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Old 04-27-2006, 05:07 PM   #1
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Patrick Arnold to the news on BALCO.....

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=2424356
 
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Old 04-27-2006, 05:34 PM   #2
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Not cool.
 
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Old 04-27-2006, 06:27 PM   #3
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hmmmm, wasn't THG legal when this all went down?
 
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Old 04-27-2006, 06:37 PM   #4
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hmmmm, wasn't THG legal when this all went down?
Probably depends on who looks at the law and decides at any given moment. There's the definitive list but also language meant to include substances they haven't thought of yet. I think the rewording on the new ban also took out some verbiage to broaden the scope of the law.

Definitely a good question though. But to the article:

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The indictment against Arnold alleged he trafficked in performance-enhancing drugs that were designed to avoid detection by sporting leagues, including the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency, Major League Baseball and the National Football League.
The sad part is no one is going to bother to ask "Is this illegal?" The really sad part is if it is, few if any will ask "Why is it illegal?" But rest assured, we'll all be safer if Patrick Arnold is in jail, right next to that dangerous ***** Martha Stewart if she violates her house arrest no doubt.
 



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Old 04-27-2006, 07:47 PM   #5
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This article states he is pleading guilty. It fails to indicate to what charge he is pleading guilty. The guilty plea could be irrelevent to any known substance or even sports in general. It could be a zoning violation! ESPN are such lackeys. This is another "leaked" story WTF?

Do you think he will be making designer roids in the joint? I bet the wardens are lining up to get him, so he can enhance their softball teams!
 
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Old 04-27-2006, 10:01 PM   #6
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Re: Patrick Arnold to the news on

I don't think THG would be the item they are going after PA for. More then likely it was Norbethelone (SP?) since it was not legal at the time, and was the original clear according to GAME OF SHADOWS
 
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This article states he is pleading guilty. It fails to indicate to what charge he is pleading guilty. The guilty plea could be irrelevent to any known substance or even sports in general. It could be a zoning violation! ESPN are such lackeys. This is another "leaked" story WTF?

Do you think he will be making designer roids in the joint? I bet the wardens are lining up to get him, so he can enhance their softball teams!
HERE'S ONE WITH MORE DETAIL:

April 27, 2006
Doping - Chemist Said Set to Plead Guilty in BALCO Case
By REUTERS

Filed at 9:56 p.m. ET

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - A chemist accused of supplying steroids to the BALCO lab at the center of a global sports steroid scandal is poised to enter a guilty plea on Friday, according to a court calendar and an official who did not want to be named.

Federal prosecutors charged Patrick Arnold, an Illinois resident, in November with supplying BALCO with THG, a steroid that sports testing initially could not detect.

The BALCO scandal has damaged the reputations of top athletes in track and field as well as American baseball and football, and led to prison sentences for the company's owner, Victor Conte, and for Greg Anderson, baseball slugger Barry Bonds' personal trainer.

Arnold pleaded not guilty to all three criminal counts against him in November, but a calendar item for Judge Susan Illston's federal courtroom on Friday says a ``Change of Plea/Trial Setting'' is planned in the case.

``We're expecting him to plead guilty tomorrow,'' said an official familiar with the case.

The sentence under the plea bargain was expected to be short, as the indictment came before steroid punishments were recently increased, the official said.

According to the indictment, Arnold synthesized THG from gestrinone, a steroid for which he paid thousands of dollars to people in China. The chemist is alleged to have then sent the refashioned substance to the California-based BALCO.

Among the three charges against Arnold are conspiracy to distribute steroids with Conte, as well as the introduction and delivery of THG.

Arnold's case is not the only one still pending related to the BALCO probe.

Seven time Major League Baseball Most Valuable Player Bonds, who told the grand jury he never knowingly used steroids according to his lawyer, is now under grand jury investigation for possible perjury. The legal scrutiny comes as he is just three home runs behind Babe Ruth for second place on the all-time U.S. home run list.

The San Francisco Chronicle reported this week that Bonds' physician, Arthur Ting, and Giants trainer Stan Conte -- who is not related to Victor Conte -- were expected to appear on Thursday before a grand jury looking into the matter behind closed doors.

Reporters at the federal courthouse throughout the day did not see either of the two men.
 
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HERE'S ONE WITH MORE DETAIL:

April 27, 2006
Doping - Chemist Said Set to Plead Guilty in BALCO Case
By REUTERS

Filed at 9:56 p.m. ET

SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - A chemist accused of supplying steroids to the BALCO lab at the center of a global sports steroid scandal is poised to enter a guilty plea on Friday, according to a court calendar and an official who did not want to be named.

Federal prosecutors charged Patrick Arnold, an Illinois resident, in November with supplying BALCO with THG, a steroid that sports testing initially could not detect.

The BALCO scandal has damaged the reputations of top athletes in track and field as well as American baseball and football, and led to prison sentences for the company's owner, Victor Conte, and for Greg Anderson, baseball slugger Barry Bonds' personal trainer.

