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    Amy Shipley's article = done


    Well, the like the dirty rat she is (we already expected this) Shipley has finished her little attempt at 15 minutes of fame.
    Her "piece" is far from the truth and she did exactly what we knew she would do in regards to bending the truth and spinning lies.

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...101701622.html

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    "One contained a steroid that came to the attention of authorities just two years ago but, until now, was thought to be in only limited circulation"I wonder which one she is talking about? I am going to guess ErgoMax since If I remember correctly, I remember reading about it being essentialy DMT (desoxymethyltestosterone). If I remember correctly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Article
    And this might just be the beginning. Two officials with prominent U.S. dietary supplement companies, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said it is easy for companies to outwit drug testers. "There's an unlimited pool of steroids," one official said. "You could do this for the next 100 years. . . ."
    Well as long as we support the supplement companies and they have the funds to continue, hopefully this statement will hold true... And Congress can't just say "No supplements of any kind can be sold anymore", and that's basically what it will take I think. If they DO go that route, I'll be finding another country in which to reside... To hell with my freedoms being opressed by a bunch of rich lardasses who support burger king and mcdonald's til the death...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magickk
    Well as long as we support the supplement companies and they have the funds to continue, hopefully this statement will hold true... And Congress can't just say "No supplements of any kind can be sold anymore", and that's basically what it will take I think. If they DO go that route, I'll be finding another country in which to reside... To hell with my freedoms being opressed by a bunch of rich lardasses who support burger king and mcdonald's til the death...
    Not a bad idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDB
    Not a bad idea.
    The ignorance that an action of that magnitude would imply is unacceptable in my eyes, from a body governing a country. Maybe I shouldn't say ignorance, but rather greediness? Or perhaps fear / stupidity? I don't know, but it makes no sense why people can support big tobacco, alcohol, and McDonald's when the #1 cause of death of teenagers is automobile crashes, usually alcohol related, and the top killer of middle - older age people is heart disease / lung cancer, caused greatly by fast food (bad diets) and cigarettes... Yet there have been NO deaths linked to AAS, and supplements aren't even in the same sport as steroids, much less ballpark. Just thinking about the way this country works is enough to make me completely enraged sometimes...
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    Not good news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magickk
    The ignorance that an action of that magnitude would imply is unacceptable in my eyes, from a body governing a country. Maybe I shouldn't say ignorance, but rather greediness? Or perhaps fear / stupidity? I don't know, but it makes no sense why people can support big tobacco, alcohol, and McDonald's when the #1 cause of death of teenagers is automobile crashes, usually alcohol related, and the top killer of middle - older age people is heart disease / lung cancer, caused greatly by fast food (bad diets) and cigarettes... Yet there have been NO deaths linked to AAS, and supplements aren't even in the same sport as steroids, much less ballpark. Just thinking about the way this country works is enough to make me completely enraged sometimes...
    You just said what most of us are thinking. I was anyways. Good post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 200wannabe
    Not good news.
    True, but one common underlying trend I've noticed is that Congress usually doesn't crack down until one of the following happens due to the use of these products:

    -Someone dies
    -Some famous athlete is busted for use of one of the products

    Basically anything that would warrant negative media attention. It has taken that for them to REALLY crack down, up to this point, and I'm hoping this continues. If it doesn't, we'll all be on test / dbol and the black market will be making the money, I really hope Amy Shipley realizes that moot point...

    Also, kudos to Author L. Rea for, what I thought was GREAT P.R.:

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    ALRI head Author L. Rea and industry partner Bruce Kneller of Gaspari Nutrition, which has a working relationship with ALRI, wrote in an open letter to The Post on a public Internet message board that "none of the compounds we have developed and currently market are in current violation of any controlled substance act at either the federal or state level. . . . We feel our products are correctly [and legally] marketed to and for educated, intelligent adult men."
    And as long as our chemists have the means to research, I'm going to keep a positive outlook and not let this try to piss me off to much, because we all know what a bitch stress is

    Quote Originally Posted by Article
    "THE MOST POTENT DIETARY SUPPLEMENT EVER DEVELOPED FOR SIZE AND STRENGTH IS STILL LEGAL!" the advertisement says. "Finigenx Magnum . . . was not on the updated Anabolic Steroid Control Act of 2004. We had independent chemists search the 'Act'" from top to bottom for Finigenx Magnum or any ingredients that are in our solution and they came up with ZERO, ZIP, NADA."
    Make ban list --> Research & Develop new products --> Update ban list --> Research & Develop More --> Repeat

    Support your supplement companies and know who's on your side is the best thing we can all do!

