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Initial Poseidon review


Hey guys, I just got my poseidon in yesterday.

I took i today on an empty stomach. It tastes kinda nasty, Like very salty water.

I also got a weiiiird feeling. I got the tingles in my face and neck, but get this, my ass was uncontrollably itchy!!!!! lol! I thought it was actually very funny! Anyways, I look forward to seeing results with this and It should make a great addition to my epi cycle!
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Hey guys, I just got my poseidon in yesterday.

I took i today on an empty stomach. It tastes kinda nasty, Like very salty water.

I also got a weiiiird feeling. I got the tingles in my face and neck, but get this, my ass was uncontrollably itchy!!!!! lol! I thought it was actually very funny! Anyways, I look forward to seeing results with this and It should make a great addition to my epi cycle!
Looking forward to your log sublimejeh!

For the taste, mix it in water and wait 2-3 minutes before you start to drink it. How many servings did you use and in how much water?

Sounds like you also got the typical Niacin Flush! lol! Diluting it in more water will make it less intense. As Poseidon removes toxins from your body, over time you'll notice the flush is much less noticeable, if you even get one at all. Here is a bit of info on what you experienced:

The niacin "flush"
It's important to note that this niacin flush is not harmful or dangerous. Some people worry about it, but it is actually a sign of improved blood flow.
When you get the niacin "flush", it's an indication that the niacin is causing small blood vessels in your body to be expanded in size. Many of your small blood vessels, called "capilaries" are so small that blood cells can only go through them in single file. Sometimes, in fact, that small capilary passageway is clogged and blood doesn't get through at all.

While the large organs of the body all have blood supplied from large arteries, a great deal of your body, particularly the parts near the skin, get their ONLY supply of blood (therefore also of oxygen and nutrients) from these small capillaries.
The niacin causes these small capilaries to expand - so they might be able to carry 2 or 3 blood cells at the same time. This is a tremendous increase in blood flow.
You experience this as a "flushing" of the skin, simply because there is more blood close to the surface of the body. As the blood flows in these areas, the cells of the small capilaries will also be getting rid of their waste products, and often they produce 'histamine' as part of this process. That histamine is another natural substance produced by every cell in the body when a cell is under attack, or is eliminating toxins. Histamine causes an 'itchy' feeling.


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Cool... it was really funny though because the only ting that was itchy was my ass, but it was REALLY itchy lol

Anyways, I took my second serving tonight preworkout and didn't get a flush but I did notice a nice boost in energy and overall feeling.

Oh and I'm taking one scoop in ~6-8oz of water
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Cool... it was really funny though because the only ting that was itchy was my ass, but it was REALLY itchy lol

Anyways, I took my second serving tonight preworkout and didn't get a flush but I did notice a nice boost in energy and overall feeling.

Oh and I'm taking one scoop in ~6-8oz of water


1 scoop per 8 ounces of water is perfect...

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1 scoop per 8 ounces of water is perfect...

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I haven't looked up too much info you posted about poseidon so forgive me if this is ignorant, but what would you recommend to me as an optimal dosage for poseidon (i would prefer about 3-4 scoops a day because of lack of funds )

I'm 6'2 230-235lbs 14-15% bf if that has any effect on your recommendation. I also eat a ton and drink 1-1 1/2 gallons of water a day
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New update:

about 2 hrs after my second serving---
Very warm sensation right around belt line in my abdominal region... Just a little note
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I haven't looked up too much info you posted about poseidon so forgive me if this is ignorant, but what would you recommend to me as an optimal dosage for poseidon (i would prefer about 3-4 scoops a day because of lack of funds )

I'm 6'2 230-235lbs 14-15% bf if that has any effect on your recommendation. I also eat a ton and drink 1-1 1/2 gallons of water a day
Here is what I would recommend for you:

1. 1 serving first thing in the morning on an empty stomach or with a protein shake or light meal.
2. 2 servings spread out before, during and after workouts (Suggestion: Put 2 servings in a water bottle and start sipping on it 10 minutes prior to workout and finish about the time workout is complete)*
3. 1 serving in the evening before bed.

*On non-workout days: Take your morning and evening dose as usual. Take 1-2 additional servings spread out as much as possible throughout the day.



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Old 02-09-2007, 11:43 AM  
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Ok well day 2 I had my first dose 5 minutes before my protein shake...

MUCH better than on an empty stomach!!!! No niacin flush or itchy feeling.

However last night and this morning i noticed increased heartrate which caused sleeplessness after my bedtime dose. I may have to take my night dose an hour or two before bed!
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Ok well day 2 I had my first dose 5 minutes before my protein shake...

MUCH better than on an empty stomach!!!! No niacin flush or itchy feeling.

However last night and this morning i noticed increased heartrate which caused sleeplessness after my bedtime dose. I may have to take my night dose an hour or two before bed!
I haven't had any reports of an increase in heart rate due to Poseidon.
Did you take anything else that may have attributed to that? Keep me posted.

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Interesting. I just placed my order for poseiden from nutraplanet. Once I get up and going with it, I'll see if I notice anything similar. I'm actually excited about the niacin flush to increase blood flow.

Keep us posted!

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Interesting. I just placed my order for poseiden from nutraplanet. Once I get up and going with it, I'll see if I notice anything similar. I'm actually excited about the niacin flush to increase blood flow.

Keep us posted!

