McCain linked to private group in Iran-Contra case

[Turd]

What about Sarah Palin's husband membership in a terrorist organization? Or McCain buddy advocating violence against government officials?

[RobInKuwait]

It has always been that way, it's just nowadays we are saturated with too much "news". Paris Hilton blows a snot bubble and the post has it front page and we have to see it on TMZ 50 times.

The "Max Headrooms" on Fox have a stated agenda against Barack Obama, the talking heads on MSNBC appear to have an agenda for Barack Obama.
People listen to who they feel is credible with credibility being in the eye of the beholder so "news" to you is non-issue news to me. And so it goes.

The true issues that Americans are facing day in and day out are what matters and John McCain has not resonated with the people he's trying to get to and Barack Obama , in spite of all the mud that's been slung at him (brushing his shoulders off) has.
I stated in another thread that John McCain regained some of my respect for him in the way he went after the issues in the debate the other night rather than toilet politics. I still think that he inside is a man of principle, the boys now pulling his strings, not so much.



:bruce3:

Which talking heads on Fox? Obviously Hannity. Nobody is arguing that, but he's on there with Colmes, whose quite the Obamaniac. Not O'Reilly. Those are the ones that I watch.

I really thought he should have brought up the Ayers and dwelled on Fannie and Freddie a more during the debate.

[Dwight Schrute]

Was not aware of that. Every story I've seen on cnn.com has been defending Obama and saying Ayers isn't relevant.

To date, this is the most thorough examination of the connection.

By STANLEY KURTZ

Despite having authored two autobiographies, Barack Obama has never written about his most important executive experience. From 1995 to 1999, he led an education foundation called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge (CAC), and remained on the board until 2001. The group poured more than $100 million into the hands of community organizers and radical education activists.


The CAC was the brainchild of Bill Ayers, a founder of the Weather Underground in the 1960s. Among other feats, Mr. Ayers and his cohorts bombed the Pentagon, and he has never expressed regret for his actions. Barack Obama's first run for the Illinois State Senate was launched at a 1995 gathering at Mr. Ayers's home.

The Obama campaign has struggled to downplay that association. Last April, Sen. Obama dismissed Mr. Ayers as just "a guy who lives in my neighborhood," and "not somebody who I exchange ideas with on a regular basis." Yet documents in the CAC archives make clear that Mr. Ayers and Mr. Obama were partners in the CAC. Those archives are housed in the Richard J. Daley Library at the University of Illinois at Chicago and I've recently spent days looking through them.

The Chicago Annenberg Challenge was created ostensibly to improve Chicago's public schools. The funding came from a national education initiative by Ambassador Walter Annenberg. In early 1995, Mr. Obama was appointed the first chairman of the board, which handled fiscal matters. Mr. Ayers co-chaired the foundation's other key body, the "Collaborative," which shaped education policy.

The CAC's basic functioning has long been known, because its annual reports, evaluations and some board minutes were public. But the Daley archive contains additional board minutes, the Collaborative minutes, and documentation on the groups that CAC funded and rejected. The Daley archives show that Mr. Obama and Mr. Ayers worked as a team to advance the CAC agenda.

One unsettled question is how Mr. Obama, a former community organizer fresh out of law school, could vault to the top of a new foundation? In response to my questions, the Obama campaign issued a statement saying that Mr. Ayers had nothing to do with Obama's "recruitment" to the board. The statement says Deborah Leff and Patricia Albjerg Graham (presidents of other foundations) recruited him. Yet the archives show that, along with Ms. Leff and Ms. Graham, Mr. Ayers was one of a working group of five who assembled the initial board in 1994. Mr. Ayers founded CAC and was its guiding spirit. No one would have been appointed the CAC chairman without his approval.

The CAC's agenda flowed from Mr. Ayers's educational philosophy, which called for infusing students and their parents with a radical political commitment, and which downplayed achievement tests in favor of activism. In the mid-1960s, Mr. Ayers taught at a radical alternative school, and served as a community organizer in Cleveland's ghetto.

In works like "City Kids, City Teachers" and "Teaching the Personal and the Political," Mr. Ayers wrote that teachers should be community organizers dedicated to provoking resistance to American racism and oppression. His preferred alternative? "I'm a radical, Leftist, small 'c' communist," Mr. Ayers said in an interview in Ron Chepesiuk's, "Sixties Radicals," at about the same time Mr. Ayers was forming CAC.

CAC translated Mr. Ayers's radicalism into practice. Instead of funding schools directly, it required schools to affiliate with "external partners," which actually got the money. Proposals from groups focused on math/science achievement were turned down. Instead CAC disbursed money through various far-left community organizers, such as the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (or Acorn).