    Disclaimer: I am in no way affiliated with any supplement development company of any kind, this is just how I feel about the situation, not an adversitement or sales gimmick
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    Quote Originally Posted by dark_star
    yeh thats true what you said that everyone would be going on proper AAS... This i think would make it worse due to the black market.....Remember america think. Black market= leaking market.

    Also as said on bodybuilding.com as new products develop due to the ban list it will become gradually more toxic
    There may be some truth to this, I can see how some would make that assumption, but aren't there some products under development now that are non-methylated and less toxic than the current ones we have out? I've been going natural (protein only) since july after my first SD cycle so I'm not up on what all supps are out, so correct me if I'm wrong...

    I just tend to scoff at about 90% of what I read on bb.com, I usually go there for a good laugh, that's about it.
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    Nice one-sided reporting, bitch!

    I think the time is definitely up for the products mentioned. If anyone has seen recent Legal Gear ads you would no time is just about up anyways. Those donkies have a new ad in MD that reads "Legal Gear Releases its New Legal Prohormones"

    They are as much an enemy to the industry as the ignorant, biased woman who wrote that story.

    BTW, that open letter was posted at non other than AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dark_star
    Prostanozol is also one remember
    My sig gives a pretty accurate portrayal of what I think about prostan, based on my personal experience...

    However, I've seen a few threads on bb.com regarding mega-dosing prostan @ 400mg/day...

    Sorry for straying off topic btw, don't want to turn this into another "bash bb.com" thread...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf
    Nice one-sided reporting, bitch!

    I think the time is definitely up for the products mentioned. If anyone has seen recent Legal Gear ads you would no time is just about up anyways. Those donkies have a new ad in MD that reads "Legal Gear Releases its New Legal Prohormones"

    They are as much an enemy to the industry as the ignorant, biased woman who wrote that story.

    BTW, that open letter was posted at non other than AM.
    Not surprising... I haven't been around in awhile, so I wasn't aware. But that should've been expected since this is the best bb board I've seen on the net...
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    It's not just the manufacturers that are hosing it up with their ads.
    There's a Nutrition City (local chain) store outside of a large mall a few miles from me that has a huge sign up announcing that they have "legal steroids" for sale.
    Talk about stupidity.
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    Grammar was terrible for someone wanting their 15 minutes as a "Breaking News" reporter. Instances of misused quotations, and lines like "Prostanozoland Ergomax LMG," (meant to be "Prostanozol and Ergomax LMG"). And she does this for a living. Looks like she's not too much better at research.

    Well Ms. Shipley, I hope you're proud.
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    That women is a complete dip****. First of all when did it become the governments job to stop everyone from using a substance just because the 1% that are in sports might use it. What the **** is up with our country and making the majority the minority. We get rules slapped on us to stop the very few out there from breaking the rules. Our country is ****ed up. And whenever i try to explain to others about this, they just look at me. Today its something I love, tomorrow its something the rest love. Eventually everyone will understand; I wonder what will happen when we realize we are trying to be controlled in every way. (at least Ill be able to get a double-cheeseburger when that day comes)
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    It seems like these companies wont mention any names cough LEGAL GEAR, GASPARI !!! have not learned, you cannot advertise in such a reckless manner, in no way am i pointing fingers, but truthfully things like that are in open view are open for discussion. Just as it seems like i can get some serious size from legal supps, they are going to be yanked AGAIN !!! why because PROSTEROIDS are back !!! Damn this pisses me off, and i cannot help but wonder what America has against us "users" who want to look better, and use the means to get the look we want.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mass_69
    Grammar was terrible for someone wanting their 15 minutes as a "Breaking News" reporter. Instances of misused quotations, and lines like "Prostanozoland Ergomax LMG," (meant to be "Prostanozol and Ergomax LMG"). And she does this for a living. Looks like she's not too much better at research.

    Well Ms. Shipley, I hope you're proud.