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I agree, you'll find the flush diminishes greatly after the first few weeks however...a sign Poseidon is working, but, like you, I really enjoy a good Niacin Flush ;-)

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I haven't had any reports of an increase in heart rate due to Poseidon.
Did you take anything else that may have attributed to that? Keep me posted.

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I'm pretty positive... I took it before my nightime protein shake and my heart was definitely poundin haha not uncomfortably but higher than resting. I also noticed it before my workout i noitced more energized
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I really enjoy a good Niacin Flush ;-)

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Same... I feel like I know its working when I feel it so its not a bad thing
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its been a few days and the flushes arent that bad anymore.. subtle.. and i know its there.. but not as annoying as that first day dose... ima have to buy more so i can deploy with some
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its been a few days and the flushes arent that bad anymore.. subtle.. and i know its there.. but not as annoying as that first day dose... ima have to buy more so i can deploy with some
Same here, I'm one week into my Poseidon experience and the flush doesn't come at all, just get a little warm every now and then.

Sublime, I know this may sound stupid but how fast did you chug down your shake before bed? I ask because I've found that when I eat rather quickly right before bed, I get the same symptoms you where mentioning.
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this may sound stupid but how fast did you chug down your shake before bed? I ask because I've found that when I eat rather quickly right before bed, I get the same symptoms you where mentioning.
Pretty fast, I mixed one scoop in 6 oz of juice and chugged it down. The only thing is the effect lasted >30 mins which isnt normal for me
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Hmmm, I only ask because eating naturally speeds your metabolism up and the faster you eat, the quicker your digestive system kicks in, which could spike your MR. Try and take your last dose of Poseidon later in the evening as opposed to right before bed, and see if anything changes. I usually take my last dose around 7 and lights out at 9 or so, and haven't noticed anything as far as sleep interference goes.
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Hmmm, I only ask because eating naturally speeds your metabolism up and the faster you eat, the quicker your digestive system kicks in, which could spike your MR. Try and take your last dose of Poseidon later in the evening as opposed to right before bed, and see if anything changes. I usually take my last dose around 7 and lights out at 9 or so, and haven't noticed anything as far as sleep interference goes.
I take my last dose around 8:00 pm...bed time around 10:30 or so. Give that a try and let me know if that elevates the problem.

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I take my last dose around 8:00 pm...bed time around 10:30 or so. Give that a try and let me know if that elevates the problem.

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I'm sure that would work fine as the effect only lasted about 30 minutes last night, its just that i took it RIGHT before hittin the sheets


ANyways, something new ive noticed.... A warm feeling in my kidney region (lower left abdomen)... feels internal and sort of cramps up when i flex my obliques in that area. Probably the potassium at work as I am ingesting much more than usual
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I'm sure that would work fine as the effect only lasted about 30 minutes last night, its just that i took it RIGHT before hittin the sheets


ANyways, something new ive noticed.... A warm feeling in my kidney region (lower left abdomen)... feels internal and sort of cramps up when i flex my obliques in that area. Probably the potassium at work as I am ingesting much more than usual
Sounds like a little indegestion, with the cramping and all. Intestines can act up like that sometimes.

How'd your sleep go last night?
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its been a few days and the flushes arent that bad anymore.. subtle.. and i know its there.. but not as annoying as that first day dose... ima have to buy more so i can deploy with some
wrkn4bigmusles, When and where are you being deployed?
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I'm sure that would work fine as the effect only lasted about 30 minutes last night, its just that i took it RIGHT before hittin the sheets


ANyways, something new ive noticed.... A warm feeling in my kidney region (lower left abdomen)... feels internal and sort of cramps up when i flex my obliques in that area. Probably the potassium at work as I am ingesting much more than usual
What kind of Protein are you taking and about how many grams per day?
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I've been taking protein forever man

But currently I'm using a WPI and a casein before bed
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Sounds like a little indegestion, with the cramping and all. Intestines can act up like that sometimes.

How'd your sleep go last night?
Fine actually. I had it about an hour before bed and no problems!
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Fine actually. I had it about an hour before bed and no problems!
Good to hear, be sure to keep us updated on how Poseidon is treating you.
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Fine actually. I had it about an hour before bed and no problems!
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I agree, you'll find the flush diminishes greatly after the first few weeks however...a sign Poseidon is working, but, like you, I really enjoy a good Niacin Flush ;-)

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The flush hasn't subsided for me yet. My co-workers tell me that I've got to go to a mirror and check out the rash that's on my face, neck and arms (any exposed skin). lol. This is only when I use 2 servings after the workout with BCAAs (already has niacin in it as well).
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Then again... I am detoxing, but I do still walk on the treadmill and take BCAAs.
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The flush hasn't subsided for me yet. My co-workers tell me that I've got to go to a mirror and check out the rash that's on my face, neck and arms (any exposed skin). lol. This is only when I use 2 servings after the workout with BCAAs (already has niacin in it as well).
With the added niacin in your bcaa's, how much does that make with the poseidon stacked into it?
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The flush hasn't subsided for me yet. My co-workers tell me that I've got to go to a mirror and check out the rash that's on my face, neck and arms (any exposed skin). lol. This is only when I use 2 servings after the workout with BCAAs (already has niacin in it as well).
How much Niacin is in the BCAA product your taking FOG? Do you sip on the mixture before during and after your workout or do you take it all at once? Last question...how much water do you mix it with?

Glad your feeling better my friend ;-)

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