MST's ULTRA Cordygen VO2!!!
07-05-2009 09:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ax1
01-05-2010 06:53 PM
I've just ordered some and was going to try it in place of my usual stims but what about adding some Geranamine to a serve of Cordygen-VO2 ULTRA?
Originally Posted by CTDeuce
I also use Citrulline Malate and Beta Alanine pre workout. Would Cordygen-VO2 ULTRA be a good alternative as this is basically what i'm looking for.
Citrulline Malate, Beta Alanine + stims for 6-8 weeks?
Cordygen-VO2 ULTRA for 6-8 weeks?
01-05-2010 10:29 PM
Cordy-V02 Ultra is my only choice for an alternative to stims. In fact I'm trying to lay off stims more and more by using C5 and Cordy-VO2, along with ginseng and ashwaghanda. No need to drop citrulline malate or beta-alanine, both are very good at prolonging endurance; couple them both with cordyceps and your ATP storage and usage will be through the roof. Add in EAAs with an emphasis on leucine and tyrosine (don't go too hard with tyrosine) and you'll feel more rejuvenated than ever before. You can also try and megadose some fish oil for omega-3s. Right now I'm taking in about 5-7g of fish oil a day, yielding about 1.75-2.45g of just omega-3s. I also take in a lot of olive oil and eat lots of flax meal as much as I can.
Originally Posted by Jag
Once you truly harness the power of oxygen with cordyceps, you'll almost never want to take any kind of stim ever again. Right now I'm pushing myself to only take a stim once a week or if I'm really struggling that day; whether it be at school, workouts, or just getting up and at it in the mornings. I do however drink green and black tea almost regularly because of their great chemistry and constituents. Although I'm not doing a good job at resisting because I couldn't help but to snag a BOGO of Levi Reloaded (never tried it, always hear/heard it's awesome, and its BOGO! c'mon). But that's a different story.
My suggestion bro is don't waste your time with geranamine if you're trying to recoup from stims or looking for an alternative. At the most, dose it once and only once a week if you really must, but to accurately gauge how well Cordy-VO2 Ultra I suggest you use that and no other hard stims with it. Citrulline malate and beta-alanine I don't consider stims at all, don't think anyone does. Beta-alanine is an amino acid, and I believe citrulline is as well that's bonded to malic acid. If you really want to try an honest and effective non-stim regimen that can not only help rejuvenate and replenish your body but also aid your workouts give this a try.
Green Tea - try and drink about 4 cups a day
EAAs - so effective in so many ways it's not even funny. Tyrosine and phenylalanine can aid in fatigue and depressive mood.
Fish Oil - megadose it if you can afford it and can withstand the fish burps. If not just consume a lot of EVOO. Any which way you can get omega-3s will be good.
Eat any and every kind of fruit you can get your hands on. Replenishing liver glycogen is underrated and crucial. Best source of carbs next to oats IMO, I don't care what anyone says. I eat oats + fruit 3x a day; best source of sustained, clean, and refreshed energy from food that I've come across. Bananas, blueberries, apples, oranges, and grapes are just a few of my constants. I understand some of the seasonal ones can be spendy but bananas, oranges, and apples would suffice just fine. I just love fruits so I eat each and every kind.
Lastly, pantothenic acid is great for adrenal support, as is the whole B-complex so getting a strictly vitamin-b complex supplement can definitely aid in overall energy expenditure without having to get all stim'ed out.
Try this out for at least a good 2 weeks completely without stims and you should start feeling very good about yourself without having to turn to stims. You might say that green tea has caffeine in it, but it's loaded with so many more benefits that it's just not really an issue. Plus I think it's like under 30-40mg per cup depending on the extract. If anything you can get decaffeinated green tea if you want to be extreme.
There's a bunch more alternative things I could go on about, let me know how Cordy-VO2 Ultra works out for you.
01-05-2010 10:39 PM
AX Product Specialist
the gentleman above has you taken care of...
01-06-2010 11:40 AM
Originally Posted by F355
Good post man and thank you for taking the time to type it all up.
I actually changed to Geranamine when ephedrine was banned and have honestly had no side affects at all other than tolerence issues which is why i researched alternatives.
I have been using Rhodiola Rosea with Chocamine for a really nice boost in energy and mood and it was researching Rhodiola i came across Cordyceps etc. etc.
Due to family and work commitments i train at 4:00am so i need immediate energy, focus etc. and hoping the Cordygen-VO2 ULTRA will be good for me.
I'm aware that Citrulline Malate and Beta-Alanine are not stims but i find them and BCAA's extremely important at this time of day. Add Geranamine and a bit of Caffeine/Chocamine and i'm set. Haven't had a bad workout in years. I haven't used straight EAA's but it is on my list of things to try.
I have used DMG (dimethylglycine) in the past which greatly increased oxygen but i can't find a good quality product now.
Re fruit: i eat a lot of apples because i like them and they take the edge off my appetite. Other than that i don't eat much fruit at all unless i'm detoxing when i eat only fruit until lunchtime.
I've dropped fish oil recently as i eat a lot of salmon and i usually have a couple of tins of sardines at work so i can't justify taking more supplemental Omega 3's.
Thanks again for your very informative post. I'll definitely keep it in my records. Just hoping that the Cordygen-VO2 ULTRA lives up to all the great reviews i've been reading on it.
01-06-2010 03:27 PM
AX Product Specialist
you'll enjoy the VO2, I don't do jack for cardio, but even with my strength workouts it helps my breathing, doing squats at 20 reps is a bit easier when you have a better o2 capacity :rockon:
01-06-2010 05:05 PM
Not a problem man. I forgot to mention Rhodiola Rosea as well, it's great at keeping things at bay. Cordy-VO2 Ultra has that in there which makes a perfect addition. I've been wanting to try Chocamine for a while now. I'd like to add it to my teas for just that extra edge, I think it could be useful for someone like me who is trying to keep stims at very moderate uses.
Originally Posted by Jag
I can't remember if I've ever used DMG, if I did then it was in a prop blend of a product that I can't recall. I have however used TMG, trimethylglycine, which I think is also called betaine anyhdrous if I remember; in which it's used to reduce lactic acid and ammonia so again, great addition for endurance.
Other than that I see you have all corners filled. I could see how you'd want to hang on to geranamine because of when you workout, heck, I'd probably be doing the same thing lol. But as long as you try to cycle it, because tolerance build up sucks and causes you nothing but trouble, you should be good. Try and not take geranamine for one day and see how you respond to just chocamine and coffee/caffeine.
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