Just took the TNT plunge-a few questions..

[RoadBlocK]

Well, just put in another order with nutra, once again, I spent way too much money, but I sold some of my sd warchest stash, so with a little overtime work, I should be able to balance out the large purchase. I just scooped up a couple of TNT stacks, among other things, and I was wondering where the "official" write up was(for the stack) for recommended dosing of the three products together(other than whats at the npsite). What amounts/doses seem to be working best? Whats the kick in time? What else are people running with the stack? Anything that would be a bad idea to run with the stack?

Thanks for any replys!

 

[Steveoph]

Divanil takes about 1-2 weeks to build in the system. I'd dose 5 a day for improved results, but official recommendation is 4. T-Rez is 2x Day, I'd say split evenly. T-Force is 3x/day. You can add some Maca, Testofen, Longjack, Icariin, to the stack. Drive would have a few nice compounds.

Bad idea, not much. AA might not be ideal since there is some research suggesting Resveratrol may interfere with AA/PGE .

 

[B5150]

My resources tell me that they each have a 3 caps a day dosage recommendation. Those sources being the bottles and the site's TNT label. Did I miss something?

I do agree with Steve in that two weeks is where things start to become noticeable.

 

[RoadBlocK]

My resources tell me that they each have a 3 caps a day dosage recommendation. Those sources being the bottles and the site's TNT label. Did I miss something?

I do agree with Steve in that two weeks is where things start to become noticeable.

:lol:Haha, B, no you didnt miss something, but I thought that maybe I did, if for nothing else the different serving amounts in the bottles:

Servings per Container (T-Rez™): 60
Servings per Container (Divanex™): 120
Servings per Container (T-Force): 90

I was figuring to get a solid month for my 59.99, so I was already thinking 2 T-rez, 4 Divanex, and 3 Tforce would make a nice even month. Exactly what Steveoph outlined(thankyou), but I wanted to see it from someone to be sure it was a sound idea.

Thanks for the input, and I will take a look at your review journal for some more relevant information.

 

[B5150]

:lol:Haha, B, no you didnt miss something, but I thought that maybe I did, if for nothing else the different serving amounts in the bottles:

Servings per Container (T-Rez™): 60
Servings per Container (Divanex™): 120
Servings per Container (T-Force): 90

I was figuring to get a solid month for my 59.99, so I was already thinking 2 T-rez, 4 Divanex, and 3 Tforce would make a nice even month. Exactly what Steveoph outlined(thankyou), but I wanted to see it from someone to be sure it was a sound idea.

Thanks for the input, and I will take a look at your review journal for some more relevant information.

Ah...I see the issue. I have the original run which has 120 caps of T-Rez

 

[stxnas]

I would personally add in an aromatase inhibitor if I had one on hand

 

[DaveGabe24]

Wasn't there talk of 5on/2off for T-Force to avoid shutdown?

I bought 2 stacks myself and just received them, along with a ton of other stuff

 

[Hank Vangut]

i like the AI suggestion and 5 on 2 off protocol posted above.
i felt great while on the tnt stack but comming off wasn't so great for me. i think those two suggestions would have helped.

 

[ryaroberts]

im glad to finally see talk about the TNT stack. ive been curious about it myself.

 

[Steveoph]

I would personally add in an aromatase inhibitor if I had one on hand

Agreed since Resveratrol is a very weak AI. TD Formestane would be my top pick, Trione or ATD 2nd. Actually Sustain Alpha would be a pretty fun stack, although pricier.

 

[RoadBlocK]

Thanks for all the input, I will be sure to post my experiences once Im done with the TNT stack. I will say in advance, that Im pretty optimistic judging from what Ive read, so Im really looking forward to getting started.

 

[Ubiyca]

What about using something like .5 Arimidex AFTER TNT cycle to jump start test?

Using it during the cycle for me is bad since it takes off all water weight, kills estrogen.. too much IMO, estrogen is good for strength and mass..

