[RisingAgainst]

Originally Posted by Distilled Water

Yea alot of independent supp shops do their ordering thru them. I'll have to give my rep a call

Not JUST that.. but w/e... I guess... I'm upset lol

[Distilled Water]

Yea I hear ya, that's s h i t t y for the whole industry. And yea Im with you

[xjsynx]

Originally Posted by Redeemer

From the NY Times, this is the scary part:
The investigation, authorities said, was focused on many United States-based Web sites that sold “conversion kits,” which could be used to convert raw steroid powders into a finished product. Investigators also targeted Internet discussion boards where users learned “how to illicitly use, locate and discreetly purchase performance enhancing drugs, including anabolic steroids. Many of the underground steroids labs targeted in this case advertise and are endorsed on these message boards.”

I wouldn't be surprised if these douchebags have miltiple accounts and are regular posters.

[RisingAgainst]

Originally Posted by xjsynx

You're one of them! GET HIM! LOL!

[xjsynx]

Originally Posted by RisingAgainst

You're one of them! GET HIM! LOL!

I feel like Jack Bauer.

Just don't make take anything to prove I am not a snitch...

[RisingAgainst]

Originally Posted by xjsynx

I feel like Jack Bauer.

Just don't make take anything to prove I am not a snitch...

LOL!!! we'll torture you til you tell us what we wanna hear

[dsade]

Originally Posted by aspire210

west coast customs is much more strict than east coast, hence most powder guys wouldn't ship west coast so most labs were on the east coast.

Stay the hell away from Alaskan customs (coming in from west coast).

That is all I am going to say about it.

[jomi822]

this entire ****ing situation absolutely disgusts me

i hope these DEA pricks are patting themselves on the ****ing back for doing such a great service to america. i like how they pointed out the 17 year old kids. only 17 year old kids are buying these steroids? these dip****s have got to be kidding me. i hope the people responsible for this burn in hell for unnecessarily ruining peoples' lives in order to justify their pathetic and unsuccessful jobs.

11.4 million doses of steroids. federal dosing designates .5ml as one dose (****ing BS). so 11.4 million doses is about 570,000 10ml vials of steroids. who the **** do they think is taking all of that gear?????

17 year olds and nfl players? do these faggots realize how stupid they are? there are simply no words to cover all the ways in which i think this is wrong, not to mention they are purposely posing themselves as steroid dealers INTENTIONALLY TO SUSTAIN DEMAND AND ENTRAP BODYBUILDERS.

wake up *******s, 17 year olds are not using hgh and steroids from steroid boards. find me a ****ing 17 year old that can find this information, send out a western union payment, maintain a private email account, purchase needles, construct a cycle, and give himself an injection while at the same time keeping it hidden from his parents and friends. yea i hope that puts it in perspective.

these DEA agents are ****ing over 20 and 30 something successful and motivated people conscientious about their bodies. christ, from what i can tell most of us are ****ing IT people.

[RisingAgainst]

You're right Jomi.. but the media says it's bad, and that NFL players, pro wrestlers, and other athletes and a ton of high schoolers are the only ones using this sh*t. So what can ya do? honestly. Petitions? ha they get laughed at, then they know who's using even more clearly.

[xjsynx]

Originally Posted by RisingAgainst

You're right Jomi.. but the media says it's bad, and that NFL players, pro wrestlers, and other athletes and a ton of high schoolers are the only ones using this sh*t. So what can ya do? honestly. Petitions? ha they get laughed at, then they know who's using even more clearly.

There is the problem right there.

Ask most people about steroids and they will say they are bad. Ask why, and they will look at you and say, "uuuuh, because they are."

[dsade]

Originally Posted by xjsynx

There is the problem right there.

Ask most people about steroids and they will say they are bad. Ask why, and they will look at you and say, "uuuuh, because they are."

Like that creatine stuff....all bad.

/runs from the crearoid rage

[jomi822]

and do you know what i can do about this?

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. TAKE IT UP THE ****ING TAILPIPE. there is nothing wrong with my lifestyle whatsoever. but because i use steroids my life can be ruined. so much for the sanctity of the law

[RisingAgainst]

Originally Posted by jomi822

and do you know what i can do about this?

ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. TAKE IT UP THE ****ING TAILPIPE. there is nothing wrong with my lifestyle whatsoever. but because i use steroids my life can be ruined. so much for the sanctity of the law

Never existed.. it was a lie from the start.. our founding fathers would go on a shooting rampage if they knew how corrupt and money grubbing our government is and how only people with money get what they want.. if we had a bunch of poor people in the senate/congress and a broke ass president, I'm sure things would change QUICK... we would have a health care plan, we wouldnt be wasting millions chasing steroid users, we wouldn't be wasting our time on the petit crap.. rant over

[Dr Packenwood]

Originally Posted by raider1

Europa Sports Products is a familiar name in the supplements world. The Charlotte, N.C., wholesaler sponsors exhibits at bodybuilding shows like the Arnold Classic and stocks shelves in Gold's Gyms and GNC stores nationwide. But as a recent investigation by The Magazine found, it also keeps online pharmacies well-supplied with designer steroids.


