Knew the KGB were still out there lol..Mutation from radioactive fallout should easily be able to count as evolution right?
America just busted 10 Russian spy's yesterday.
America just pushed hard words on North Korea for the sinking of South Korea's ship
Still nothing is being done about Iran's Nuclear development, except, words by the UN in promising repercussions if they don't stop
Seems Cold War #2 /World Ward 3 is getting closer an closer...
I am waiting to see on the news what Russia is going to say about our capturing of their 10 deep cover spys.
oh is that all?I think the only catastrophe will be the War of Gog and Magog predicted in the book of Ezekial. Russia and Iran will attack Israel. God will destroy the attackers in such a way that people will know there is only one true God. And that will start the final "chapter" so to speak for the return of Christ.
So yeah, life as we know it will change.
not sure it is the least biased source, or means what you thinkIts in a book you should check out. The number one best seller of all time.
A book on cars is biased, its gona be about cars. A book on airplanes is biased, it will be about airplanes. A book about the history of man and our creator is gona be about our history and our creator. Ya think?not sure it is the least biased source, or means what you think
this is trueA book on cars is biased, its gona be about cars. A book on airplanes is biased, it will be about airplanes. A book about the history of man and our creator is gona be about our history and our creator. Ya think?
The word says that all nations will come against Israel and. that Gog and Magog will attack. That is Iran and Russia. Iran has made it clear they will attack. And when they do they will be defeated by God. He will do so in such a way that the doubters and unbelievers will know that only God in Heaven could have done it. I hope the Rapture doesn't happen before it because I can't wait to see it.this is true
And if you look at the messianic prophecies (the prophacies made about Christ like 800 years before He came) well- they all came true not only do the scriptures say so (which is enough) BUT HISTORY also records that Christ walked the earth
He said He would change the world
That Father would Be pitted agains son
that his messege would go out to the corners of the earth
It has all happend
None of this will make you believe though
Only you must make that search
I have made it and I am at peace with The Lord
Yeah I can't wait eitherThe word says that all nations will come against Israel and. that Gog and Magog will attack. That is Iran and Russia. Iran has made it clear they will attack. And when they do they will be defeated by God. He will do so in such a way that the doubters and unbelievers will know that only God in Heaven could have done it. I hope the Rapture doesn't happen before it because I can't wait to see it.
Russia and Iran? I don't think we can say yet what world powers are going to be involved. We can speculate though. One things for sure, The devil will gather his forces against God's people and then this will happen.I think the only catastrophe will be the War of Gog and Magog predicted in the book of Ezekial. Russia and Iran will attack Israel. God will destroy the attackers in such a way that people will know there is only one true God. And that will start the final "chapter" so to speak for the return of Christ.
So yeah, life as we know it will change.
Check out a book called Epicenter by Joel Rosenberg. He and others have done research and show that Gog and Magog as referenced are where present day Iran and Russia are. He goes into great detail about the recent history of Israel and how they tie into the Ezekial prophecy. Its very eye opening.Russia and Iran? I don't think we can say yet what world powers are going to be involved. We can speculate though. One things for sure, The devil will gather his forces against God's people and then this will happen.
Ezekial 38: 18" And it shall come to pass in that day, when Gog shall come against the land of Israel, saith the Lord Jehovah, that my wrath shall come up into my nostrils. 19 For in my jealousy and in the fire of my wrath have I spoken, Surely in that day there shall be a great shaking in the land of Israel;
20 so that the fishes of the sea, and the birds of the heavens, and the beasts of the field, and all creeping things that creep upon the earth, and all the men that are upon the face of the earth, shall shake at my presence, and the mountains shall be thrown down, and the steep places shall fall, and every wall shall fall to the ground. "
23 "And I will magnify myself, and sanctify myself, and I will make myself known in the eyes of many nations; and they shall know that I am Jehovah." - ASV
Anxiously awaiting these days!
Wait- when these things don't happen, how are you guys going to feel? i.e. will it make you feel stupid for believing it in the first place? I'm not asking to insult; simply curious.
I'm sorry I won't read anything that anyone profits from. When Jesus preached it was all free. he never asked for money for the information. This guy Joel would be acting as a prophet if he identified specific nations as if he can fortell the future. That can even lie along the lines of spiritism. I mean we don't know him personally. God's word is Free and It holds all the information we need. Time will tell how things pan out. I think it's very important that we don't fall into traps and read things that don't originate from god's word. Jesus warned us of this! Look specifically at Verses 24,25Check out a book called Epicenter by Joel Rosenberg. He and others have done research and show that Gog and Magog as referenced are where present day Iran and Russia are. He goes into great detail about the recent history of Israel and how they tie into the Ezekial prophecy. Its very eye opening.
