[MacWanted]

I was wondering why NP is still selling this brand when we know that they use illegal thing in their products? where is the deonthology of NP?

[RedwolfWV]

If you have a problem with ALRI, don't buy from them. But let the rest of us make our own decisions.

[warsteiner]

If you have a problem with ALRI, don't buy from them. But let the rest of us make our own decisions.

Well said ^^^

[Chub]

I agree. if you don't like the product just don't buy it. I'm sure if ALRI stuff didn't sell NP would soon stop stocking up on it.

[Jayhawkk]

The recalled products aren't sold. It is up to you to decide if you wish to purchase the ones that aren't recalled.

[Hank Vangut]

yes, venom hyperdrive 3.0 was recalled and is no longer sold by NP.

hyperdrive 3.0 which is currently sold is alri's new re-formulation.

[MacWanted]

I am agree with you guys but how to trust a company when they put medics in their products. If NP would ban this brand, then they can put some presure to change this bad behaviour and decide to sell them again, no?

[warsteiner]

I am agree with you guys but how to trust a company when they put medics in their products. If NP would ban this brand, then they can put some presure to change this bad behaviour and decide to sell them again, no?

I can only see this happening if all major online stores decided to do this not just NP. Best just to buy other brands if you do not like Alri.

[Hank Vangut]

i not aware of the entire story. was alri's intent malicious or an honest mistake?
from the little bit i've read it appears that they are complying with the fda.

[Imeniaan]

I was wondering why NP is still selling this brand when we know that they use illegal thing in their products? where is the deonthology of NP?

You mean just like Palo Alto Labs when they put illegal stuff in their products. Maybe NP should suspend offering Palo Alto products.

[warsteiner]

i not aware of the entire story. was alri's intent malicious or an honest mistake?
from the little bit i've read it appears that they are complying with the fda.

I would say they spiked the products intentionally and then didn't add the ingredients to the product list.

The same with Palo Alto labs adding Viagra to Aspire 36. I can't believe that was a mistake.

Both companies make some great products but they don't do themselves any favours when this happens. It also makes you wonder how many other companies have 'hidden' ingredients in their products.

TBH I think it would be better for everyone if all supps had to be FDA approved before they could go on sale. It would certainly have saved me a lot of money in the past that I spent on supps that didn't do anything that they promised!

[RedwolfWV]

TBH I think it would be better for everyone if all supps had to be FDA approved before they could go on sale. It would certainly have saved me a lot of money in the past that I spent on supps that didn't do anything that they promised!

I'm sure glad you trust the FDA that much.

[ShakesAllDay]

TBH I think it would be better for everyone if all supps had to be FDA approved before they could go on sale.

[EasyEJL]

The same with Palo Alto labs adding Viagra to Aspire 36. I can't believe that was a mistake.

the fda lab reports said "trace amounts of an analogue of tadafil" (cialis) if I recall right. trace amounts <> spiking, sorry. the effectiveness of aspire 36 was somewhere between 25-50mg of tadafil, and the FDA wouldn't have said "trace" for that much.

[NutraPlanet CS]

I'm sure glad you trust the FDA that much.

I agree...I mean look at the sides that Alli carries....it is FDA approved. LOL. I wouldn't want to crap my pants, just b/c the FDA says its cool.

Oily stools. As the Alli weight loss pill reduces the production of an enzyme in the intestine, which converts fatty dietary elements into fatty acids, some fat from digested food may not be processed. As a result the body will find a way to release basic fat content from the body, usually excreted naturally. Due to the nature of the left over substances, stools can often appear oily and emit an unfortunate odour.

Flatulence. Another means by which the body has been known to release unwanted waste is by flatulence. While this is a totally natural and harmless release, it can prove potentially embarrassing and uncomfortable as the customer may not have full control of their bowels at all times.

Vitamin deficiency. Even though Alli is specifically structured to take out the fatty content of dietary intake, some vitamins may consist of fatty content, which may not be absorbed into the body. It is therefore recommended that while using taking Alli, the user also takes a daily dose of vitamin tablets.

[thesinner]

I was wondering why NP is still selling this brand when we know that they use illegal thing in their products? where is the deonthology of NP?

word of the day calendars kick ass

[thesinner]

the fda lab reports said "trace amounts of an analogue of tadafil" (cialis) if I recall right. trace amounts <> spiking, sorry. the effectiveness of aspire 36 was somewhere between 25-50mg of tadafil, and the FDA wouldn't have said "trace" for that much.

They were derivatives of viagra.

http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/paloalto02_08.html

Don't use your experience with aspire and other PDE-5 inhibitors to estimate the amount that's in it. That's not how it works.

[EasyEJL]

They were derivatives of viagra.

http://www.fda.gov/oc/po/firmrecalls/paloalto02_08.html

Don't use your experience with aspire and other PDE-5 inhibitors to estimate the amount that's in it. That's not how it works.

true, but "trace amounts" is non-clinical effect amounts either way.

[verner]

Fda regulation is not the key. The industry needs to come up with a way to police ourselves before it is too late. If we do not, one day the FDA will get what they want and most companies will go out of business as a result of it. When there is finally no loopholes to find and we becoming like Canada and other countries, who needs scrips for basic supplements, we will wish we did this.

[verner]

OMG Easy, you have over 17,000 post in less than 2 years? DAMN!

[Steveoph]

Fda regulation is not the key. The industry needs to come up with a way to police ourselves before it is too late. If we do not, one day the FDA will get what they want and most companies will go out of business as a result of it. When there is finally no loopholes to find and we becoming like Canada and other countries, who needs scrips for basic supplements, we will wish we did this.

Ugh Canadian customs, don't get me started! Nothing hormonal/DHEA allowed in, they're getting tigher on GH stuff, Acetylated-AA's, Yohimbine... for some reason we still have Ephedra

[EasyEJL]

OMG Easy, you have over 17,000 post in less than 2 years? DAMN!

shhh dont tell anyone.

[Hank Vangut]

shhh dont tell anyone.

is this how you got your thumb injury?

[EasyEJL]

is this how you got your thumb injury?

probably