 

[Steveoph]

What about using something like .5 Arimidex AFTER TNT cycle to jump start test?

Using it during the cycle for me is bad since it takes off all water weight, kills estrogen.. too much IMO, estrogen is good for strength and mass..

Well you won't be surpressed post-cycle so I don't see this "jump start test" thing working, it will just work like an AI.

It only kills estrogen if you dose it too high; dose lower.

 

[Ubiyca]

Well you won't be surpressed post-cycle so I don't see this "jump start test" thing working, it will just work like an AI.

It only kills estrogen if you dose it too high; dose lower.

Alright, I will do it coz with all the **** I've been taking I think it could only do me good to have a low low dose of arimidex added in.

Btw Stevie.. off-topic but I have some generic Cialis (Tadacip from Cipla (india) and it doesn't work anywhere near as well as Aspire 36 (original) 20mg cialis tabs btw.

Should I cut them in quarters maybe and take them more often so it builds up in my system? Rather than taking 1 every few weeks or so?

Brb to cut up a tiny piece of arimidex.. this means I am going to go SUPER overboard and megadose everything now too, helll yeaaaah!

 

[verner]

Alright, I will do it coz with all the **** I've been taking I think it could only do me good to have a low low dose of arimidex added in.

Btw Stevie.. off-topic but I have some generic Cialis (Tadacip from Cipla (india) and it doesn't work anywhere near as well as Aspire 36 (original) 20mg cialis tabs btw.

Should I cut them in quarters maybe and take them more often so it builds up in my system? Rather than taking 1 every few weeks or so?

Brb to cut up a tiny piece of arimidex.. this means I am going to go SUPER overboard and megadose everything now too, helll yeaaaah!

This is the wrong forum for these questions friend. See OTC Drugs :hammer:

 

[Hank Vangut]

Thanks for all the input, I will be sure to post my experiences once Im done with the TNT stack. I will say in advance, that Im pretty optimistic judging from what Ive read, so Im really looking forward to getting started.

cool roadblock! yeah, do keep us posted on how it goes for you. even if it's just a quick final thought after your run posted here.

 

[Ubiyca]

I don't think I should have added that small amount of arimidex to this cycle... I'm pretty cut right now but lost a lot of water weight.. adex is stronggg ****, I barely took ANY, like half of .25! Imagine that.. THOUGH I will say this... Mood is EXCELLENT!!! Maybe the trade off is worth it? hmmmmm, also body = a little bit smaller due to lost water weight but ROCK solid

 

[B5150]

Alright, I will do it coz with all the **** I've been taking I think it could only do me good to have a low low dose of arimidex added in.

Brb to cut up a tiny piece of arimidex.. this means I am going to go SUPER overboard and megadose everything now too, helll yeaaaah!

I don't think I should have added that small amount of arimidex to this cycle... I'm pretty cut right now but lost a lot of water weight.. adex is stronggg ****, I barely took ANY, like half of .25! Imagine that.. THOUGH I will say this... Mood is EXCELLENT!!! Maybe the trade off is worth it? hmmmmm, also body = a little bit smaller due to lost water weight but ROCK solid

Sorry but I don't believe that in 12 to 16 hours you experienced what you discribed from .25mg of Arimidex. I am not saying you didn't experience what you did, but I am say that Arimidex is not responsible for it.

 

[Ubiyca]

Sorry but I don't believe that in 12 to 16 hours you experienced what you discribed from .25mg of Arimidex. I am not saying you didn't experience what you did, but I am say that Arimidex is not responsible for it.

Why do you say that??? I kept having to get up while I was trying to sleep to piss every damn hour. Always happens when I take arimidex. Why do you say you don't believe this?

 

[stxnas]

I don't know anything about Arimidex, but I'm going to take a wild guess and say it has a long half life...just guessing though and I could be completely wrong

 

[B5150]

Why do you say that??? I kept having to get up while I was trying to sleep to piss every damn hour. Always happens when I take arimidex. Why do you say you don't believe this?

