So....Vicaine V2 got released today

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  1. Lol, the mention of Kratom is partially what got me interested.

  2. So....Vicaine V2 got released today


    Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Well ****, is it possible to get samples? I'd pay for them and would rather do that than buy a $75 bottle right off the bat.
    They're sending me a full bottle to log. Send me your address and I'll send 10 caps once I get the bottle (if that's ok with Wesley and Mike)
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  3. Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    They're sending me a full bottle to log. Send me your address and I'll send 10 caps once I get the bottle (if that's ok with Wesley and Mike)
    That's fine, brother. It's your bottle. Do as you wish.
  4. So....Vicaine V2 got released today


    My question would be... I see some people take this before bed but wouldn't that cause sleeplessness? This doesn't seem like a night time product to me. Taking after 2PM would most likely push it to interfere with sleep wouldn't it? Or could this be used for an evening workout?

  5. Quote Originally Posted by resrch3d View Post
    My question would be... I see some people take this before bed but wouldn't that cause sleeplessness? This doesn't seem like a night time product to me. Taking after 2PM would most likely push it to interfere with sleep wouldn't it? Or could this be used for an evening workout?


    You are confusing this with Somatozine, the MA Labs MK677 product which is taken at night time.

    Vicaine, has stimulant properties, so if you take it several hours before bed time you prob wont sleep. I wont take it past say 4-5pm and I can still fall asleep at night. The funny thing is it gives you great "wakefulness"..which is what Modafinil is prescribed for in many individuals, especially elderly patients. It can also be used to treat narcolepsy.

    As great as it is, it doesn't keep you awake to the degree something like Ephedrine or DMAA would. If I take those I can just toss and turn all night and not sleep..but Vicaine doesn't act like that for anyone that I have heard from.
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  6. Quote Originally Posted by tyga tyga View Post
    They're sending me a full bottle to log. Send me your address and I'll send 10 caps once I get the bottle (if that's ok with Wesley and Mike)
    Man, that is very cool of you- thanks. I'm happy to post up my experiences as well. Anyone that follows my posts knows I am a long time noot fan and always looking for euphoric experiences. I am intrigued by this as it is very unique from an ingredient profile.

  7. Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    You are confusing this with Somatozine, the MA Labs MK677 product which is taken at night time.

    Vicaine, has stimulant properties, so if you take it several hours before bed time you prob wont sleep. I wont take it past say 4-5pm and I can still fall asleep at night. The funny thing is it gives you great "wakefulness"..which is what Modafinil is prescribed for in many individuals, especially elderly patients. It can also be used to treat narcolepsy.

    As great as it is, it doesn't keep you awake to the degree something like Ephedrine or DMAA would. If I take those I can just toss and turn all night and not sleep..but Vicaine doesn't act like that for anyone that I have heard from.
    Cool thanks, I had read a review somewhere on vicaine....Idk which site it was, but the reviewer mentioned taking the product close to bed so that's why I was curiois as to whether people were using it in that manor. With the it's ORA effects, I was assuming looking at its stimulant properties it shouldn't be something that would make a user tired or nullify the stimulants but wanted to make sure.

    Looks like an interesting product I will most lokely try at some point.

  8. Quote Originally Posted by kisaj View Post
    Man, that is very cool of you- thanks. I'm happy to post up my experiences as well. Anyone that follows my posts knows I am a long time noot fan and always looking for euphoric experiences. I am intrigued by this as it is very unique from an ingredient profile.
    glad you are getting a chance to try vicaine, I know this is the kind of stuff you are really into...look forward to your feedback!!!


    if vicaine is as good as I am hoping I will be popping for a bottle-with discount code it's around $60, it will be money well spent--I might even stock up while it's still available!!!
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by thebigt View Post
    glad you are getting a chance to try vicaine, I know this is the kind of stuff you are really into...look forward to your feedback!!!


    if vicaine is as good as I am hoping I will be popping for a bottle-with discount code it's around $60, it will be money well spent--I might even stock up while it's still available!!!

    I would never lie about a product to you guys.

    I have always been honest and upfront about products, and regardless that I rep for the brand I was a Huge fan of this before agreeing to rep.

    I will tell you I have several of my PT clients who buy this on the regular now. Probably 20 of them.

    This is hands down one of the most talked about and loved product that my guys utilize.

    I have been using it now for 6 months myself and I swear by this product 1000% to you guys.

    I have even offered my clients a money back guarantee. You buy it, you dont like it, I will buy the rest of the product from you. I have never had 1 person ask for their money back..in fact 100% of them re-order.
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  10. Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    You are confusing this with Somatozine, the MA Labs MK677 product which is taken at night time.

    Vicaine, has stimulant properties, so if you take it several hours before bed time you prob wont sleep. I wont take it past say 4-5pm and I can still fall asleep at night. The funny thing is it gives you great "wakefulness"..which is what Modafinil is prescribed for in many individuals, especially elderly patients. It can also be used to treat narcolepsy.

    As great as it is, it doesn't keep you awake to the degree something like Ephedrine or DMAA would. If I take those I can just toss and turn all night and not sleep..but Vicaine doesn't act like that for anyone that I have heard from.
    I thought flmodofinil half life was like 12-13 hours?

  11. Any eta on the pump product your coming out with

  12. Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    I would never lie about a product to you guys.

    I have always been honest and upfront about products, and regardless that I rep for the brand I was a Huge fan of this before agreeing to rep.

    I will tell you I have several of my PT clients who buy this on the regular now. Probably 20 of them.

    This is hands down one of the most talked about and loved product that my guys utilize.

    I have been using it now for 6 months myself and I swear by this product 1000% to you guys.

    I have even offered my clients a money back guarantee. You buy it, you dont like it, I will buy the rest of the product from you. I have never had 1 person ask for their money back..in fact 100% of them re-order.
    this is the kind of stuff I love to hear!!!
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  13. Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    Honestly the 1 cap from customers has been sufficient for maybe 10% of the clients I have dealt with on this product, which is probably honestly at least 100 people in the last year. With ease. About 60-70% like Vicaine at 2 caps. And maybe say 20% like it at 3 caps.

    For me 3 caps is a bit too strong. I can handle it but it spikes my BP. I feel good, but I don't like spiking my BP, thats just something I have never liked with any compound.

    My point being out of 100+ customers/clients I have never had 1 person say that 1 capsule was "too strong'. I genuinely think you are very very safe to try 1 cap and based on stats, most people are likely to find 2 caps the sweet spot.

    Hope this info helps Thank you for your interest!!
    He'll no to 3 caps!

    I tolerate two caps if I have food in my system.

    On an empty stomach, two caps put me in LaLaLand.

  14. Quote Originally Posted by resrch3d View Post
    My question would be... I see some people take this before bed but wouldn't that cause sleeplessness? This doesn't seem like a night time product to me. Taking after 2PM would most likely push it to interfere with sleep wouldn't it? Or could this be used for an evening workout?
    Do not take this at night.

    Found out the hard way.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    You are confusing this with Somatozine, the MA Labs MK677 product which is taken at night time.

    Vicaine, has stimulant properties, so if you take it several hours before bed time you prob wont sleep. I wont take it past say 4-5pm and I can still fall asleep at night. The funny thing is it gives you great "wakefulness"..which is what Modafinil is prescribed for in many individuals, especially elderly patients. It can also be used to treat narcolepsy.

    As great as it is, it doesn't keep you awake to the degree something like Ephedrine or DMAA would. If I take those I can just toss and turn all night and not sleep..but Vicaine doesn't act like that for anyone that I have heard from.
    Have you received reviews from anyone that is very sensitive to stimulants (for example, anything more than 50/60 mg of caffeine is too much at one time)? If so, how did they react? I'm curious if some of the ingredients (high dose of tianeptine, theanine, etc.) offset some of the stimulants enough.

