Why do so many roid boys do natural shows?

[Firmanator]

I agree genetics play a big role in ones physique, but everyone has weak/strong points...gotta work with what you have physically. I also don't believe in genetic ceilings, your progress just exponentially slows down. If there was a point that your body said nope I'm not growing anymore, you might as well not bother in the first place. That's just me tho

[Movin_weight]

I agree genetics play a big role in ones physique, but everyone has weak/strong points...gotta work with what you have physically. I also don't believe in genetic ceilings, your progress just exponentially slows down. If there was a point that your body said nope I'm not growing anymore, you might as well not bother in the first place. That's just me tho

Sure I would agree that it exponentially slows down, at least until you reach that age where it starts to go the other way. Either way, luckily for the ego you wouldn't be able to ever really know where your genetic ceiling was.... that is unless you resort to drugs.

[ZiR RED]

I am a 68 years-old natural bodybuilder. I have competed "natural" my entire bodybuilding career. I have done more than 40 shows, won more than 60 trophies, four pro cards in four different natural federations (NGA, WNSO, IDFA (Canada) and NPA) and have competed as a pro six times. I passed a drug test prior to each show. I have also competed in six NPC shows where I won an open lightweight class in an NPC National Qualifier, several masters classes and I am the 2007 NPC Mr. Alabama Masters Champion. I promote shows (NGA Alabama Natural Open), judge shows and MC shows.

I tell you all of this so I can give you a responsible answer to your question.

Yes, if you take creatine, herbal fat reducers, fish oil, and many of the natural supplements on the market, you are not technically natural because you are using a supplement. What the natural federations are trying to provide is a level playing field for those athletes who chose not to use steroids, growth hormones, testosterone boost and prescription diuretics to "enhance" their muscle growth and contest prep. It's a matter of choice. That's why there is an NPC and that's why there are several federations that test their athletes to "catch" abusers. You can choose to go natural or go enhanced. Now, here's the rub. You can beat the drug test. It's a pretty simple test, designed to be a deterrent, to dissuade non-natural athletes from competing. The question is, why would you want to enter a natural show if you weren't natural? Is it a true victory to use a banned supplement, beat the drug test and then win a $25 trophy by besting a group of athletes who did not use banned supplements? It's a matter of Character. If you can't compete in the NPC, with your supplements, maybe you should try another sport. I know that I wouldn't want to have a trophy in my case that I didn't deserve or earn legitimately.

I do not condone nor do I condemn steroid use. I made the choice to take the natural road. Others have made the choice to take the enhanced road. But, where to choose to take your natural or enhanced physique is a matter of Character, isn't it? Remember, we are taking about competing for a $25.00 trophy.

Old Navy

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Old Navy again.

[Jstrong20]

I agree genetics play a big role in ones physique, but everyone has weak/strong points...gotta work with what you have physically. I also don't believe in genetic ceilings, your progress just exponentially slows down. If there was a point that your body said nope I'm not growing anymore, you might as well not bother in the first place. That's just me tho

If steroids teach anything it is that their is a "genetic ceiling" Even true freaks like Ronnie Coleman cannot maintain that size without gear. I was 262lbs at 24 years old on tren/test/anadrol. Lol Now that I don't use anything illegal do you think I will ever be that size. Ha Now at 33 and still training. Never close to 260's. I can maitain between 220-240 and I'm not complaining. I use legal stuff(still steroids) here and their for a boost. If not I would probablly stay at 220lbs.

[Jstrong20]

Also wanted to say I started at 150lbs so 220lbs is still great.

[mike hancho]

If you touch roids then you are no longer on a natural level. Everyone at my gym believes in one thing, consistent hard work. Natural bodybuilding is not a cycle on or off. There is no starting or stopping, there is only doing. It's a level of respect for the game no roid user can understand. Fitness is not a fad

[madds87]

If you touch roids then you are no longer on a natural level. Everyone at my gym believes in one thing, consistent hard work. Natural bodybuilding is not a cycle on or off. There is no starting or stopping, there is only doing. It's a level of respect for the game no roid user can understand. Fitness is not a fad

Hmmmm

[madds87]

If you touch roids then you are no longer on a natural level. Everyone at my gym believes in one thing, consistent hard work. Natural bodybuilding is not a cycle on or off. There is no starting or stopping, there is only doing. It's a level of respect for the game no roid user can understand. Fitness is not a fad

Are you that much better than evryon

[Firmanator]

If people decide to juice its up to them. I just think its stupid to juice if you don't compete, jmo.
For me, natural is the only way to go

[Firmanator]

And that does not really prove anything in regards to genetic ceiling...not sure what you mean?
Two of my 40 yr old lifetime natural friends made noticeable improvements from one season to the next. And of course if you're off gear you're not gonna hold that weight. If you aren't improving then adjust your nutrition, rest, training, or attitude! Don't just give up and think you can't grow

[mike hancho]

Are you that much better than evryon

No I don't think I'm better than roid users. I'm not against them. Just saying if you have used them to gain the edge don't say you're natural and for god sakes don't compete natural. Many people put in more hours of hard work than someone who takes anabolic steroids yet is not near the size. Before you comment about the last statement I'm also not saying people on steroids don't work hard, they do, but so do we.

[madds87]

No I don't think I'm better than roid users. I'm not against them. Just saying if you have used them to gain the edge don't say you're natural and for god sakes don't compete natural. Many people put in more hours of hard work than someone who takes anabolic steroids yet is not near the size. Before you comment about the last statement I'm also not saying people on steroids don't work hard, they do, but so do we.

Agreed.