Because it is not a diuretic, it is an aromatase inhibitor.

I did not say I don't believe you experienced what you did but I suspect it is not a result of airimidex. If you claim it is a result of arimidex, in 12 hours, so it is.

 

[Ubiyca]

Because it is not a diuretic, it is an aromatase inhibitor.

I did not say I don't believe you experienced what you did but I suspect it is not a result of airimidex. If you claim it is a result of arimidex, in 12 hours, so it is.

I dunno man.. I wish it didn't work this may on me. It sheds my water weight it seems pretty quick, makes me piss like a racehorse even when I don't drink much water.

I didn't do anything different and looked the exact same before the adex and I was expecting this to happen as it always does in the past, though it's not as bad as when I would take .5 or more.. It's not THAT bad... but next time I take some it will be a very very veryyyyyyy miniscule dose.

 

[B5150]

I believe you and understand. My point is that I question whether the arimidex is inhibiting aromatase (lowering estrogen) at such a minuscule amount in such an instantaneous manner.

I'm not saying it isn't, but I find it interesting.

 

[ticco]

hopefully this kicks in soon cause its been about two weeks now and im not seeing too much so far. ive been fiddling with the dosing as well so hopefully i will hit the right mix.

 

[Ubiyca]

hopefully this kicks in soon cause its been about two weeks now and im not seeing too much so far. ive been fiddling with the dosing as well so hopefully i will hit the right mix.

In all fairness, It's taken me about 6 weeks for the mass building effects to really kick in, in my ACTX+STOKED+DIVANEX+T-REZ+JUST ADDED T-FORCE AND ICARIIN 50%

 

[ticco]

hopefully it will ive heard good things and i picked up 2 of the stacks so there is still some time

 

[ryaroberts]

how would TNT work as a PCT. should it still be taking all together or slightly separated out by weeks into PCT?

 

[ticco]

about to start my 2nd run of this as t force is done and rez is about to be...still not seeing much which is disappointing.

 

[Hank Vangut]

how would TNT work as a PCT. should it still be taking all together or slightly separated out by weeks into PCT?

tnt would be excellent for pct. i personally would run it all together.

 

[Hank Vangut]

about to start my 2nd run of this as t force is done and rez is about to be...still not seeing much which is disappointing.

sorry to hear this.
it seems common for both nettle root and fadogia to take a few weeks to build up in your system before it starts working. but i would expect you to feel at least something by now.
you are a big guy at 270lbs. have you considered upping the dose?
i'm 100lbs less than you so what worked for me might not for you.

 

[B5150]

I am presently experimenting with upping the dose of T-Force and Davinex for the last week of my use. I feel a sense of it being right on the edge of my response at the recommended dose but not quite resulting in a supraphysiological response that we come to enjoy. I'll be doing 4 caps of T-Force and 4 caps of Davinex this week.

 

[ticco]

yea hank ive been tweaking the dosage. what do you think of 5 tforce 4 divanex and 2-3 t rez per dose...for the second part of it?

 

[RoadBlocK]

First day today, obviously nothing to report, other than a little stomach upset/indigestion. Anyone else get this??

 

[ticco]

didnt get that roadblock your taking it with food right?

 

[RoadBlocK]

didnt get that roadblock your taking it with food right?

Two out of three doses with food, Im not really concerned, just curious, I'll be sure to take them all with food.

 

[Steveoph]

First day today, obviously nothing to report, other than a little stomach upset/indigestion. Anyone else get this??

Haven't heard of anyone else with your stomach discomfort offhand. Maybe it was just a coincidence with some funny food, see how it goes or th next few days.

 

[Iron Lungz]

Subscribed.
I'll email you later, RB.

 

[strategicmove]

....
I'll email you later....

Fine!

 

[RoadBlocK]

Day 2, all doses with food, no indigestion, will see what happens tomorrow, if nothing, then just a fluke coincidence like stevo suggested.