    Quote Originally Posted by snakebyte05
    That women is a complete dip****. First of all when did it become the governments job to stop everyone from using a substance just because the 1% that are in sports might use it. What the **** is up with our country and making the majority the minority. We get rules slapped on us to stop the very few out there from breaking the rules. Our country is ****ed up. And whenever i try to explain to others about this, they just look at me. Today its something I love, tomorrow its something the rest love. Eventually everyone will understand; I wonder what will happen when we realize we are trying to be controlled in every way. (at least Ill be able to get a double-cheeseburger when that day comes)
    Exactly bro, exactly...
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    ****ing A!
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    i've been wanting to use this for a while:


    seriously, she should've responded to ALR's open letter in the ALRI forum. She didn't want to be proved wrong about responsible usage by responsible people.

    More people have died as a result of OD'ing on tylenol, but should that be made illegal?
    No matter where you go there are going to be people that use products responsibly and people that don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cable626
    i've been wanting to use this for a while:


    seriously, she should've responded to ALR's open letter in the ALRI forum. She didn't want to be proved wrong about responsible usage by responsible people.

    More people have died as a result of OD'ing on tylenol, but should that be made illegal?
    No matter where you go there are going to be people that use products responsibly and people that don't.
    Yet another good point... I think the good people of AM.com should replace all the douchebags in Congress and then take over the job of running the country... It would without a doubt be a more fair, free, and enjoyable place to live anyway... Maybe not the richest in terms of money, but anyone who values that the most has insecurity issues that go much deeper into psychology than I am able to accurately express...
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    How is her article one sided and far from the truth? I fail to see where she demonizes steroids and it's users. The improper labeling section is correct as is practically ever other part of her article. She merely reported the current state of the market and how loopholes are being used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ersatz
    How is her article one sided and far from the truth? I fail to see where she demonizes steroids and it's users. The improper labeling section is correct as is practically ever other part of her article. She merely reported the current state of the market and how loopholes are being used.
    It's one sided because she's just blasting something that is manufactured for the use of responsible adults. Why doesn't she ****ing blast alcohol, it kills thousands more than steroids / prohormones do, I can GUARANTEE that... No one said she's 'far from the truth' as far as the loopholing goes, the issue is why even report on this **** anyway? She's stuck her nose somewhere that her non-associates-degree-having-ass doesn't belong if you ask me. It's like the little ****er in kindergarten that ratted you out for chewing gum in class, that led to the teacher dragging you out in the hall by the ear only to bust your ass in front of everyone. That **** just isnt' cool, bro..
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    Also, if Prostanozol is a steroid (I know technically it is), then they might as well call patty cakes steroids too, because patty cakes would do more for me than ****ing prostanozol did...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magickk
    It's one sided because she's just blasting something that is manufactured for the use of responsible adults. Why doesn't she ****ing blast alcohol, it kills thousands more than steroids / prohormones do, I can GUARANTEE that... No one said she's 'far from the truth' as far as the loopholing goes, the issue is why even report on this **** anyway? She's stuck her nose somewhere that her non-associates-degree-having-ass doesn't belong if you ask me. It's like the little ****er in kindergarten that ratted you out for chewing gum in class, that led to the teacher dragging you out in the hall by the ear only to bust your ass in front of everyone. That **** just isnt' cool, bro..
    Simple reason she went after supps; it's a niche market, very little money being spent to lobby(pay off) gov officials, no organized voice being heard from the companies, and sports stars getting busted for steroids (riding the wave).

    Alcohol and tobacco kill more each year than steroid/ph/etc. ever will, BUT they have $$$$ so no one's going to ban the use of them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhutEvr
    Simple reason she went after supps; it's a niche market, very little money being spent to lobby(pay off) gov officials, no organized voice being heard from the companies, and sports stars getting busted for steroids (riding the wave).

    Alcohol and tobacco kill more each year than steroid/ph/etc. ever will, BUT they have $$$$ so no one's going to ban the use of them.
    My point exactly...
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    Maybe companies like Legal Gear who advertise blatantly like that have a point. Every political movement that gets attention and makes some serious change starts out with an in-your-face attitude. Maybe they should be doing that, and we should be more open about it instead of trying to skulk around like criminals, enjoying what we have until it gets taken away and then just biching about it. I'm starting to like the open attitude. It's nice to say to someone, "Yes, these are steroids. Yes, I've used them. And, since I'm not a monster, not in ill health and not adversely affecting other people or selling to kids, why don't you just mind your own ****ing business?"

    Nothing pisses busy bodies off more than direct challenges to their apparent God given right to run everyone else's life. And when pissed, usually it becomes clear what complete wastes of life they are. Maybe to get our point of view across we should start being more open and blatant about who we are and what we do. If more people realized that their neighbor is doing roids and isn't running around killing people, they'd get a little more clued in to the reality of the situation.

