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Old 04-04-2007, 10:47 PM   #1
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Bruce Kneller pleads guilty

Man charged in steroids ring sentenced to two years
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Tuesday, April 3, 2007 - Updated: 04:49 PM EST

DEDHAM, Mass. - A man who once boasted he sent thousands of illegal packages of steroids without getting caught pleaded guilty Tuesday to participating in a steroids distribution ring and was sentenced to about two years in jail.

Bruce Kneller, 38, of Canton, pleaded guilty in Norfolk Superior Court to 45 drug and gun indictments related to the steroid manufacturing and distribution ring, which advertised on the Internet. Judge Judith Fabricant sentenced Kneller to two years and one day. He is scheduled to begin serving his sentence April 23.

When police raided Kneller’s apartment last year, they found more than 200,000 steroid capsules and 10 unregistered guns. Prosecutors said he packaged tens of thousands of steroid pills and shipped them to Internet customers around the country.



According to prosecutors, customers would e-mail Kneller for a price list _ typically $75 for a bottle of pills _ and then would be put in touch with a second man in California for payment instructions. Payments were required to be made in cash wrapped in aluminum foil.

In steroid price lists seized from his e-mail, Kneller boasted that he had ”been around for 7+ years” and had ”passed the 15,000 orders shipped mark” without ”a single one being intercepted” by authorities, prosecutors said.

Kneller’s attorney, Edward Sharkansky, did not immediately return a call seeking comment.

Norfolk District Attorney William Keating said Kneller, a former registered nurse, shipped the steroids with labels marked ”Red Star Laboratories” to make them seem legitimate and safe.

”It is very important that athletes ... who are ordering and taking these kinds of drugs recognize that they are not safe on many levels,” Keating said.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:48 PM   #2
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Man charged in steroids ring sentenced to two years - Local & Regional - BostonHerald.com

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Wow, he was Red Star Labs? And his "chemical wizardry" came from an RN, eh? LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL.
 



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I still can't believe he was running a UL out of his kitchen.
 
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:27 PM   #5
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Where do you think these guys run these labs? You don't need some crazy sterile environment to make anabolic steroid solutions.

Hell, if I were as dumb as one of these guys (who either have no brains or have nothing to lose) sell stuff like this from inside the US I could easily pump out many, many liters of anabolic steroids on a daily basis with about $40 in equipment ($200 if you count the crimper). Big flask + big filter + heat source + a couple of graduated cylinders and voila. Probably around a liter of any given substance in an hour, including putting in vials and capping.

Its just an extremely stupid idea to do such a thing while the anabolic steroids related convictions are the only thing keeping politicians somewhat credible in the eyes of the public.
 



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Where do you think these guys run these labs? You don't need some crazy sterile environment to make anabolic steroid solutions.

Hell, if I were as dumb as one of these guys who sell stuff like this from inside the US I could easily pump out many, many liters of anabolic steroids on a daily basis with about $40 in equipment.
Yes, but think about all the products and companies he's been associated with. He has to have made a pretty penny along the way.

And, what kind of a dip**** runs a UL out of his house (across the street from an elementary school) with a bunch of unregistered guns AND spends his free time posting on bulletin boards about steroids?

I've known a lot of criminals over the years and the successful ones kept nice quiet profiles.
 
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Good points there--he seems to top 'em all as far as stupidity goes. Even posting under his own name all over the place about AAS.
 



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Good points there--he seems to top 'em all as far as stupidity goes. Even posting under his own name all over the place about anabolic steroids.
Stupidity was not a major factor here. BK seems pretty sharp actually. Greed and pride are the root of this fall.

For such a light sentence on over 40 federal charges, you can just imagine he sold out every client he had too. If I were he, I think I'd be more scared to get out of jail in 2 years.
 



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Stupidity was not a major factor here. BK seems pretty sharp actually. Greed and pride are the root of this fall.

For such a light sentence on over 40 federal charges, you can just imagine he sold out every client he had too. If I were he, I think I'd be more scared to get out of jail in 2 years.
Well said. And, good point on the fact that he only got a 2 yr sentence.

I was using the term "stupid" more so to encompass the willingness to run such a practice in the US today, knowing what the risks were and steroid busts are almost gov't priority #1 since its the only thing they can get right. IMO, although I disagree with the steroid laws (and many drug laws, whether or not I use the drugs), it would be stupid to risk changing your life forever for a little extra cash.
 



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Yeah, I still call him stupid regardless how smart he is on the IQ charts. Pride, greed and lack of (not-so)common sense ruined this guys life. The chance of him making it back into the industry again in any reliable and reputible way is slim to none.

You take chances knowing the risks and when those dice get rolled and crap out you have to deal with the consequences.

Hopefully the guy learns his lesson and can recover from it. I don't hate the guy and I can't judge him since I don't know him personally. This hurts the supp industry as a whole though and that's the worst part.
 



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Agreed. I have no disdain for the man...after all, he provided a service many people benefited from
 



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Yeah, I still call him stupid regardless how smart he is on the IQ charts. Pride, greed and lack of (not-so)common sense ruined this guys life. The chance of him making it back into the industry again in any reliable and reputible way is slim to none.

You take chances knowing the risks and when those dice get rolled and crap out you have to deal with the consequences.

Hopefully the guy learns his lesson and can recover from it. I don't hate the guy and I can't judge him since I don't know him personally. This hurts the supp industry as a whole though and that's the worst part.
This will not hurt but help his reputation in the industry.
 
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