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    Quote Originally Posted by Distilled Water View Post
    Yea alot of independent supp shops do their ordering thru them. I'll have to give my rep a call
    Not JUST that.. but w/e... I guess... I'm upset lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Redeemer View Post
    From the NY Times, this is the scary part:
    The investigation, authorities said, was focused on many United States-based Web sites that sold “conversion kits,” which could be used to convert raw steroid powders into a finished product. Investigators also targeted Internet discussion boards where users learned “how to illicitly use, locate and discreetly purchase performance enhancing drugs, including anabolic steroids. Many of the underground steroids labs targeted in this case advertise and are endorsed on these message boards.”

    I wouldn't be surprised if these douchebags have miltiple accounts and are regular posters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    You're one of them! GET HIM! :bruce1: LOL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingAgainst View Post
    You're one of them! GET HIM! :bruce1: LOL!
    I feel like Jack Bauer.

    Just don't make take anything to prove I am not a snitch...
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    I feel like Jack Bauer.

    Just don't make take anything to prove I am not a snitch...
    LOL!!! we'll torture you til you tell us what we wanna hear
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    Quote Originally Posted by aspire210 View Post
    west coast customs is much more strict than east coast, hence most powder guys wouldn't ship west coast so most labs were on the east coast.
    Stay the hell away from Alaskan customs (coming in from west coast).

    That is all I am going to say about it.
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    this entire ****ing situation absolutely disgusts me

    i hope these DEA pricks are patting themselves on the ****ing back for doing such a great service to america. i like how they pointed out the 17 year old kids. only 17 year old kids are buying these steroids? these dip****s have got to be kidding me. i hope the people responsible for this burn in hell for unnecessarily ruining peoples' lives in order to justify their pathetic and unsuccessful jobs.

    11.4 million doses of steroids. federal dosing designates .5ml as one dose (****ing BS). so 11.4 million doses is about 570,000 10ml vials of steroids. who the **** do they think is taking all of that gear?????

    17 year olds and nfl players? do these ***gots realize how stupid they are? there are simply no words to cover all the ways in which i think this is wrong, not to mention they are purposely posing themselves as steroid dealers INTENTIONALLY TO SUSTAIN DEMAND AND ENTRAP BODYBUILDERS.

    wake up *******s, 17 year olds are not using hgh and steroids from steroid boards. find me a ****ing 17 year old that can find this information, send out a western union payment, maintain a private email account, purchase needles, construct a cycle, and give himself an injection while at the same time keeping it hidden from his parents and friends. yea i hope that puts it in perspective.

    these DEA agents are ****ing over 20 and 30 something successful and motivated people conscientious about their bodies. christ, from what i can tell most of us are ****ing IT people.
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    You're right Jomi.. but the media says it's bad, and that NFL players, pro wrestlers, and other athletes and a ton of high schoolers are the only ones using this sh*t. So what can ya do? honestly. Petitions? ha they get laughed at, then they know who's using even more clearly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingAgainst View Post
    You're right Jomi.. but the media says it's bad, and that NFL players, pro wrestlers, and other athletes and a ton of high schoolers are the only ones using this sh*t. So what can ya do? honestly. Petitions? ha they get laughed at, then they know who's using even more clearly.
    There is the problem right there.

    Ask most people about steroids and they will say they are bad. Ask why, and they will look at you and say, "uuuuh, because they are."
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    Quote Originally Posted by xjsynx View Post
    There is the problem right there.

    Ask most people about steroids and they will say they are bad. Ask why, and they will look at you and say, "uuuuh, because they are."
    Like that creatine stuff....all bad.

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    and do you know what i can do about this?

    ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. TAKE IT UP THE ****ING TAILPIPE. there is nothing wrong with my lifestyle whatsoever. but because i use steroids my life can be ruined. so much for the sanctity of the law
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    and do you know what i can do about this?

    ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. TAKE IT UP THE ****ING TAILPIPE. there is nothing wrong with my lifestyle whatsoever. but because i use steroids my life can be ruined. so much for the sanctity of the law
    Never existed.. it was a lie from the start.. our founding fathers would go on a shooting rampage if they knew how corrupt and money grubbing our government is and how only people with money get what they want.. if we had a bunch of poor people in the senate/congress and a broke ass president, I'm sure things would change QUICK... we would have a health care plan, we wouldnt be wasting millions chasing steroid users, we wouldn't be wasting our time on the petit crap.. rant over
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    Quote Originally Posted by raider1 View Post
    Europa Sports Products is a familiar name in the supplements world. The Charlotte, N.C., wholesaler sponsors exhibits at bodybuilding shows like the Arnold Classic and stocks shelves in Gold's Gyms and GNC stores nationwide. But as a recent investigation by The Magazine found, it also keeps online pharmacies well-supplied with designer steroids.


    Acting on a tip, we posed as the founders of a new supplements company -- creating the website ProGymGear.com to back our ruse -- to see exactly what Europa offers. When we informed a sales rep by e-mail that we were "targeting the hard-core gym customer," he didn't ask for a business license -- or any other ID, for that matter. He went right into a pitch for Bulk Tabs, a product of Florida's IDS Sports. Explaining that the supplement is "highly androgenic," he wrote that it is made from "real-deal ingredients" and, with regard to drug tests, that it would "come out false."

    We paid $1,000 for four boxes of Bulk Tabs and two other IDS offerings: Mass Tabs and Sostonol. When we asked for something "similar to Superdrol," a drug whose sale the FDA prohibited in 2006, the rep suggested AnEvol, by Evolution Labs of Florida. "It is [the] identical formula to Superdrol," he wrote. "People are going to go ape s over this."

    The package arrived by regular mail to a post office box we'd set up, and we promptly sent off samples to Aegis Sciences, a Nashville lab that does the drug testing for the WWE. In a standard analysis for 11 known steroid compounds, everything tested negative.

    Was the stuff really drug-free or just able to fool a test, as advertised? That was a question for Don Catlin, the head of LA's Anti-Doping Research Institute. Catlin's deeper analysis showed that one of Sostonol's many-lettered ingredients is chemical code for Madol, a powerful designer steroid originally developed by BALCO chemist Patrick Arnold. Another, Oral Turinabol, was a favorite of the old East German machine. "This wasn't done by someone with a high school degree," Catlin concluded. "Whoever made it knew what he was doing." An industry source to whom the label was shown went even further: "No one is making this stuff in the U.S. The only place you can get it is China."

    In fact, the owner of IDS, Nicol Worrell, did acknowledge in a phone interview that some of his ingredients come from China. But when asked specifically about Sostonol, he retreated, calling it "a small part of our business," before deferring to the manufacturing plant he claimed to contract with. "They handle all of our ingredients," he said.

    Europa's salesman was as good as his word about AnEvol, though. Catlin found it to be directly related to Superdrol and to contain the prohibited synthetic steroid methasterone. A letter from us asking for comment -- sent by FedEx -- to the manufacturer's address on the box went unreturned.

    Eric Hillman, Europa's CEO, didn't return a message seeking comment about our findings either. But he might be happy to know his reps are on top of things. Our contact continues to e-mail us about placing our next order.

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    It's pretty unbelievable how deeply rooted the fear of performance enhancing drugs has become in our culture, especially in younger generations. A buddy of mine was dating a girl who wanted to pursue a career in sports medicine or physical therapy, and she wouldn't let him take creatine, saying she heard it was a performance enhancing drug

    A couple of years ago when I was in high school, creatine was considered pretty universally to be a serious supplement that people should be afraid of. The ignorance of some people amazes me.
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    Vitamin C will make you heyoooge. I hear the DEA is after my Vitamin C source now too (local Wal Mart). Thankfully Wal Mart can crush the DEA, bwah hahahahhaha!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    this entire ****ing situation absolutely disgusts me

    i hope these DEA pricks are patting themselves on the ****ing back for doing such a great service to america. i like how they pointed out the 17 year old kids. only 17 year old kids are buying these steroids? these dip****s have got to be kidding me. i hope the people responsible for this burn in hell for unnecessarily ruining peoples' lives in order to justify their pathetic and unsuccessful jobs.

