Milas' Needtobuildmuscle Contest Log. NeedToBuildMuscle & MrSupps

[Milas]

Okay here are my current (irresponsible) plans of attack:

Week 1: Boladrol 4mg
Week 2: Boladrol 4mg, Ostarine 12.5mg
Week 3: Ostarine 12.5mg, clomid 50mg, Phytoserm 347
Week 4: Ostarine 12.5mg, clomid 50mg, Phytoserm 347
Week 5: Ostarine 12.5mg, Phytoserm 347
Week 6: Ostarine 12.5mg, Phytoserm 347
Week 7: Ostarine 12.5mg, SD 10mg, 11oxo 550mg, Fura 297mg
Week 8: SD 20mg, 11oxo 550mg, Fura 297mg
Week 9: SD 20mg, Epi/Tren 30/90, 11oxo 550mg, Fura 297mg
Week 10: Epi/tren 30/90, 11oxo 550mg, Fura 297mg
Week 11: Epi/tren 30/90, 11oxo 550mg, Fura 297mg
Week 12: Epi/tren 30/90, 11oxo 550mg, Fura 297mg

PCT for the next 6 months!!!

Comments, suggestions, liver donors?

[Legacyfighter]

Upon a little more investigation in studies on squat stance, it appears that it doesn't matter what stance you use (according to electrical impulse graphing), just go heavy to increase activity. The only thing a wider stance did was increase glute activity. So, I guess it's just back to heavy squats!!!

Thanks for the ideas!

I've actually done research on this as well. Studies also say that there is no preferential utilization of the VMO during any part of the range of motion throughout a leg ext. If you try top half partials in a leg ext machine, you WILL feel preferential utilization of the VMO. Likewise if you do partials in the bottom range of motion you will feel it in your sweep area.

If you take biomechanics into account, you will see that going wider (which causes you to sit back more) will increase ham string activity and adductor activity. If you close stance high bar squats, feet SLIGHTLY turned out and you make sure to push your knees out on every rep, you will develop more quad sweep, and when you go rock bottom it will increase glute activity as well.

The muscle that is stretched the most is generally worked the most. Hence wide squats activating adductors more. Deep squats will activate glutes because of the huge stretch in the bottom. having your stance close together makes the distance slightly longer on the outer muscles (as opposed to wide stance) of the quad, placing more emphasis on them. I just wrote a paper about this in my structural kinesiology class, lol.

[Milas]

Thanks, very interesting... I'll try a mix of squat stances and see what works.

[MrKleen73]

Yeah those studies are based on an average from many different body types and leverages. The hips, pelvice tilt and muscle insertion points have more of an effect on how a stance hits your body. It is definitely the biomechanics that make the difference.

Like DW gets earlier quad activation going wide. I can not get my quads sore at all going wide but my adductors, glutes and hamstrings will be obliterated. Also there is too much attention to the way the feet are pointing. It is not the feet that change the angle to hit a certain part of the leg with a pressing or extension movement. It is the position of the femur in the hip socket. Rotate the femur inward or outward at the HIP to get this to actually work. Many people will turn their entire leg when turning their feet out so it works but a lot of times I see people just turn their feet inward or outward without rotating the leg at the hip. It is the hip that really effects the biomechanics involved with targeting the muscle.

[thebigt]

Okay here are my current (irresponsible) plans of attack:

Week 1: Boladrol 4mg
Week 2: Boladrol 4mg, Ostarine 12.5mg
Week 3: Ostarine 12.5mg, clomid 50mg, Phytoserm 347
Week 4: Ostarine 12.5mg, clomid 50mg, Phytoserm 347
Week 5: Ostarine 12.5mg, Phytoserm 347
Week 6: Ostarine 12.5mg, Phytoserm 347
Week 7: Ostarine 12.5mg, SD 10mg, 11oxo 550mg, Fura 297mg
Week 8: SD 20mg, 11oxo 550mg, Fura 297mg
Week 9: SD 20mg, Epi/Tren 30/90, 11oxo 550mg, Fura 297mg
Week 10: Epi/tren 30/90, 11oxo 550mg, Fura 297mg
Week 11: Epi/tren 30/90, 11oxo 550mg, Fura 297mg
Week 12: Epi/tren 30/90, 11oxo 550mg, Fura 297mg

PCT for the next 6 months!!!