Arnold pleaded not guilty to all three criminal counts against him in November, but a calendar item for Judge Susan Illston's federal courtroom on Friday says a ``Change of Plea/Trial Setting'' is planned in the case.

``We're expecting him to plead guilty tomorrow,'' said an official familiar with the case.

The sentence under the plea bargain was expected to be short, as the indictment came before steroid punishments were recently increased, the official said.

According to the indictment, Arnold synthesized THG from gestrinone, a steroid for which he paid thousands of dollars to people in China. The chemist is alleged to have then sent the refashioned substance to the California-based BALCO.

Among the three charges against Arnold are conspiracy to distribute steroids with Conte, as well as the introduction and delivery of THG.

Arnold's case is not the only one still pending related to the BALCO probe.

Seven time Major League Baseball Most Valuable Player Bonds, who told the grand jury he never knowingly used steroids according to his lawyer, is now under grand jury investigation for possible perjury. The legal scrutiny comes as he is just three home runs behind Babe Ruth for second place on the all-time U.S. home run list.

The San Francisco Chronicle reported this week that Bonds' physician, Arthur Ting, and Giants trainer Stan Conte -- who is not related to Victor Conte -- were expected to appear on Thursday before a grand jury looking into the matter behind closed doors.

Reporters at the federal courthouse throughout the day did not see either of the two men.
Thanks for the new posting. The way this reads is that Arnold is being charged with altering an illegal substance to make it undetectable. Technically, the alteration created a new, not yet listed and there by legal to posses, substance. They could be charging him with the "intent" to wilfully disrupt the "enforcement of the law". This smacks of plea bargin all the way. Any decent lawyer could have this reduced to leinency, because he fully cooperated with the court. This is almost free advertizing for ergopharm!

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Hopefully this case will satisfy all the "nervous nellys" and we can move on with our supplement enhanced lives!
 
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Old 04-28-2006, 10:55 AM   #9
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I remember seeing both Patrick Arnold and Michael Leahy (MetRx) speak in Sacramento.


These were the days when andro was just beginning to get big.

Arnold came off as a decent guy, not an *******, but confident.

Leahy was the standard doctor jargon spewer that he always is.
 
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I believe one of the charges was something along the lines of "distributing an unapproved drug."
 



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I believe one of the charges was something along the lines of "distributing an unapproved drug."
The thing people forget is, when it comes to unapproved drugs, possession is legal but distribution is not.

However, had he distributed it as a prohormone and used language to describe it as a naturally occurring substance and in the food supply, and thus nutritional supplement, then it would have been legal.

The thing is, he only bothered doing that for stuff he intended to sell on the open market. The really potent stuff he wanted kept secret so that WADA and other orgs wouldn't be aware of it and thus not develop a test for it.
 
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This s--t is a political witchhunt to do something for the public.. All the resources the goverment is wasting on this crap is insane... Let's see gas prices going higher everyday, possible nuclear war with Iran .. meth labs on every street corner almost ..a racially divided nation that is more and more evident.. did I leave anything out.. and they worry about this friggin stuff ... ok ,that's it for my daily rant ..
 



And if there's a heaven and God I hope there is, I know he's sitting up there, drunk as a f-cking monkey and smoking sh-it. Because he left his pains down here
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Could've mentioned global warming too.
 
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t.. did I leave anything out.. and they worry about this friggin stuff ... ok ,that's it for my daily rant ..
The fact that 99% of Americans are poorer now than they were 30 years ago.
 
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This s--t is a political witchhunt to do something for the public.. All the resources the goverment is wasting on this crap is insane... Let's see gas prices going higher everyday, possible nuclear war with Iran .. meth labs on every street corner almost ..a racially divided nation that is more and more evident.. did I leave anything out.. and they worry about this friggin stuff ... ok ,that's it for my daily rant ..
you forgot the almighty tax on healthclub membership in new jersey that is about to be passed despite the fact that obesity is a national epidemic. by all means tax our healthy lifestyle
 
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ya are you serious? Why are they banning stupid **** called "clear" when i know kids who make meth in their kitchen... I mean seriously! Stop spending money on bull**** scandals, set up some more beneficial anti-drug programs (real drugs, that KILL people), and maybe drop the gas tax? Stupid people in their black suits, and gucci ties.

Whats up with this country... i mean seriously, the drug problem is so bad, i wouldnt even know where to start about roids, but i can literally walk across the street and get a ****ing dime bag aite.. this country is going to ****!

doi.. let that one slip.
 
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Brilliant. By banning such garbage as THG, the world can be much better. I already see the sun shining already. Air smells better, the women look prettier, praise government! If you like THG, you hate the flag, Jesus, and last but not least, apple pie.

Thanks for your efficiency folks. That and the War on Terror. Hampering civil rights was a brilliant move and besides, Jesus would have done it.
 
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