyone but them can still make. even though the FDA knows its still out there, they don't seem to care. though obviously, this could swing the other way like M1T and its just gone...

    curious as to what you guys suspect will happen here, since you obviously know more about the FDA and how they target companies than the average citizen...


    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    Apparently the tactic is different this time. Not only are manufacturing facilities and suppliers being threatened with actual prison time for assisting in hormone markets, but retailers are being "subtly threatened" as well. We lost 5 retailers this last week because of it.

    I respect Nutraplanet's position completely.
    EDIT : eek. posted while i was typing my statement. so that's the plan?
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    Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    if said ban doesn't happen in say one month, or three months, whenever its supposed to happen (or a realistic time frame), will nutra pick these products back up?

    i suspect they're just going after one company, much like they did with DS/AX and their original superdrol/pheraplex, which everyone but them can still make. even though the FDA knows its still out there, they don't seem to care. though obviously, this could swing the other way like M1T and its just gone...

    curious as to what you guys suspect will happen here, since you obviously know more about the FDA and how they target companies than the average citizen...



    EDIT : eek. posted while i was typing my statement. so that's the plan?
    The outrage apparently temporarily BLOCKED support for the house food bill. I suggest that the time has come that we stand up for the principle behind our choices, rather than being specific about speaking out only about supplements and hormones.

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    You cannot cut the throat of business with one hand, and hold your other hand out palm up to be greased with taxes culled from....from...what? No business, no taxes, no taxes, no power. No country, no power. No power, well...
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    i've already received a generic reply from feinstein.

    Quote Originally Posted by feinstein

    Dear Mr. Yoganathan:



    Thank you for writing to share your concerns about legislation intended to improve food safety. Your correspondence is important to me and I welcome the opportunity to respond.



    As you know, recent outbreaks of food borne illnesses and concerns about the safety of imported food have prompted numerous legislative proposals to increase the safety of the U.S. food supply. While I am concerned about deficiencies in the U.S. food safety system, I believe that reforms must be well thought out to avoid unintended consequences.



    On June 17, 2009, Representative John D. Dingell (D-MI) introduced the "Food Safety Enhancement Act of 2009" (H.R. 2749) and on March 3, 2009, Senator **** Durbin (D-IL) introduced the "FDA Food Safety Modernization Act" (S. 510). Each of these bills would increase the Food and Drug Administration's regulatory powers over the national food supply and food providers. I am currently reviewing both pieces of legislation and will keep your thoughts and priorities in mind as the Senate considers the bills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    i've already received a generic reply from feinstein.
    This was all you had to post. Feinstein is one of the worst problems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dsade View Post
    This was all you had to post. Feinstein is one of the worst problems.
    yeah, she doesn't actually address my concerns about supplements, but randomly adds it into foods and stuff.

    i suspect this reversal of the FDA (actually perusing things with some form of competency) stems from obamas universal health care. IMO its hard to make this concept affordable with things on the market that can put people onto TRT...

    though i think they should have targeted alcohol and tobacco first, then deadly medication (opiates - oxycontin killed 1800+ people just in florida last year), then worked on supplements. supplements are the lesser evil, and i'll be damned if i can figure out why its being targeted first, unless the other 3 have massive lobbying power (which they do).... bleh. i'm really upset now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stryder View Post
    Due to the uncertainty of the PH market, I have made a personal decision to liquidate our remaining stock of PH products. These items are marked down to cost or below and is strictly on a first come, first served basis -- all sales are final --

    PH Liquidation SALE
    To make sure I understand:

    NP will *NOT* be restocking ANY of these.

    Correct? Not even drop-shipments?
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    Writing congressmen now. Does anyone else have mixed feelings about the FDA actually regulating like they should? A lot of shady, crappy companies that need to be taken care of.....and unfortunately many of them sell PH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chargerfball25 View Post
    Writing congressmen now. Does anyone else have mixed feelings about the FDA actually regulating like they should? A lot of shady, crappy companies that need to be taken care of.....and unfortunately many of them sell PH.
    Depends what you mean by shady, crappy companies.

    Label accuracy is already regulated by the FTC, with laws on the books.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suncloud View Post
    if said ban doesn't happen in say one month, or three months, whenever its supposed to happen (or a realistic time frame), will nutra pick these products back up?
    .....

    curious as to what you guys suspect will happen here, since you obviously know more about the FDA and how they target companies than the average citizen...
    I think NP is done for good.

    the problem is not the individual products becoming illegal and we have to eat the stock, but rather it is the very real risk of being one of the copanies caught in the cross hairs of any federal agency. Just the legal fees alone to deal with that would be well be into the six figure range.

    Then you do not have any capital to do business with and pretty much you die a very slow death. It is a process I know all too well.
  

  
 

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