 

[RoadBlocK]

Day 3, no stomach issues at all. But I did sleep really good last night, perhaps just another coincidence. Im not loggin this, so I wont clutter up the np section, just wanted to report on the stomach issues, all is well.

I do have another question, has any one done much higher doses? I was thinking of upping the doses on everything once I hit the two week mark, after assessing progress, and determining potential benefit vs cost ratio. Any thoughts on this plan?

 

[Steveoph]

I know people have done up to 2.5g/day, I think Rodja was dosing pretty close to that amount. I usually recommend dosing at 2g/day for extra benefits.

Glad to hear all is well.

 

[ticco]

i have upped the dosage on everything 4 tforce 4 divanex and 2 t rez per dose. its really not becoming cost effective at this point as t force will only last 7.5 days. Oh well guess i was just a non responder which is really disappointing.

 

[Steveoph]

i have upped the dosage on everything 4 tforce 4 divanex and 2 t rez per dose. its really not becoming cost effective at this point as t force will only last 7.5 days. Oh well guess i was just a non responder which is really disappointing.

Can you elaborate a bit more on your dosing protocol, and why you feel you needed to up the dosage?

The directions for T-Force are 3-4caps/day, so even @ 4caps/day, the 90ct. bottle will last 22.5 days.

Also you said at this rate it will only last 7.5 days, how long have you been on the TNT stack. Divanil takes 1-2weeks to build up in your system before you start seeing the effects of more freed testosterone.

 

[ticco]

I ordered two stacks. I have finished the first set and am about halfway into the second run. I was using the recommended doses and feeling nothing. Hank suggested that I play with the dosing as I am a bigger guy. I began to increase each product and felt nothing from any of them. So as I start the second set I was going to dose T Force at 4x3 = 12, same for divanex, and then 1-2x3 t-rez a day. At 12 caps a day of t force that's 7.5 days.

I love nutraplanet and have had success with a lot of the products. I have always stayed natural and I thought that this would be a great attempt after reading reviews. I have heard about the build up and waited it out but I still don't feel anything. Anything tips you guys could provide would be appreciated.

 

[RoadBlocK]

I dont want to seem like a company pimp, but just to update, so far Im really liking the way I feel on the TNT stack. Im barely two weeks in, and I feel pretty good, anyone who has ever been on something knows that some products can really make you feel like crap, even though the gains are good, the overall mood, lethargy, and irritability can make it a tough time. Im by no means comparing the TNT stack to anything strong thats out on the market, because gains are minimal at best, nothing earth shattering, but the way I feel is well worth it. I said it once before, but I think the TNT will be awesome to use during pct, at least for me, and I think I will use it as bridge, so to speak, during off times because I think it will help me to keep my gains, and stay focused. Between the TNT stack, and the usp prime/pump/recreate stacks, I think that off times will no longer be down times, if you get my drift. Like I said, I just wanted to through in an update.

 

[Hank Vangut]

thanks for the feedback RB! :thumbsup:
yeah, your experience on it sounds very similar to mine.

 

[RoadBlocK]

Thanks H,

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Hank Vangut again.

 

[0g1]

I just got the TNT stack and thought I should probably take the t-force before the meal (empty stomach) and the t-rez and divanex during the meal (help digestion?).

 

[Steveoph]

I just got the TNT stack and thought I should probably take the t-force before the meal (empty stomach) and the t-rez and divanex during the meal (help digestion?).

Yup, herbals are good on an empty stomach; the Divanil should be taken w/ the meal to slow down the release. The TRez is a bit less cut and dry but with a meal is fine.

 

[stxnas]

Nettle has a half life around 12 hours or so, but free test is said to have a half life of anywhere from one minute to an hour. It's kind of a like a dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. Due to the long half life, I would think it would have a cumulative effect as time goes on.

And like Steveo said, the the T-Rez should be fine either way. Its formula does include bioperine (aka piperine) to aid absorption in the intestine. This ingredient actually should aid with the absorption of the Divanex and T-Force too since bioperine aids in the absorption of phytochemicals. Just something to think about when dosing