    11.4 million doses of steroids. federal dosing designates .5ml as one dose (****ing BS). so 11.4 million doses is about 570,000 10ml vials of steroids. who the **** do they think is taking all of that gear?????

    17 year olds and nfl players? do these ***gots realize how stupid they are? there are simply no words to cover all the ways in which i think this is wrong, not to mention they are purposely posing themselves as steroid dealers INTENTIONALLY TO SUSTAIN DEMAND AND ENTRAP BODYBUILDERS.

    wake up *******s, 17 year olds are not using hgh and steroids from steroid boards. find me a ****ing 17 year old that can find this information, send out a western union payment, maintain a private email account, purchase needles, construct a cycle, and give himself an injection while at the same time keeping it hidden from his parents and friends. yea i hope that puts it in perspective.

    these DEA agents are ****ing over 20 and 30 something successful and motivated people conscientious about their bodies. christ, from what i can tell most of us are ****ing IT people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jomi822 View Post
    and do you know what i can do about this?

    ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. TAKE IT UP THE ****ING TAILPIPE.
    It's what happens when government becomes too big. Don't just blame the government, but the idiots of previous generations whom allowed the government to gain this much control over ordinary citizens and become how huge it has become today. Case in point: the 2nd Amendment states that people have the right to bear arms and use these arms as a militia to preserve a free state. But the government dictates how free of a people we are, and if you go against them, you're thrown in prison.

    Do you think the founding fathers would have suspected of the U.S. turning into what it has today, a country full of millions of laws and where one always has to watch one's back due to the government looking over their shoulder?

    This is why we should all vote for Ron Paul in 2008.

    There, that's my political rant for the day
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    Quote Originally Posted by RisingAgainst View Post
    Never existed.. it was a lie from the start.. our founding fathers would go on a shooting rampage if they knew how corrupt and money grubbing our government is and how only people with money get what they want.. if we had a bunch of poor people in the senate/congress and a broke ass president, I'm sure things would change QUICK... we would have a health care plan, we wouldnt be wasting millions chasing steroid users, we wouldn't be wasting our time on the petit crap.. rant over
    If we had a bunch of poor people in Congress and a broke President, you would be paying 90% taxes on everything you earn and purchase.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AM07 View Post
    If we had a bunch of poor people in Congress and a broke President, you would be paying 90% taxes on everything you earn and purchase.
    LOL figure of speech wise ass
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    Quote Originally Posted by AM07 View Post
    If we had a bunch of poor people in Congress and a broke President, you would be paying 90% taxes on everything you earn and purchase.
    my father already pays 50% of his entire income
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    Oh no! I'm eating beef - a proven mass maker!! Come arrest me, DEA. I'm a terrible human being. Shiiiiiii......t.

    This kind of thing is just stupid. They can't figure out which lousy crack dealer on the corner is selling the most smack to babies, so they go after something that sounds a bit more lively. Honestly, wtf???

    Last time I heard, 'roid use was not a gateway to heroine addiction, rape, tax evasion, or cattle rustling. Never touched the stuff myself (in all honesty), but the whole drama over this stuff is pure crap. Sure, ban things that are healthy for us and benefit our bodies. Nevermind that too much broccoli from my local growers may eventually lead to liver damage due to the "safe" chemicals they use on it to kill off insects, fungal infections, and invasive plant species. Nevermind that there's more dangerous stuff in a glass of tap water. Nevermind that I "rage" while driving to work in the morning listening to Mudvayne and some young punk in an Eclipse cuts me off doing about 100 and me in my Intrepid going 80 can't keep up to block his arse...