Acting on a tip, we posed as the founders of a new supplements company -- creating the website ProGymGear.com to back our ruse -- to see exactly what Europa offers. When we informed a sales rep by e-mail that we were "targeting the hard-core gym customer," he didn't ask for a business license -- or any other ID, for that matter. He went right into a pitch for Bulk Tabs, a product of Florida's IDS Sports. Explaining that the supplement is "highly androgenic," he wrote that it is made from "real-deal ingredients" and, with regard to drug tests, that it would "come out false."

We paid $1,000 for four boxes of Bulk Tabs and two other IDS offerings: Mass Tabs and Sostonol. When we asked for something "similar to Superdrol," a drug whose sale the FDA prohibited in 2006, the rep suggested AnEvol, by Evolution Labs of Florida. "It is [the] identical formula to Superdrol," he wrote. "People are going to go ape s over this."

The package arrived by regular mail to a post office box we'd set up, and we promptly sent off samples to Aegis Sciences, a Nashville lab that does the drug testing for the WWE. In a standard analysis for 11 known steroid compounds, everything tested negative.

Was the stuff really drug-free or just able to fool a test, as advertised? That was a question for Don Catlin, the head of LA's Anti-Doping Research Institute. Catlin's deeper analysis showed that one of Sostonol's many-lettered ingredients is chemical code for Madol, a powerful designer steroid originally developed by BALCO chemist Patrick Arnold. Another, Oral Turinabol, was a favorite of the old East German machine. "This wasn't done by someone with a high school degree," Catlin concluded. "Whoever made it knew what he was doing." An industry source to whom the label was shown went even further: "No one is making this stuff in the U.S. The only place you can get it is China."

In fact, the owner of IDS, Nicol Worrell, did acknowledge in a phone interview that some of his ingredients come from China. But when asked specifically about Sostonol, he retreated, calling it "a small part of our business," before deferring to the manufacturing plant he claimed to contract with. "They handle all of our ingredients," he said.

Europa's salesman was as good as his word about AnEvol, though. Catlin found it to be directly related to Superdrol and to contain the prohibited synthetic steroid methasterone. A letter from us asking for comment -- sent by FedEx -- to the manufacturer's address on the box went unreturned.

Eric Hillman, Europa's CEO, didn't return a message seeking comment about our findings either. But he might be happy to know his reps are on top of things. Our contact continues to e-mail us about placing our next order.

-- Shaun Assael

Awesome! I love a good journalistic witch hunt. They're always filled with fun facts and terrific points.

[Jet]

It's pretty unbelievable how deeply rooted the fear of performance enhancing drugs has become in our culture, especially in younger generations. A buddy of mine was dating a girl who wanted to pursue a career in sports medicine or physical therapy, and she wouldn't let him take creatine, saying she heard it was a performance enhancing drug

A couple of years ago when I was in high school, creatine was considered pretty universally to be a serious supplement that people should be afraid of. The ignorance of some people amazes me.

[Travis]

Vitamin C will make you heyoooge. I hear the DEA is after my Vitamin C source now too (local Wal Mart). Thankfully Wal Mart can crush the DEA, bwah hahahahhaha!

[Redeemer]

Originally Posted by jomi822

this entire ****ing situation absolutely disgusts me

i hope these DEA pricks are patting themselves on the ****ing back for doing such a great service to america. i like how they pointed out the 17 year old kids. only 17 year old kids are buying these steroids? these dip****s have got to be kidding me. i hope the people responsible for this burn in hell for unnecessarily ruining peoples' lives in order to justify their pathetic and unsuccessful jobs.

11.4 million doses of steroids. federal dosing designates .5ml as one dose (****ing BS). so 11.4 million doses is about 570,000 10ml vials of steroids. who the **** do they think is taking all of that gear?????

17 year olds and nfl players? do these faggots realize how stupid they are? there are simply no words to cover all the ways in which i think this is wrong, not to mention they are purposely posing themselves as steroid dealers INTENTIONALLY TO SUSTAIN DEMAND AND ENTRAP BODYBUILDERS.

wake up *******s, 17 year olds are not using hgh and steroids from steroid boards. find me a ****ing 17 year old that can find this information, send out a western union payment, maintain a private email account, purchase needles, construct a cycle, and give himself an injection while at the same time keeping it hidden from his parents and friends. yea i hope that puts it in perspective.

these DEA agents are ****ing over 20 and 30 something successful and motivated people conscientious about their bodies. christ, from what i can tell most of us are ****ing IT people.