A book written by flawed men, with more borrowed information than I can shake a stick at. Ya think?A book on cars is biased, its gona be about cars. A book on airplanes is biased, it will be about airplanes. A book about the history of man and our creator is gona be about our history and our creator. Ya think?
proven? by what means?Well the events in the Bible have been proven true. The prophecies foretelling the coming of Jesus have been proven. So there is no doubt other prophecies in the Bible are going to happen in specific events. Can you argue that Iran wants to erase Israel off the face of the Earth? Can you argue the fact that Russia is and has been selling nuclear technology to Iran? Turkey has just turned against Israel after a 20 year alliance. The writing is on the wall.
So no, we won't feel stupid because its going to happen. Just don't miss your chance to accept Jesus as savior. No matter what people may have told you, Hell is a very real place and you don't want to be there. Just be open minded and open hearted to let Jesus into your life. If you ask him to he will prove himself to you. If you are sincere.
So you are saying you've never read anything other than the Bible? I think you missed my point completely. Rosenberg goes into great detail explaining the scripture and correlates the history of the new Israel. He isn't any sort of prophet. I think you are selling yourself short if you don't read any studies or concordances or any other reference material.I'm sorry I won't read anything that anyone profits from. When Jesus preached it was all free. he never asked for money for the information. This guy Joel would be acting as a prophet if he identified specific nations as if he can fortell the future. That can even lie along the lines of spiritism. I mean we don't know him personally. God's word is Free and It holds all the information we need. Time will tell how things pan out. I think it's very important that we don't fall into traps and read things that don't originate from god's word. Jesus warned us of this! Look specifically at Verses 24,25
Matthew 24:3 "And as he sat on the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world? 24:4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man lead you astray. 24:5 For many shall come in my name, saying, I am the Christ; and shall lead many astray."
24:11" And many false prophets shall arise, and shall lead many astray"
24:24 "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders; so as to lead astray, if possible, even the elect. 24:25 Behold, I have told you beforehand."
That would make since if the OT wasn't written foretelling the arrival if Jesus SO many years before Jesus was born to the virgin Mary.proven? by what means?
think logically for a second. Jesus (Yeshua) was a student/teacher of the OT. He would have legitimately known of the prophecy. Therefore it makes it quite easy to say that the prophecies fit.
Sorry....nothing is proven
By name? Not so.That would make since if the OT wasn't written foretelling the arrival if Jesus SO many years before Jesus was born to the virgin Mary.
No I definetly have but I get a bad taste in my mouth if I have to get information from which I have to purchase at a store or online. For me that tells me someone is concerned with one thing $$$. If God wanted the information out he would get it out and it wouldn't cost a thing to those wanting it. Many people are doing things in the name of christ and God for $ and it's not right. I won't be part of it.So you are saying you've never read anything other than the Bible? I think you missed my point completely. Rosenberg goes into great detail explaining the scripture and correlates the history of the new Israel. He isn't any sort of prophet. I think you are selling yourself short if you don't read any studies or concordances or any other reference material.
Not that I put any faith in the idea of doomsday, I have always taken "The End" as a sign that something major will happen... Maybe thats the year will get cold fusion, or some such.if you actually read the actual Mayan prophesy it states that the human race will undego evolution, and life AS WE KNOW IT will end, not that the world is destroyed
If nothing happens? 2012 is nothing....End times could be 200 years away, so.....Could be 2012, maybe wont be, not our time to tell. We will not know.But a question I raise to the people of faith: What will you believe if nothing happens?
I am agnostic, but slowly turning athiest... kind of a sad life, but my beliefs....
If something should occur like the rapture, or something else of religious proportions I can say that I will convert... But until then I will believe in the sun, for I can see the sun, and feel its presence.
not all 'unbelievers' think the mayan prophecy is true. You are an 'unbeliever' too my friend in that you don't believe in evolution or science.My question is to the unbelievers. You say you can't put faith in the Bible but you give credence to ancient Mayan prophecies. How is that any more justifiable?
Especially if you apply the rationale used for not believing the Bible.
I agree zero. I want a wife and kids also before all of the "revelations" start. It makes me nervous cause the way things are looking It doesn't look that way lol......... oh well.....youngandfree , Flaw, your spot on.
As for Iran and Russia, I dont know. That would suck Ebecause I love Russia I respect them more than Americans lol. They can be a brutal and effective people.