  16. Quote Originally Posted by jarrellt67 View Post
    Have you received reviews from anyone that is very sensitive to stimulants (for example, anything more than 50/60 mg of caffeine is too much at one time)? If so, how did they react? I'm curious if some of the ingredients (high dose of tianeptine, theanine, etc.) offset some of the stimulants enough.
    Yes sir, I did have a client with the OG version (this is version 2 and the formula changed) give me his review.

    He loved the product but for him the old Caffeine content was too high and he got jitters and restlessness. But we also figured out he was taking a strong Preworkout he bought from my store within a few hours as well (even though I told him not to). So we did discover that the mixture was putting him over the edge.

    He lowered his dosage, took with food and extra water and was fine.

    Now he is a regular customer for the past few months and says he loves V2 better.

    I liked both versions tbh.

    It's important note though if you take vicaine and need to workout say 2-3 hours later, I would be very cautious about using a preworkout at full strength. I have done it and for me I get a spike in Blood pressure if i take the two products, too close together.
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  17. Is it suggested to take this with food because I haven't been

  18. Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    Yes sir, I did have a client with the OG version (this is version 2 and the formula changed) give me his review.

    He loved the product but for him the old Caffeine content was too high and he got jitters and restlessness. But we also figured out he was taking a strong Preworkout he bought from my store within a few hours as well (even though I told him not to). So we did discover that the mixture was putting him over the edge.

    He lowered his dosage, took with food and extra water and was fine.

    Now he is a regular customer for the past few months and says he loves V2 better.

    I liked both versions tbh.

    It's important note though if you take vicaine and need to workout say 2-3 hours later, I would be very cautious about using a preworkout at full strength. I have done it and for me I get a spike in Blood pressure if i take the two products, too close together.
    If he was taking a "strong pre workout" to begin with, and the PWO alone wasn't pushing him over the edge and wasn't too much for him, only adding Vicaine did that, is it really fair to say that said user is extremely sensitive to stimulants/caffeine if they could tolerate a strong PWO? I think the question may be more of if someone doesn't handle even a mild/moderate dose of caffeine alone well, would the other ingredients in this product potentially make it tolerable, but I could be reading it wrong.
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  19. Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    Yes sir, I did have a client with the OG version (this is version 2 and the formula changed) give me his review.

    He loved the product but for him the old Caffeine content was too high and he got jitters and restlessness. But we also figured out he was taking a strong Preworkout he bought from my store within a few hours as well (even though I told him not to). So we did discover that the mixture was putting him over the edge.

    He lowered his dosage, took with food and extra water and was fine.

    Now he is a regular customer for the past few months and says he loves V2 better.

    I liked both versions tbh.

    It's important note though if you take vicaine and need to workout say 2-3 hours later, I would be very cautious about using a preworkout at full strength. I have done it and for me I get a spike in Blood pressure if i take the two products, too close together.
    Thank you for the response. I personally can only use stim-free preworkouts....unless I quarter or half scoop one of the low stim pre-workouts currently out. So, added stimulants to the products would not be an issue.

  20. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    If he was taking a "strong pre workout" to begin with, and the PWO alone wasn't pushing him over the edge and wasn't too much for him, only adding Vicaine did that, is it really fair to say that said user is extremely sensitive to stimulants/caffeine if they could tolerate a strong PWO? I think the question may be more of if someone doesn't handle even a mild/moderate dose of caffeine alone well, would the other ingredients in this product potentially make it tolerable, but I could be reading it wrong.

    You know in all honestly its tough to say factually. I have to rely on what the customers/clients tell me..

    I don't know what his experience with the PWO was minus the vicaine, etc.. Only that he claimed to be sensitive to stims.

    All I can honestly say is that the combo of vicaine and a super strong PWO combined, just multiplies the effect.