Comments, suggestions, liver donors?

great caesars ghost....as perry white would say

[DreamWeaver]

Yeah those studies are based on an average from many different body types and leverages. The hips, pelvice tilt and muscle insertion points have more of an effect on how a stance hits your body. It is definitely the biomechanics that make the difference.

Like DW gets earlier quad activation going wide. I can not get my quads sore at all going wide but my adductors, glutes and hamstrings will be obliterated. Also there is too much attention to the way the feet are pointing. It is not the feet that change the angle to hit a certain part of the leg with a pressing or extension movement. It is the position of the femur in the hip socket. Rotate the femur inward or outward at the HIP to get this to actually work. Many people will turn their entire leg when turning their feet out so it works but a lot of times I see people just turn their feet inward or outward without rotating the leg at the hip. It is the hip that really effects the biomechanics involved with targeting the muscle.

Bottom line though... I have my latina's going wide and deep... no pun intended

[Legacyfighter]

Kleen: Another problem is that EMG studies don't work well at all with dynamic movements. They work great for isometrics though. They try to fix this by actually inserting a probe into the muscle, but it doesn't change the results much. You made several good points in your last post. All those things play a role in muscle activation.

[Milas]

great caesars ghost....as perry white would say

Yeah, it's a very aggressive dosing schedule, but I'm uber-competitive... It's really a double edge sword for me!

[Milas]

Yeah those studies are based on an average from many different body types and leverages. The hips, pelvice tilt and muscle insertion points have more of an effect on how a stance hits your body. It is definitely the biomechanics that make the difference.

Like DW gets earlier quad activation going wide. I can not get my quads sore at all going wide but my adductors, glutes and hamstrings will be obliterated. Also there is too much attention to the way the feet are pointing. It is not the feet that change the angle to hit a certain part of the leg with a pressing or extension movement. It is the position of the femur in the hip socket. Rotate the femur inward or outward at the HIP to get this to actually work. Many people will turn their entire leg when turning their feet out so it works but a lot of times I see people just turn their feet inward or outward without rotating the leg at the hip. It is the hip that really effects the biomechanics involved with targeting the muscle.

So you're telling me "It's all in the hips?"

[DreamWeaver]

So you're telling me "It's all in the hips?"

Push those hips forward and stay back on your heels and the world will turn baby... do not move your knees forward ... a little is ok cuz it happens to almost everybody but fight it!!

[thebigt]

Yeah, it's a very aggressive dosing schedule, but I'm uber-competitive... It's really a double edge sword for me!

you should be leaping tall building at a single bound.................if you don't explode first, lol.


if you can deal with the lethargy and sides, not get injured, and keep hitting it hard in the gym....then i think you are gonna get very huge. running the sd after boladrol should take care of the wetness of the boladrol, and get you cut up pretty decent. diet is gonna be the determining factor of just getting huge or getting huge and ripped.

[Milas]

you should be leaping tall building at a single bound.................if you don't explode first, lol.


if you can deal with the lethargy and sides, not get injured, and keep hitting it hard in the gym....then i think you are gonna get very huge. running the sd after boladrol should take care of the wetness of the boladrol, and get you cut up pretty decent. diet is gonna be the determining factor of just getting huge or getting huge and ripped.

I have some AMS 4-ad and Dermacrine for lethargy. Injuries, I really hope to avoid. And the gym will get hit!!!

Yeah, I'm trying to get a diet from TwinTowers over at MFF. He did it for contest prep, and got ridiculously shredded. It involves a lot of eggs, so my poor wife will be in for a rotten time!!!

[VolcomX311]

I have some AMS 4-ad and Dermacrine for lethargy. Injuries, I really hope to avoid. And the gym will get hit!!!

Yeah, I'm trying to get a diet from TwinTowers over at MFF. He did it for contest prep, and got ridiculously shredded. It involves a lot of eggs, so my poor wife will be in for a rotten time!!!

that's when you pull out quotes on her, "for better or worse honey....."