As for non-believers and those who attack the faith, they are those seeds strangled by thorns are swooped up by the birds. Sadly this had to come to pass.
As for false prophets, look at what muhammad did. Took swaths of the unreached world and corrupted them, and now the Lords servants are working fervently to break those chains and free as many as they can as the last days are fast approaching.
I am wondering what will be the form the spirit of the anti-christ inherits during his final attacks on the loyalty of Gods children.
As for the Rapture, I duno where I want it to be in the timeline, but out of being human I would like it to wait until I have me a wifey and a couple kids lol.
Undoutably. I completely agree. When you look at the stories in the bible though from the beginning, God has brought judgment on people or nations who have separated themselves from true worship. Religion in itself was created by man. Many people have theories. Most of them involve relgion was created to control people in some way. I agree with that also. The true faith or the true way of life though is not a religion. It's the way God intended us to live. I believe just as he did all through out history he has a plan to get rid of all these religions and people practicing impure worship in his name. Then only true worship will remain. The book of revelation hints to this. Then unlike other times where people screw it up again and start worshiping false gods and idols and forming their own religions they won't be able to because at the battle of armageddon as brought out in the book of revelations this will be the final judgment day.Religion has been and still is the root of so much evil and spilling of blood in the name of a 'god' in this world and it will continue to be.
This is something i hear when i've learnt about the likes of innocent children being struck down with disease and conditions such as leukemia, or a massive natural disaster occurs that kills thousands. That it all happens for a reason. For me that is utter rubbish as there is absolutely no argument whatsoever that such events could result in any positive outcome.Undoutably. I completely agree. When you look at the stories in the bible though from the beginning, God has brought judgment on people or nations who have separated themselves from true worship. Religion in itself was created by man. Many people have theories. Most of them involve relgion was created to control people in some way. I agree with that also. The true faith or the true way of life though is not a religion. It's the way God intended us to live. I believe just as he did all through out history he has a plan to get rid of all these religions and people practicing impure worship in his name. Then only true worship will remain. The book of revelation hints to this. Then unlike other times where people screw it up again and start worshiping false gods and idols and forming their own religions they won't be able to because at the battle of armageddon as brought out in the book of revelations this will be the final judgment day.
another problem i have - each faith proclaims to be the one true religion.
Ultimately I believe Man themselves is to blame for most of the issues.
I have to ask, Does dislike for religion itself turn you away from the bible? I could see how it would. But as I mentioned it brings out in the bible that God does not approve of these men using his name for things he didn't send his son (jesus) to teach. Jesus did not teach war, above all was love.
It is one reason yes, but it's mainly because I don't believe in anything that relies on heresay and i'm afraid there isn't one single piece of evidence of an existence of a god
Matt 22 : 36-40 "Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the Law?" Jesus replied: " 'Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: 'Love your neighbor as yourself.' All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments." - NIV
Micah 4:3 "and he will judge between many peoples, and will decide concerning strong nations afar off: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruning-hooks; nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more. " - ASV
^ God has a plan!
Yeah, I wonder what the reason is for innocent children to be molested, raped, beaten? It does not add up. "Worship me and be saved, or turn away and I will destroy you!" What kind of loving God does that? Oh, the man made one.This is something i hear when i've learnt about the likes of innocent children being struck down with disease and conditions such as leukemia, or a massive natural disaster occurs that kills thousands. That it all happens for a reason. For me that is utter rubbish as there is absolutely no argument whatsoever that such events could result in any positive outcome.
Well there is Satan who was sent to the Earth. He comes to kill, steal, and destroy. Bad things happen to good people because its Satan's goal to destroy all that is good.Yeah, I wonder what the reason is for innocent children to be molested, raped, beaten? It does not add up. "Worship me and be saved, or turn away and I will destroy you!" What kind of loving God does that? Oh, the man made one.
not trying to be a pain, but......Well there is Satan who was sent to the Earth. He comes to kill, steal, and destroy. Bad things happen to good people because its Satan's goal to destroy all that is good.
I think you might be overestimating the amount of proof. However, the OT is a compiled work fo the words of man, much of which were taken from sources far older than the hebrews of the time. Additionally, there are many references to stories that are found in the modern version (as opposed to the original) of the NT which were also borrowed.The thing about the bible is there are documented dates from when it was written. All the way from genesis to revelation. You have hundreds of years in between and the bible flows from beginning to end. Every piece fits together. The cities, the empires have all proven to exist. There is no way that men alone could create a book like this with soo many years in between. It would be impossible. There exists no other book like it. Almighty intervention preserved it's message. That is why one can say that it's author is God even though it was written by imperfect men.