Mr. Obama once conducted "leadership training" seminars with Acorn, and Acorn members also served as volunteers in Mr. Obama's early campaigns. External partners like the South Shore African Village Collaborative and the Dual Language Exchange focused more on political consciousness, Afrocentricity and bilingualism than traditional education. CAC's in-house evaluators comprehensively studied the effects of its grants on the test scores of Chicago public-school students. They found no evidence of educational improvement.

CAC also funded programs designed to promote "leadership" among parents. Ostensibly this was to enable parents to advocate on behalf of their children's education. In practice, it meant funding Mr. Obama's alma mater, the Developing Communities Project, to recruit parents to its overall political agenda. CAC records show that board member Arnold Weber was concerned that parents "organized" by community groups might be viewed by school principals "as a political threat." Mr. Obama arranged meetings with the Collaborative to smooth out Mr. Weber's objections.

The Daley documents show that Mr. Ayers sat as an ex-officio member of the board Mr. Obama chaired through CAC's first year. He also served on the board's governance committee with Mr. Obama, and worked with him to craft CAC bylaws. Mr. Ayers made presentations to board meetings chaired by Mr. Obama. Mr. Ayers spoke for the Collaborative before the board. Likewise, Mr. Obama periodically spoke for the board at meetings of the Collaborative.

The Obama campaign notes that Mr. Ayers attended only six board meetings, and stresses that the Collaborative lost its "operational role" at CAC after the first year. Yet the Collaborative was demoted to a strictly advisory role largely because of ethical concerns, since the projects of Collaborative members were receiving grants. CAC's own evaluators noted that project accountability was hampered by the board's reluctance to break away from grant decisions made in 1995. So even after Mr. Ayers's formal sway declined, the board largely adhered to the grant program he had put in place.

Mr. Ayers's defenders claim that he has redeemed himself with public-spirited education work. That claim is hard to swallow if you understand that he views his education work as an effort to stoke resistance to an oppressive American system. He likes to stress that he learned of his first teaching job while in jail for a draft-board sit-in. For Mr. Ayers, teaching and his 1960s radicalism are two sides of the same coin.

Mr. Ayers is the founder of the "small schools" movement (heavily funded by CAC), in which individual schools built around specific political themes push students to "confront issues of inequity, war, and violence." He believes teacher education programs should serve as "sites of resistance" to an oppressive system. (His teacher-training programs were also CAC funded.) The point, says Mr. Ayers in his "Teaching Toward Freedom," is to "teach against oppression," against America's history of evil and racism, thereby forcing social transformation.

The Obama campaign has cried foul when Bill Ayers comes up, claiming "guilt by association." Yet the issue here isn't guilt by association; it's guilt by participation. As CAC chairman, Mr. Obama was lending moral and financial support to Mr. Ayers and his radical circle. That is a story even if Mr. Ayers had never planted a single bomb 40 years ago.

[Fastone]

Which talking heads on Fox? Obviously Hannity. Nobody is arguing that, but he's on there with Colmes, whose quite the Obamaniac. Not O'Reilly. Those are the ones that I watch.

I really thought he should have brought up the Ayers and dwelled on Fannie and Freddie a more during the debate.

I hate to say this but Mr. Colmes is set up as the Washington Generals to Hannity's Harlem Globetrotters as Hannity's mouth is MUCH bigger and are you sure about O'Reilly, I beg to differ. I'll give you Olberman and Maddow on MSNBC other than that, it's open to interpretation imo.

:bruce3:

[Turd]

I hate to say this but Mr. Colmes is set up as the Washington Generals to Hannity's Harlem Globetrotters

Best anlogy ever.

[Dwight Schrute]

I hate to say this but Mr. Colmes is set up as the Washington Generals to Hannity's Harlem Globetrotters as Hannity's mouth is MUCH bigger and are you sure about O'Reilly, I beg to differ. I'll give you Olberman and Maddow on MSNBC other than that, it's open to interpretation imo.

:bruce3:

Chris Matthews worked for Tip O'neill...Obama's speeches give him a "sensation up his leg". David Gregory is the only thing close to objective from 5pm-1am since they show Hardball and Countdown twice.

You can count the number of Republicans they have on with hand hand....its Pat Buchanan. That's it. In 6 hours. Every day.

Its not even close and to state otherwise is absurd. Fox leans to the right. CNN (aka Clinton News Network for a reason) leans to the left. MSNBC is off the charts. They freely admit it.

[Fastone]

Chris Matthews worked for Tip O'neill...Obama's speeches give him a "sensation up his leg". David Gregory is the only thing close to objective from 5pm-1am since they show Hardball and Countdown twice.

You can count the number of Republicans they have on with hand hand....its Pat Buchanan. That's it. In 6 hours. Every day.

Its not even close and to state otherwise is absurd. Fox leans to the right. CNN (aka Clinton News Network for a reason) leans to the left. MSNBC is off the charts. They freely admit it.

Once again, your opinion

:bruce3: