Afgan Christian Faces Death Penalty:
03-22-2006 08:56 AM
Afgan Christian Faces Death Penalty:
Afghanistan says fate of convert up to the court
Man could face death penalty if he refuses to return to Islam
Updated: 6:13 a.m. ET March 22, 2006
KABUL, Afghanistan - Afghanistan said on Wednesday the judiciary would rule on a man facing death for converting to Christianity after the United States and three NATO allies with troops in Afghanistan urged respect for religious freedom.
An Afghan judge said this week a man named Abdur Rahman had been jailed for converting from Islam to Christianity and could face the death penalty if he refused to become a Muslim again.
Sharia, or Islamic law, stipulates death for apostasy. Afghanistan’s legal system is based on a mixture of civil and sharia law.
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“We in Afghanistan have the prosecutor who observes the law and the court that executes it. Whatever the court orders will be executed as the court is independent,” said Mahaiuddin Baluch, an adviser on religious affairs to President Hamid Karzai.
The case has raised alarm in the United States and Europe and is sensitive for Karzai.
The president depends on foreign troops to battle Taliban and al-Qaida militants, and foreign aid to support the economy, but also has to take into consideration the views of conservative proponents of Islamic law.
Asked about the international outcry, Baluch said: “Everybody has the right to express their view.”
The United States, which counts Karzai as a key ally in the region, raised the case with visiting Afghan Foreign Minister Abdullah Abdullah on Tuesday, calling on Kabul to uphold Afghan citizens’ constitutional right to choose their faith.
“We hope that the Afghan constitution is going to be upheld and in our view, if it’s upheld, then of course he’ll be found to be innocent,” said Nicholas Burns, the U.S. State Department’s third-ranked diplomat.
Italian Foreign Minister Gianfranco Fini has said Rahman would probably not be executed.
Fini, whose country was one of the four with troops in Afghanistan to speak out about the case, told Italian television late on Tuesday he had indications the Islamic punishment for apostasy would not be imposed on Abdul Rahman.
“From what I’ve been told, and I have no reason to doubt it, the death sentence will not be carried out,” said Fini. He gave no other details.
Campaign to withdrawal Italian troops
Earlier, Italy called in the Afghan ambassador in Rome, two Berlin cabinet ministers spoke out and Germany’s top Catholic cardinal demanded Rahman’s freedom. Canada said it was concerned and urged Kabul to meet its human rights obligations.
Former Italian President Francesco Cossiga wrote to Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi, now campaigning for re-election, and urged him to withdraw Italian troops from Afghanistan unless he won assurances from Kabul over Rahman’s safety.
Abdullah said his government had “nothing to do” with the judicial case, but added: “I hope that through our constitutional process, there will be a satisfactory result.”
The Afghan embassy in Washington had received “hundreds of messages” from Americans about the case, Abdullah said.
“I know that it is a very sensitive issue and we know the concerns of the American people,” he said.
One political analyst in Kabul said the case might hinge on differing interpretations of the constitution.
Afghanistan is a conservative Islamic country and 99 per cent of its more than 25 million people are Muslim. A court sentenced two Afghan journalists to death for blasphemy three years ago but they escaped and sought asylum abroad.
03-22-2006 10:42 AM
Stuff like this makes me really
03-22-2006 10:56 AM
3:12 Yea, and all that will live godly in Christ Jesus shall suffer persecution.
I'd be glad if I were him, but they probably won't enforce the penalty anyway.
03-22-2006 12:11 PM
Yay, this sha'll doth be the first case in this country which sha'll then be ruled in favor of religious understanding and diversity... this will be the mile stone, and ground work so they all may see .. " see how much better this country is"
03-22-2006 12:23 PM
and people say that we are the evil ones......
03-26-2006 11:55 AM
dude.. we are evil... we made a dictator live up to the 16 UN resolutions passed against him... how dare we... we also took that clear pepsi off the market.... we are spreading our walmart empire.. that just gave 150K jobs in china.. uhmm.. ok now this is the WORST.. when the ice cream man drives by.. we yell STOP!!! from the windows of our house to watch him back up and wait.... for no one.....oh yeah we wish for India to hold nuclear abilities but while at the same time we tell Iran they can't. It doesn't matter that India wants to be a part of the IAEA and Iran wants to poop on the IAEA....ok i'm done... and last but not least.. YOUR AVATAR PICTURE MRS GIMPY!
