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    Been looking for info on this. Any research? Reviews? One retailer claims it's 4-5x 'stronger" than 11oxo.
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    IMO this is too new.. it will be a while before you start seeing logs unless SCL gets some giveaways or log opps going.
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    what is this stuff, cologne?! i thought it was. hey, that'd be a GREAT marketing strategy. SELL TRANSDERMALS THAT FUNCTION AS COLOGNES. NOW, I WANT 5% OF ALL NET PROFITS FROM THIS IDEA.

    anywho, yeah, i'd like to see some logs on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cool View Post
    Been looking for info on this. Any research? Reviews? One retailer claims it's 4-5x 'stronger" than 11oxo.

    Looks like the same ingredient to me, no?
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    11oxo converts to 11keto. I guess the question is really about which gets absorbed more. It's all dose dependant.
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    wis nutra would sell some bulk 11oxo..i did great great on custom's bulk i was take 6-800mgs a day loved it till i ran out
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    Quote Originally Posted by wojo View Post
    wis nutra would sell some bulk 11oxo..i did great great on custom's bulk i was take 6-800mgs a day loved it till i ran out
    Don't leave us in the dark Wojy. What type of gains did you make on it?
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    well it won't make u huge. My diet was horrible but it made me solid as a rock and denser. I don't remember any weight gain Nice libido boost. At the price of 11-oxo I wouldn't recommend it unless your already lean but I got the bulk powder cheap. I had it laying around and wanted to use it up. IMO it is nice ph to polish a lean physique especially at that dose.
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    I'm very interested in seeing some feedback from this as well. Here's one of PA's comments on his product:

    ...11-oxo is also a precursor to a very effective muscle building hormone known as 11-ketotestosterone. 11-ketotestosterone is some amazing stuff; not only does it not convert to DHT or estrogens, but it also has the lowest intrinsic estrogenic activity of any natural steroid hormone. The myotrophic boost you get from the 11-ketotestosterone will keep your muscle mass intact during your cutting phase, which will not only make you look better but will also enhance your fat loss through the maintanence of a high metabolic rate.
    Like mentioned above it really depends on how good 11-ketotestosterone's oral bio-availability is. In many cases a precursor has more action in the body than the actual parent compound.
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