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    Why doesn't Nutra do bulk hormonal powders?


    You know, the ones that are completely legal for the time being.. Why don't they do their own bulks?

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    The demand is there. That bold run was awhile back...
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    Which ones would you specifically like to see?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Which ones would you specifically like to see?
    1-Dhea
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    Hmm.. Well, I'll be as brief as I can, lol...

    (for the most part I'll just list a name of something with the compound in it)
    1-DHEA
    h-drol
    Superdrol
    Phera
    Dienolone
    M14ADD
    Havoc
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    this opens up a new can of worms.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AUTO View Post
    this opens up a new can of worms.
    A big one.
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    They offered one PH powder once. They pulled it off the shelf on advice from their lawyer. I think this was just before ORD happened, but I really doubt that they would get back into raw powders. (but I wouldn't mind seeing it happen)
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    Quote Originally Posted by RedwolfWV View Post
    They offered one PH powder once. They pulled it off the shelf on advice from their lawyer. I think this was just before ORD happened, but I really doubt that they would get back into raw powders. (but I wouldn't mind seeing it happen)
    When I replied I was thinking about DHEA/7-OH in bulk. Like Redwolf mentioned, we pulled off the PH powders due to legal issues. Probably won't see bulk PH's come back, but I was seeing what the interest is for the 2 I mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    When I replied I was thinking about DHEA/7-OH in bulk. Like Redwolf mentioned, we pulled off the PH powders due to legal issues. Probably won't see bulk PH's come back, but I was seeing what the interest is for the 2 I mentioned.
    I'd personally like to see 7-OH DHEA or 7-keto-DHEA in either powder or nutracaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quigs;
    I'd personally like to see 7-OH DHEA or 7-keto-DHEA in either powder or nutracaps.
    Yep! As Nutracaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quigs View Post
    I'd personally like to see 7-OH DHEA or 7-keto-DHEA in either powder or nutracaps.
    It's on the NutraCap slate. There's a few ahead of it in line, but it should get done .
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    11oxo a.k.a. adrenosterone in bulk...would be sick....any chance Steve?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    It's on the NutraCap slate. There's a few ahead of it in line, but it should get done .
    Also, please work in some dhea powder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by R-Mac View Post
    11oxo a.k.a. adrenosterone in bulk...would be sick....any chance Steve?
    I'll look into it. Found this thread who has used bulk adrenosterone? .

    I know we're working on bringing back the goodies for you guys like form, atd and 6-oxo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    I'll look into it. Found this thread who has used bulk adrenosterone? .

    I know we're working on bringing back the goodies for you guys like form, atd and 6-oxo.
    thanks...ya all the 11oxo knockoffs seem to suck in terms of feedback Ive seen....that's why I was hoping a trusted source like Nutra could pull it off....mabye even get bulk from PA...Ive used 11oxo and loved it for recomp and fat loss at 450-750mg...just gets a bit pricey
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    When I replied I was thinking about DHEA/7-OH in bulk. Like Redwolf mentioned, we pulled off the PH powders due to legal issues. Probably won't see bulk PH's come back, but I was seeing what the interest is for the 2 I mentioned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quigs View Post
    I'd personally like to see 7-OH DHEA or 7-keto-DHEA in either powder or nutracaps.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Which ones would you specifically like to see?
    6a-bromo and 6b-bromo, and a mix of 6a,6b-bromo

    that would be great,
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    Sam is keenly aware of the huge demand for these.

    Unfortunately, the supply valve from China has effectively been shut off, even after the Olympics are over. Furthermore, just because there is no explicit law against some of these compounds does not ensure NP's safety from certain federal agencies (see Legal Gear vs FDA).

    We are always looking out for customer demands while at the same time making sure that we will be around next year to service your needs. Hopefully we can reach a deal on some of these, but we cannot promise anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NutraMan View Post
    Sam is keenly aware of the huge demand for these.

    Unfortunately, the supply valve from China has effectively been shut off, even after the Olympics are over. Furthermore, just because there is no explicit law against some of these compounds does not ensure NP's safety from certain federal agencies (see Legal Gear vs FDA).

    We are always looking out for customer demands while at the same time making sure that we will be around next year to service your needs. Hopefully we can reach a deal on some of these, but we cannot promise anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NutraMan View Post
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    We are always looking out for customer demands while at the same time making sure that we will be around next year to service your needs. Hopefully we can reach a deal on some of these, but we cannot promise anything.
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    Why not incorporate a separate entity ("EntityA"), indemnify the owners, produce bulk caps out of Entity A, have nutraplanet enter into a product purchase agreement with EntityA to purchase bulk caps, and Nutraplanet can subsequently sell said bulk caps to it's customers?
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    The main problem is actually getting the stuff from China.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NutraMan View Post
    The main problem is actually getting the stuff from China.
    Eh, when I was last over there, I went to this store that sold bulk powders, supplements, etc. The place was horrible when it comes to sanitation - I mean horrible!
    China is beautiful in some places, but absolutely devastated in most.
    I would rather have American made powders, but I know that's not easily obtained.
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    Quote Originally Posted by beallio View Post
    Why not incorporate a separate entity ("EntityA"), indemnify the owners, produce bulk caps out of Entity A, have nutraplanet enter into a product purchase agreement with EntityA to purchase bulk caps, and Nutraplanet can subsequently sell said bulk caps to it's customers?

    LOL. That is what the old company "Supreme Muscle" was all about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quigs View Post
    I'd personally like to see 7-OH DHEA or 7-keto-DHEA in either powder or nutracaps.
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    formestane and 6a bromo both at high doses! in one bottle!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    Formestane!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!
    We're trying on this, sources are scarce.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    We're trying on this, sources are scarce.

    let me rephrase this.....CHEAP FORMESTANE!!!!!! lol

    this would sell like no other. either in powder or solution mix
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    Quote Originally Posted by nosnmiveins View Post
    let me rephrase this.....CHEAP FORMESTANE!!!!!! lol

    this would sell like no other. either in powder or solution mix
    Ask and ye shall receive....
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    formestane and 6a bromo both at high doses! in one bottle!
    Why would you want both combined? They both function as AI's with slight androgenic activity at higher end dosages. Not seeing the real benefit of combining the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by quigs View Post
    Why would you want both combined? They both function as AI's with slight androgenic activity at higher end dosages. Not seeing the real benefit of combining the two.
    i feel they would compliment eachother at high doses....

    the hydroxyl group on carbon 4 i believe poses some anabolic activity as well as some androgenic activity, same with the 6a-bromo. and it seems like good stack for strength, and some lean mass
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    Quote Originally Posted by crazyfool405 View Post
    i feel they would compliment eachother at high doses....

    the hydroxyl group on carbon 4 i believe poses some anabolic activity as well as some androgenic activity, same with the 6a-bromo. and it seems like good stack for strength, and some lean mass
    I agree that both would possess good androgenic activity as well as AI activity at the right dosages, but I don't see the point in combining two androgens with very similar properties. You're not likely to get a synergistic effect as you would with combining an strong androgen with a strong anabolic.

    For example, I could see the benefit of combining 6-bromo or formestane with an aromatizing androgen (such as dbol or test)....but not really combining both 6- bromo and formestane. They're just too similar.

    IMO, the purpose of stacking to androgens is to create a synergistic effect (IE a 1+1 =3 effect). I don't see much potential for synergy with these two and you're more likely to just get an additive effect (1+1=2). In such a case, you might as well just up the dose of the single compound...you'll get the same effect.

    I guess I just don't understand the need to "stack" everything. It seems as though people do it without fully understanding the pharmacologic principle.
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