03-26-2006 02:57 PM
religion is responsible for more wars and more deaths over the span of history than i cant count. the funny thing is that islam and christianity both have the same god, ony christians consider jesus divine and muslims consider him only a prophet.
its funny how almost every religion holds some of the same doctrine. "our religion is the ONE AND ONLY way to salvation". conversion of others is of course, a must. its amazing how there are thousands of different religions, ALL EQUALLY CONVINCED OF THEIR OWN LEGITAMACY.
religions can overlap 99% but people are willing to kill over that 1% people dont agree on, even if their opposing religons branched from the same religion. people can kill and torture each other over trivial points in doctrine, fanatical leaders can lead thousands or million in whatever direction they desire based on "faith".
religion may have been necessary to hold people together at one point, and still serves its purpose in this fashion occasionally, otherwise i would say it is one of the greatest evils mankind has ever known
03-26-2006 03:14 PM
The irony of invading Afghanistan but allowing state executions of apostates notwithstanding the feeble pleas of the governer of Kabul.
03-26-2006 03:21 PM
You left out the whole part about the core beliefs of all 3 Abrahamaic religions are held to be blasphemous by each other.
Originally Posted by jomi822
Associating a human being with God, even a prophet like Jesus is the ultimate blasphemy in Islam.
03-26-2006 03:52 PM
yeah! and i bet they don't know how to use the 3 sea shells!
03-26-2006 04:17 PM
MONOtheistic religions, particulary those of the Abrahamic tradition are the cause of 90% of the problem.
Originally Posted by jomi822
Why else would an Evangelical Church adopt an Isreali settlement in the west bank if not to bring about the endtime as they see it? http://www.theocracywatch.org/christian_zionism.htm
Caution opposing viewpoint
03-26-2006 04:28 PM
sure.. i agree.. because that has been the most common view and understand of relgion in the past couple thousand years... the one god theory...
but ask Conan about Krum and his wars..
religion is great.. if you can form a social system that doesn't care about their neighbor ( in some ways) ... America started out to be much like islamic nations.. but now.. we have been taught the don't ask don't tell aspect of life regarding... politics, religion, and sex....so here we are today.
I am shocked and in awe of how many people live in the USA... and how much the majority of the people do not care... that is awesome... one of the best aspects of a form of economic society we have... everyone for themselves.. but.. we get to enjoy what those people bring forth... mostly.. FOOD lol
03-26-2006 04:54 PM
The fact that a religious sect would even have a law like that is ridiculous. Fortunately not all Islamics are so anal. This woman says it best...
03-26-2006 05:24 PM
too bad that woman's head will be removed from her body in 4 days
03-26-2006 05:52 PM
this is yet another example that the threat we are facing is not a "tiny minority of extremists" but emerges straight from the Koran and many "moderate" Muslims themselves. Witness the recent case of the North Carolina Muslim terrorist who was a "normal" college student until he decided he had to kill the infidels.
03-26-2006 10:47 PM
People are the problem, not religion. You can become an extremist about anything. Religion is only a tool used by those already demented enough to cause harm to others.
1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
03-26-2006 10:49 PM
But people made religion....and in seminary i learned that being made by man, religion is flawed... there is no religion in God but only created to help those with lesser minds of God to understand..... to find a place.. to make secure....
03-26-2006 11:08 PM
Originally Posted by MaynardMeek
my thoughts exactly.
03-27-2006 12:55 AM
religion was created by man. it was created as a means of control and serves that purpose today especially in the islamic tradition. organized religion is held in the hands of men, not god, and is as corrupt as the people wielding the power. 1 person can lay down the doctrine for millions/billions with some careful wordplay or perhaps a few "visions". the world would be a better place if organized religion was done away with altogether.
Originally Posted by TheCrownedOne
03-27-2006 03:27 AM
<-- fron the article you posted.
I know that the Qur'an is a legitimate and authoritative holy scripture since it is completely validated by modern science and also mathematically encoded with the number 19 beyond human ability.
I don't know how he can call himself intelligent and then give this statement no how the quran is validated by modern science. what a douchebag...
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