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    Good point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CDB
    Maybe companies like Legal Gear who advertise blatantly like that have a point. Every political movement that gets attention and makes some serious change starts out with an in-your-face attitude. Maybe they should be doing that, and we should be more open about it instead of trying to skulk around like criminals, enjoying what we have until it gets taken away and then just biching about it. I'm starting to like the open attitude. It's nice to say to someone, "Yes, these are steroids. Yes, I've used them. And, since I'm not a monster, not in ill health and not adversely affecting other people or selling to kids, why don't you just mind your own ****ing business?"

    Nothing pisses busy bodies off more than direct challenges to their apparent God given right to run everyone else's life. And when pissed, usually it becomes clear what complete wastes of life they are. Maybe to get our point of view across we should start being more open and blatant about who we are and what we do. If more people realized that their neighbor is doing roids and isn't running around killing people, they'd get a little more clued in to the reality of the situation.

    "We're on gear! We're here! Get ****ing used to it!"
    Great post, as usual CDB...
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    This blows, ALRI has pulled out on its 4-hd compound. Anabolic Extreme has stated it is some what unncertain about the future of its compounds and that they were contacted and informed that this will be making the News tonight.
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    The irony here is that on the side, there was a collagen lip injection ad.

    Once again, another one sided alarmist article. Even better is that next year is elections and you know some ******* in Congress will champion the banning of all supplements to scrounge for a few more votes. It also might be the ticket McCain might use to enter into the 2008 Presidential primaries as well.

    CDB is spot on as usual. There's no collective voice, except for the manufacturers, which are slandered as bad as Hitler.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Experiment
    Even better is that next year is elections and you know some ******* in Congress will champion the banning of all supplements to scrounge for a few more votes. It also might be the ticket McCain might use to enter into the 2008 Presidential primaries as well.
    This wouldn't surprise me at all... Look what effing politics has done to Arnie!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Experiment
    The irony here is that on the side, there was a collagen lip injection ad.
    We could not have planted a greater hypocrisy in their paper.

    If they have a message board for the paper maybe we could get some of our finest defenders of freedom (no, not the marines ) to go give them hell.I'd love to hear them try to respond to CDB or Bow, nevermind Bobo or Dr. D. The only problem is they could probably trace who we are and put our careers in jeopardy just for revealing their ignorance to them.

    I loathe the media
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    Quote Originally Posted by ersatz
    How is her article one sided and far from the truth? I fail to see where she demonizes steroids and it's users. The improper labeling section is correct as is practically ever other part of her article. She merely reported the current state of the market and how loopholes are being used.
    Her article is one sided because she specifically states that these compounds are made for athletes to pass drug tests. That is a blatant lie! These compounds are made because of people like us who want to get past that plateau and reach the next level. I would gamble that 99% of the users here are not pro athletes or semi-pro for that matter. Nobody here is taking these compounds to get the edge in sports!

    Everyone knows why she "reported the current state of the market and loopholes". She did this to "educate" the public on these da-a-a-a-a-ngerous compounds (read as mis-inform). She only reported the side of the story that she wanted to, in order to spin negativity on the legal stuff and feed on the publics fear of AAS. Government misinformation has created a monster larger than anything AAS could make!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magickk
    Yet another good point... I think the good people of AM.com should replace all the douchebags in Congress and then take over the job of running the country... It would without a doubt be a more fair, free, and enjoyable place to live anyway... Maybe not the richest in terms of money, but anyone who values that the most has insecurity issues that go much deeper into psychology than I am able to accurately express...
    Here's the idea. A group of like-minded people, in this case us, should move to a small state where our collective voice would be heard the loudest. There, we would not only have a say in the political process of our state, we would also have the best gyms in the country! Add that to the lower taxes because the state would be paying less for health care, and this would be heaven! Only problem is that convenience stores, fast food chains, and smoke shops would probably go bankrupt. Still, the market for whole foods and supps/vitamins would skyrocket, which would help the local economy. Now if only we could find a state.....
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    i like that idea. But seriously we need to branch together. Look it has been stated before, flame on me if you want but GAYS come out come together and say accept me, and guess what we have shows called Will and Grace, queer eye etc. I am down CDB, we should shout juicer and proud !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eric
    This woman needs to get a better job.
    As a politician?
  

  
 

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