    I would assume if the client was sensitive to Vicaine, he would also be sensitive to most strong PWOs but that for me in only circumstantial evidence. I can't say for fact
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  21. Quote Originally Posted by muscleupcrohn View Post
    If he was taking a "strong pre workout" to begin with, and the PWO alone wasn't pushing him over the edge and wasn't too much for him, only adding Vicaine did that, is it really fair to say that said user is extremely sensitive to stimulants/caffeine if they could tolerate a strong PWO? I think the question may be more of if someone doesn't handle even a mild/moderate dose of caffeine alone well, would the other ingredients in this product potentially make it tolerable, but I could be reading it wrong.
    Exactly this. Thank you for clarifying my question.

  22. Quote Originally Posted by patrick25 View Post
    Is it suggested to take this with food because I haven't been
    If you take it on an empty stomach it hits harder for sure.

    I wake up and take 2 caps with a glass of water, then I make myself coffee and sip on that and I am just fine.

    But I am not stim sensitive.

    If you are sensitive to stims, I personally would "suggest" you start with 1 capsule and take it with a meal to assess tolerance. I do think "most" users will be fine on 1 capsule, even if stim sensitive. But again, I am speaking to the reviews and experiences I have seen.

    I am sure there are some very rare cases where one cap might be too strong for someone. I have not seen it yet.
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  23. Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    You know in all honestly its tough to say factually. I have to rely on what the customers/clients tell me..

    I don't know what his experience with the PWO was minus the vicaine, etc.. Only that he claimed to be sensitive to stims.

    All I can honestly say is that the combo of vicaine and a super strong PWO combined, just multiplies the effect.

    I would assume if the client was sensitive to Vicaine, he would also be sensitive to most strong PWOs but that for me in only circumstantial evidence. I can't say for fact
    Thank you for the honest response.

  24. Quote Originally Posted by WesleyInman View Post
    If you take it on an empty stomach it hits harder for sure.

    I wake up and take 2 caps with a glass of water, then I make myself coffee and sip on that and I am just fine.

    But I am not stim sensitive.

    If you are sensitive to stims, I personally would "suggest" you start with 1 capsule and take it with a meal to assess tolerance. I do think "most" users will be fine on 1 capsule, even if stim sensitive. But again, I am speaking to the reviews and experiences I have seen.

    I am sure there are some very rare cases where one cap might be too strong for someone. I have not seen it yet.
    I appreciate the quick response also eager on the other releases. This stuff is really good hopefully I can keep this feeling through the whole bottle

  25. You guys are welcome

    Trying to be as honest and upfront as possible.

    As for muscleups question about the other ingredients potentially affecting the individuals response. It's a great question. I think I misread it the first time

    Do I think the tianeptine and other ingredients might make it potentially easier to tolerate or worse?

    Again I am not sure 100%. I mean we can look at the "theory" all day and try and attempt to give some idea of what "might' happen, but truthfully I prefer to gauge this product by real life feedback.

    Even with the customers who have taken 3 caps at once, I have not heard but 1 person say they got "jitters" or restlessness on this product..and that was on Vicaine 1, where my client told me that.

    I have taken 3 caps a few times and I don't get jitters or restlessness at all...what I do get is if I workout on that dosaging, even say 1-2 hours after taking it, I feel that my BP is spiked and I am winded during my workout much faster. That is actually the only way I even feel that I am spiked.
    I do not get a headache or any ill effects taking 3 caps at rest.

    The other cool thing I should mention is with this product you really aren't gonna see any "crash" at 1-2 caps. It just wears off and you dont feel exhausted or hypoglycemic, for example like you might on a dmaa PWO for example.

    At least this is my experience and those reported to me.

    On a good note I have to admit out of all the products I rep for or sell, this one product is by far the most Reported product I deal with. Everyone is quick to review this with me and it's great..especially since pretty much 100% of the customers love this product.
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