    IMO, there are bigger fish to fry. I've said this in another post. If you're going to ban anything...BAN FAST FOOD!!!! BAN OBESE PEOPLE FROM LARGE GROCERY BILLS!!!! BAN DRUNK PEOPLE FROM USING A CREDIT CARD AT THE LIQUOR STORE!!!! BAN YOURSELF, CONGRESS - JUST FOR SHEER STUPIDITY!!!!

    And just for laughs, in case they're watching - some trip words for 'em... Infidle, Bmob, Deaht... Filter that, feds. Then stop by my house - I've got an American Flag collection you'll love.

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    Quote Originally Posted by timdull2 View Post
    Oh no! I'm eating beef - a proven mass maker!! Come arrest me, DEA. I'm a terrible human being. Shiiiiiii......t.

    This kind of thing is just stupid. They can't figure out which lousy crack dealer on the corner is selling the most smack to babies, so they go after something that sounds a bit more lively. Honestly, wtf???

    Last time I heard, 'roid use was not a gateway to heroine addiction, rape, tax evasion, or cattle rustling. Never touched the stuff myself (in all honesty), but the whole drama over this stuff is pure crap. Sure, ban things that are healthy for us and benefit our bodies. Nevermind that too much broccoli from my local growers may eventually lead to liver damage due to the "safe" chemicals they use on it to kill off insects, fungal infections, and invasive plant species. Nevermind that there's more dangerous stuff in a glass of tap water. Nevermind that I "rage" while driving to work in the morning listening to Mudvayne and some young punk in an Eclipse cuts me off doing about 100 and me in my Intrepid going 80 can't keep up to block his arse...

    IMO, there are bigger fish to fry. I've said this in another post. If you're going to ban anything...BAN FAST FOOD!!!! BAN OBESE PEOPLE FROM LARGE GROCERY BILLS!!!! BAN DRUNK PEOPLE FROM USING A CREDIT CARD AT THE LIQUOR STORE!!!! BAN YOURSELF, CONGRESS - JUST FOR SHEER STUPIDITY!!!!

    And just for laughs, in case they're watching - some trip words for 'em... Infidle, Bmob, Deaht... Filter that, feds. Then stop by my house - I've got an American Flag collection you'll love.

    Geesh...
    lmfao I was thinking the same thing about banning food while I was at the gym. It enhances performance and muscle hypertrophy omgwtf!!!!!
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    Stupidest part about this is the "yay! We got a gear dealer in Thailand/China. Let's pat outselves on the back!"

    Meanwhile - Osama is still on the loose.

    Someone explain that sh*t to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmh80 View Post
    Stupidest part about this is the "yay! We got a gear dealer in Thailand/China. Let's pat outselves on the back!"

    Meanwhile - Osama is still on the loose.

    Someone explain that sh*t to me.
    Because people think the war on drugs is a war that can be won.

    But what people don't realize is about the only crime committed with steroids is the actual possession. If it weren't a crime to possess them, there would be no crime committed in aquiring them. I don't think I've ever once read, or know someone that has robbed a 7-11 so they could go get some gear.

    And you know, with all the millions of cases of roid rage that have been documented...

    I do however know (of) people that got involved with meth, robbery, etc. Several in fact. Child neglect, spousal abuse all that wonderfulness that follows.
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    The War on Drugs will NEVER be won.

    Anyone who believes it will be is in denial and/or lives in a dream world.
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    Jesus christ this is getting simply outrageous
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish480 View Post
    Jesus christ this is getting simply outrageous
    Unless you're praying.. is that really necessary bro?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Irish480 View Post
    Boo hoo stop preaching to me quaker boy!
    Hey dude I was being polite about it, no need to start this crap.. whatever dude, you're a badass on the internet.. really tough hidin behind a keyboard huh? s'all good.. as you were
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    Quote Originally Posted by aspire210 View Post
    west coast customs is much more strict than east coast, hence most powder guys wouldn't ship west coast so most labs were on the east coast.
    i thought so. seems guys on the east never get seized. getting things international to the west is alot harder. Nice to see someone back this up.
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