You are not safe from prosecution, Even on the internet!!

[Mulletsoldier]

Ever been stalked by a psycho girlfriend? I just change emails/filter them, block on IM, and screen phone calls.

I have! However, I am a confident, self-assured and rational 23 year-old man; this girl was a 13 year old girl, and emotional matters are obviously much more convoluted. I see your underlying premise, and in fact agree with it; however, I feel the pretense here is different enough that more severe - or, in this case, any penalty at all - penalties are warranted.

Let us assume that this woman was of average intelligence and/or knowledge for her age - this would include intellectual intelligence, but also emotional intelligence with a vastly increased experiential base for manipulation and navigating social situations, with an adjunct understanding of the 'scope' of social situations being attached with such intelligence. Now, let us assume that this thirteen year-old girl is equipped with all of these same skills, of average level, for a thirteen year-old girl. What I am seeking to prove, here, is that this was not a 'level emotional playing field' - so to speak. This woman was not only aware that her actions could possibly cause irreparable harm to this young woman, but sought to increase that harm as much as possible as her primary goal!

[metalman302]

Legally they cannot charge her for the suicide in any way.

What they are charging her for is violating the Myspace TOS agreement. Whatever the max is, I'm sure she'll get it.

[Xodus]

I have! However, I am a confident, self-assured and rational 23 year-old man; this girl was a 13 year old girl, and emotional matters are obviously much more convoluted. I see your underlying premise, and in fact agree with it; however, I feel the pretense here is different enough that more severe - or, in this case, any penalty at all - penalties are warranted.

Let us assume that this woman was of average intelligence and/or knowledge for her age - this would include intellectual intelligence, but also emotional intelligence with a vastly increased experiential base for manipulation and navigating social situations, with an adjunct understanding of the 'scope' of social situations being attached with such intelligence. Now, let us assume that this thirteen year-old girl is equipped with all of these same skills, of average level, for a thirteen year-old girl. What I am seeking to prove, here, is that this was not a 'level emotional playing field' - so to speak. This woman was not only aware that her actions could possibly cause irreparable harm to this young woman, but sought to increase that harm as much as possible as her primary goal!

We should then require an emotional test prior to joining any internet forum or social interaction website, regardless of age. I do not want my harsh words to land me in jail. Even though I agree she was 13yo, she also thought she was talking to a 13yo. While it was manipulative, it was also, in her eyes, just a 'boy'. Irreparable harm? Hmm. Being dumped in your early teens sucks, happens to everyone, but irreparable? tough leap I think. Like I said, I'm not trying to excuse this lady from what she did, but I could call 1000 people here names and if someone takes it the wrong way and kills themselves and thinks I am somehow responsible for their death, they are delusional.

[Xodus]

Legally they cannot charge her for the suicide in any way.

What they are charging her for is violating the Myspace TOS agreement. Whatever the max is, I'm sure she'll get it.

Too bad she won't be offered a cushy IT security job when she gets out like all the other 'hackers' do...

[Omen]

I have! However, I am a confident, self-assured and rational 23 year-old man; this girl was a 13 year old girl, and emotional matters are obviously much more convoluted. I see your underlying premise, and in fact agree with it; however, I feel the pretense here is different enough that more severe - or, in this case, any penalty at all - penalties are warranted.

Let us assume that this woman was of average intelligence and/or knowledge for her age - this would include intellectual intelligence, but also emotional intelligence with a vastly increased experiential base for manipulation and navigating social situations, with an adjunct understanding of the 'scope' of social situations being attached with such intelligence. Now, let us assume that this thirteen year-old girl is equipped with all of these same skills, of average level, for a thirteen year-old girl. What I am seeking to prove, here, is that this was not a 'level emotional playing field' - so to speak. This woman was not only aware that her actions could possibly cause irreparable harm to this young woman, but sought to increase that harm as much as possible as her primary goal!

All that can be summed up in 4 words: LIFE IS NOT FAIR.

[metalman302]

Speaking of suicide and prosecution, have you guys heard about all the commotion on the other site yesterday? And coincidentally that site is down today. Hmmmmmmm....................

[Xodus]

Speaking of suicide and prosecution, have you guys heard about all the commotion on the other site yesterday? And coincidentally that site is down today. Hmmmmmmm....................

????

[Mulletsoldier]

We should then require an emotional test prior to joining any internet forum or social interaction website, regardless of age. I do not want my harsh words to land me in jail. Even though I agree she was 13yo, she also thought she was talking to a 13yo. While it was manipulative, it was also, in her eyes, just a 'boy'. Irreparable harm? Hmm. Being dumped in your early teens sucks, happens to everyone, but irreparable? tough leap I think. Like I said, I'm not trying to excuse this lady from what she did, but I could call 1000 people here names and if someone takes it the wrong way and kills themselves and thinks I am somehow responsible for their death, they are delusional.

As I have said, all your premises are warranted within the proper context. However, I feel, this is not the proper context. Being ousted as a teen does suck; however, being manipulated by a middle-aged woman with deliberate malice is not the same situation, agreed?

[metalman302]

????

I guarantee you it will be all over the news soon the next day or two. I will just start a new thread.

[Mulletsoldier]

I believe there is one up in the Anonymous thread.

[metalman302]

Oh ok here: http://anabolicminds.com/forum/anabo...ml#post1661535

[Xodus]

[Omen]

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Xodus again.

[nowler]

Because an emotionally unstable girl killed herself?


So then, lets say that this was in fact a real boy that dumped her, she kills her self, should he be tried for something?

Give me a break.




Yes, violating the ToS, sure, its a stretch, but that would be as far as it should go.

Are you for real???
Grow up!!

Ye if a real boy broke up with her, that would just be unfortunate BUT it wasnt a real boy, IT WAS A GROWN WOMAN and she DILEBRATLY set out to destroy the lil gal's mental state.
She should rot in jail for being such an evil b!tch

[Xodus]

Are you for real???
Grow up!!

Ye if a real boy broke up with her, that would just be unfortunate BUT it wasnt a real boy, IT WAS A GROWN WOMAN and she DILEBRATLY set out to destroy the lil gal's mental state.
She should rot in jail for being such an evil b!tch

Look, I agree that the woman was a nut job. BUT, someone CANNOT make you FEEL anything. They can say mean and hurtful things, but it is up to you and how you internalize them.

Ok, another scenario, what if this were a bunch 'mean girls' in her school that did this, not a woman?

To me, its sort of like the TV or radio, don't like what's on? Change the channel. No one forced this girl to sign into her MySpace/IM/Email. She was unstable emotionally. Whether that was due to adolescence or whatever. She was obviously ill-equipped to deal with what will come later in her adult years...

[crader]

Look, I agree that the woman was a nut job. BUT, someone CANNOT make you FEEL anything. They can say mean and hurtful things, but it is up to you and how you internalize them.

Ok, another scenario, what if this were a bunch 'mean girls' in her school that did this, not a woman?

To me, its sort of like the TV or radio, don't like what's on? Change the channel. No one forced this girl to sign into her MySpace/IM/Email. She was unstable emotionally. Whether that was due to adolescence or whatever. She was obviously ill-equipped to deal with what will come later in her adult years...

I agree to some extent, but an adult has the age and experience to be cruel way beyond what someone of the same age group would be. As well as the fact that something had to be wrong with the adult to be doing that to a child in the first place. An adult knows better and all actions have a consequence. Nobody has the right to bully and hurt someone else.