Global Warming Man-Made, Will Continue

**Jayhawkk** · 02-02-2007, 11:21 AM

Global Warming Man-Made, Will Continue

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PARIS (AP) - Scientists from 113 countries issued a landmark report Friday saying they have little doubt global warming is caused by man, and predicting that hotter temperatures and rises in sea level will "continue for centuries" no matter how much humans control their pollution.

dannyboy9 · 02-02-2007, 04:44 PM

Unfortunately, no matter what denials people are in, global warming is a pretty present truth.

**DAdams91982** · 02-02-2007, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by dannyboy9

Unfortunately, no matter what denials people are in, global warming is a pretty present truth.

Truth yes... man made no.

Adams

**Jayhawkk** · 02-02-2007, 04:47 PM

According to a bunch of smart people all over the world...Yes, man made. As in the majority of the issues are man made, not all of them.

**DAdams91982** · 02-02-2007, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawkk

According to a bunch of smart people all over the world...Yes, man made. As in the majority of the issues are man made, not all of them.

Don't give human beings so much credit. COULD IT BE... that MAYBE the sun burning hotter the last 100 or so years has ANYTHING to do with it? That study was done by a "Bunch of smart people."

The truth about global warming - it's the Sun that's to blame | Germany | Europe | International News | News | Telegraph

Adams

**Jayhawkk** · 02-02-2007, 04:59 PM

We'll have to wait until next week when the report is officially released and can be picked apart. I can think of more than a dozen good things to come from curbing pollutions. Can you can half as many on why we shouldn't?

**DAdams91982** · 02-02-2007, 05:01 PM

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We'll have to wait until next week when the report is officially released and can be picked apart. I can think of more than a dozen good things to come from curbing pollutions. Can you can half as many on why we shouldn't?

Oh Im not debating on if we should curb pollution.. I love breathing easier as much as the next guy. I was referencing mans hand in global warming. Im with you it ALWAYS better to cut pollution.

Albite Im DEFIANTELY got giving up my V8 Truck that gets oh maybe 13 miles to the gallon on a good day.

Adams

**Jayhawkk** · 02-02-2007, 05:17 PM

I don't think the solution os to halt the world economy and go back to walking to work. I just think slowly putting in standards over the next several decades that will probably not yeild anything in our lifetime but maybe for those long after us.

klugman · 02-02-2007, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Jayhawkk

I don't think the solution os to halt the world economy and go back to walking to work. I just think slowly putting in standards over the next several decades that will probably not yeild anything in our lifetime but maybe for those long after us.

well that's very nice of you...but what is being done to constrain communist china and india? communist china is still using huge coal burning plants that belch out tons and tons of crap per minute.

I don't buy into man-made global warming. There is simply not enough evidence yet.

Moreover, I'm not giving up my 300+ hp mustang gt either.
Too much fun!

riskarb · 02-02-2007, 05:57 PM

You Republidroids are hilarious, truly pathologically-delusional. Yeah, you're right... it's all those damn volcanoes!

klugman · 02-02-2007, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by riskarb

You Republidroids are hilarious, truly pathologically-delusional. Yeah, you're right... it's all those damn volcanoes!

well if you are so smart, prove it.

Also, how do you plan on getting the communist chinese to slow down?

I'll bet you don't drive a f*cking Prius or ford festiva...

"I'm so eco-friendly...I'm better than you..."

**CDB** · 02-02-2007, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by riskarb

You Republidroids are hilarious, truly pathologically-delusional. Yeah, you're right... it's all those damn volcanoes!

Undue Influence

Activists Trying to Shut Down Climate Debate, Skeptics Say -- 01/23/2007

'Scientist' Group's Funding Comes with Liberal 'Strings Attached' -- 01/23/2007

OpinionJournal - Extra

And yes, I know Lindzen once received money from ExxonMobile. As the other links show the groups funding and supporting the 'science' and attack campaigns on the other side of the global warming debate are no more free of political or ideological ties. And I'm sick of hearing about 'big oil' funding and Republican influence. Take a look at who is funding the proponent studies and attack campaigns. Take a look at the GMI report that shows the sheer size of government funding and hilites some of the potential biases and problems this creates. ExxonMobile gives money on the order of millions to try and discredit global warming. Between the federal government and private groups like Greenpeace and the Sierra Club pro global warming scientists and activists receive billions in grants for research and lobbying campaigns, and those people are not superhuman and are not immune from interjecting political influence and ideology into their side of the debate. Nor are they above avoiding asking questions or pursuing certain research avenues because of fear of loss of funding, some of which Lindzen detailed in the Opinion Journal piece. It just doesn't get investigated by many because the press have decided what side of this debate they are supporting, and have assumed for the most part that any and all 'science' funded by the government through universities must be impartial and devoid of any bias.

riskarb · 02-02-2007, 06:18 PM

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well if you are so smart, prove it.

Also, how do you plan on getting the communist chinese to slow down?

I'll bet you don't drive a f*cking Prius or ford festiva...

"I'm so eco-friendly...I'm better than you..."

It's not lost on me that you quickly replied as though you somehow knew that your eco-delusion = Republicon.

Implementation is another, terribly difficult problem. Sticking your head in the sand is an awesome response. Intelligence is a Libertarian trait, thanks. Yeah, we've gotta address the problem rather than make analogs to a time when 400 volcanoes were erupting simultaneously.

I do own a Prius; but I also own an an X5 and a 7-series. Neither of the latter I will buy again. Next time it's a Lexus hybrid.

La la lalala la... everything will be A-OK!

riskarb · 02-02-2007, 06:24 PM

CDB: You're one of the more literate guys here, but damning both sides for playing politics is digressive/tangential. Both sides spend God-awful billions to make their case... which case is more plausible? It's rhetorical, I know what the response will be. Anyway, I value your opinion.

klugman · 02-02-2007, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by riskarb

It's not lost on me that you quickly replied as though you somehow knew that your eco-delusion = Republicon.

Implementation is another, terribly difficult problem. Sticking your head in the sand is an awesome response. Intelligence is a Libertarian trait, thanks. Yeah, we've gotta address the problem rather than make analogs to a time when 400 volcanoes were erupting simultaneously.

I do own a Prius; but I also own an an X5 and a 7-series. Neither of the latter I will buy again. Next time it's a Lexus hybrid.

La la lalala la... everything will be A-OK!

your the one in la-la land.

3 cars and you're calling me delusional. I guess all that nuance and gravitas you posses gives you the right to pollute so much more.

The whole Lexus hybrid thing is laughable as well.

**somewhatgifted** · 02-02-2007, 06:33 PM

I heed the advice of the inteligent, but damn it look outside, the sun doesnt affect the oceans acidity (caused by co2) green house gases accumulating in the atmosphere, or death of rainforests and coral reefs. How could we not have casued this? blaming the sun is just validating a lack of accountability, the problem we caused isnt our fault. Rega