[thebigt]

that's when you pull out quotes on her, "for better or worse honey....."

just so he doesn't pull the sheets over her head and let er rip.

[Milas]

She keeps asking "so, when does it get better?"

[JudoJosh]

just so he doesn't pull the sheets over her head and let er rip.

[RickRock13]

I have some AMS 4-ad and Dermacrine for lethargy. Injuries, I really hope to avoid. And the gym will get hit!!!

Yeah, I'm trying to get a diet from TwinTowers over at MFF. He did it for contest prep, and got ridiculously shredded. It involves a lot of eggs, so my poor wife will be in for a rotten time!!!

I'm hearing that Dermacrine helps a lot for lethargy so its good you have that. I have some on the way too that will hopefully help with lethargy from running Beastdrol.

[reecew]

Im also going to give the dermacrine a shot on a SD cycle. Im hoping it helps, ive only ran dermacrine once before stacked with natadrol so really no shotdown issues needing to be addressed there. I just hope it makes it managable is all.

[Milas]

My problem with Dermacrine is it makes my chest/shoulders/scrotum break out if I use it for more than a few days. I think it's contact dermatitis, some allergy I have with something in it. Really sucks because I wanted to use the base solution to make a topical 11-oxo, but that isn't happening anymore.

However, I solved the dermacrine problem by applying it to tops of feet, thighs, and abs. While not the ideal locations, I don't seem to develop a rash there. Odd, huh? It might be I didn't allow enough time to dry on my chest/shoulders before putting on clothes, but I always thought I did.

Either way, hope the Dermacrine treats y'all well!

[Milas]

Day 3:

So I've been taking Boladrol at 4mg a day since day 1, 2mg AM and 2mg PM. I'm going to run this for 2 weeks. I'm going to start Ostarine SARMS next week to bridge into PCT with clomid, phytoserms, and maybe an AI like Erase. I'm hoping the Boladrol will give me a boost to kick things off, but enough time to recover for the "real" cycle at the end (SD into Epi/Tren).

I took 10 caps Nitrozine and 7 caps Creatine Nitrate (only 1 serving left!!!!) about 30 minutes pre-workout with AppNut Lit-Up for a change of pace.

Shoulders (and a little bicep to start):
DB Curls: 35 x 10; 45 x 10; 55 x 10; 60 x 8; 65 x 6; 70 x 5

DB Military Press: 60 x 10; 70 x 10; 75 x 10; 85 x 10; 85 x 7; 60 x 12

Upright Row: 95 x 10; 145 x 8; 115 x 10; 125 x 10; 135 x 10; 145 x 8

Side Laterals: 25 x 10; 30 x 10; 35 x 10; 40 x 10; 45 x 5; 45 x 5; 40 x 8; 40 x 8; 45 x 5

BB Shrug: 225 x 10; 315 x 10; 365 x 10; 405 x 10; 455 x 10; 495 x 10; 405 x 10; 315 x 10; 225 x 20; 135 x 20

HS Front Military: 2 plates x 10 (3 sets)

HS Shoulder Press: 2 plate x 8 (3 sets)

Machine Side Laterals: 160 x 10; 180 x 10; 200 x 5


I had 2 packs of Chocolate Milk afterwards, delicious!

At the end of it, my shoulders still feel like they could keep going although now they're starting to knot up. I know I worked them hard, particularly in the DB Military Press and Shrug, both I got new PR's. I know I'm going to be paying for it, but damn it felt good.

It wasn't an incredible shoulder pump, per se, but more a strong feeling like they could keep pressing more and more weight! Felt great, and I didn't want to stop even though it was 10PM and I had been there way too long! I also had great arm vascularity, even though I only did 1 bicep exercise.

One thing that pissed me off was this gym (which I pay $60/month) was missing an 80lb, a 90lb, and a 110lb DB because people broke them. WTF!? I pay too much for jack-assery like that. I'm glad I'll be switching gyms at the end of this month, paying too much for too little. I just wish there was a hardcore gym, the one I'm switching to is just a hole in the wall, but they have some cool stuff like kettlebells and battle ropes (but only up to 100lb DBs )