No.Originally Posted by Xodus;

just got my order! will be trying out at least by tomorrow maybe today...
Is this stuff good for studying?
some more good stuff!
Acute
Classification of
evidence level
according to
WHO, FDA
and EMEAb
IIa
III
IIb
IIa
S. chinensis stimulated the activity of the
CNS at night (activated excitation processes
and normalized nervous processes ratio);
increased tonus of the sympathetic part of the
autonomic nervous system (having no effect
on the parasympathetic part) after night duty;
activated the adrenal cortex activity;
increased the activity of the cardiovascular
and respiratory systems; intensified
oxidation-reduction and metabolic processes;
improved working ability parameters;
reduced parameters of non-specific resistance
the organism
Plant adaptogens stimulate the nervous system
by mechanisms that are totally different from those
of traditional stimulants, being associated rather with
metabolic regulation of various elements of the stresssystem
and modulation of stimulus-response coupling
(Petkov, 1978; Bombardelli et al., 1980; Hasan Samiraet al., 1985; Wagner et al., 1994; Panossian et al., 1999c;
Panossian, 2003). Depending on the mediators of
the stress-system involved in the adaptogen-induced
stress-response, an immediate (single dose effect) or a
long term (after multiple administration) stimulating
effect may be observed. Whilst the efficacy of repeated
administration of adaptogens in improving mental performance
over various time periods is well documented
(Darbinyan et al., 2000; Spasov et al., 2000a, b), reports
on single dose effects are fragmentary and have yet
to be given comprehensive consideration. This article
reviews the results that have been recorded in human
subjects and, to a lesser extent, in laboratory animals
following single treatment with plant adaptogens
The effects of powdered seeds of S. chinensis on the
mental working capacity of 59 students was studied
(Lebedev, 1951a, b; Kochmareva, 1958) using a method
of text correction in which fatigue decreased the
accuracy but not the speed of work. Following treatment,
the performance of 38 subjects (65%) improved,
17 showing an increase in the number and quality of
corrections made, 14 demonstrating an improvement
only in quality of correction, and 7 an increase only inthe amount of work performed. Six constituents were
isolated from the seeds of S. chinensis and the tests
repeated on 20 subjects, every one of whom received
each of the compounds individually. Schizandrin (6)
was found to be the most active substance present
in the seed material. A dose of 3.6 mg of 6 prevented
exhaustion-related errors in text correction by the subjects:
errors of the control group (treated with placebo)
amounted to 228% whilst those of the treated group
were only 95% (errors in the control test normalized to
100%) (Lebedev, 1951a, b, 1967).
In another study, involving telegraph operators
between the ages of 21 and 24 years, the same author
showed that single doses of either an extract of S.
chinensis (30 mL; 10% in 70% aqueous ethanol) or of
compound 6 (5, 10 and 20 mg) prevented exhaustionrelated
errors in transmitting Morse code at maximum
speed for 5 min (Lebedev, 1967). In this duplicated
set of experiments (n1 = 20, n2 = 23) the frequency of
errors made by the control groups (given glucose or
70% aqueous ethanol as placebo) was 130%, whilst the
error frequency of the treated groups was 84%–103%
(errors in the control test normalized to 100%). Similar
results were obtained following treatment of the operators
with P. ginseng or with phenamine: however, the
latter produced an effect of excitation that increased
speed but not performance.
Powdered seed material of S. chinensis supplied in
capsule form to Red Army soldiers before they undertook
a 20 km ski run, reduced exhaustion and shortage
of breath, the feeling of thirst and dryness of the mouth,
and muscular pain compared with a control group who
had been given a placebo capsule (Murtazin, 1946). The
treated soldiers were able to complete the run in a
shorter time than the control group, and similar sets of
results were recorded for treated and control groups of
civilian skiers tested under the same conditions
fter receiving S. chinensis or amphetamine.
In corroboration of these positive responses,
Lebedev (1967, 1971) reported that schizandrin (6: an
active component of S. chinensis) increased the working
capacities of 20-year-old runners performing over a
distance of 3000 m such that their running times were
remarkably shorter than those of a control group that
had been treated with placebo (glucose). In all doses
tested, the stimulating effect of 6 was of the same order
of magnitude as that of phenamine.
wow great info! I've taken a few doses of it since I got my order... And I can't quite explain but feel "clean" mentally or maybe refreshed is a better word. has a nice uplifting effect to it! and I don't mind the taste too much cause I just drop about a gram of the powder in my mouth and chug some water... kind a like pine cone flavor when I dose it this way. I am sure it might be hard to down after mixed in water first...
hows this working? for those who bought it
For me its been hit or miss day to day, which is odd. some days 1.4 g had me feeling great, focused, awake, aware, some days even 2.1g causes no noticeable change. I haven't really plotted out the why part, but didn't casually notice any real pattern to the days. my second bottle i'm using just preworkout instead of daily, seems to make workouts nice regardless, helps with post workout recovery
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Yeah I agree on the preworkout doses being effective. I haven't been on the stuff too many days in a row but have used it off and on for preworkout, prework/study, and also for those mornings where I feel like I did not get enough sleep (which usually leaves me in a horrible mood); and for me the last one is most effective- it really has helped me those days with an uplifted/mildly motivated state. The sweet spot for me has been a little more then a 1/2 teaspoon.
Big Bump!!! to bring back again!
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Haha 2 year old bump. Nice. I would buy any usppowders that get brought back.