Squats and deadlifts - ESSENTIAL? Aid in debate
- 11-16-2009, 02:27 PM
- 11-16-2009, 02:37 PM
- 11-16-2009, 02:44 PM
If you want to stop posting then fair enough, but don't try telling me what to do, there's a good girl.
11-16-2009, 02:53 PM
11-16-2009, 02:57 PM
11-16-2009, 02:58 PM
11-16-2009, 03:15 PM
For someone who's repeatedly claimed he's going to stop posting in this thread you sure seem to want to keep going.
11-17-2009, 06:16 PM
lets make this simple:
Squats and deadlifts are not necessary to gain muscle mass. You can get huge without them. It just take much more time and your physique isn't as functional.
That being said, why not do squats and deadlifts and get stronger/bigger faster with more functional strength rather than wasting your time cuz your a *****.
11-18-2009, 10:41 AM
Didn't read the whole thread yet, though I plan to eventually - the OP is asking something ridiculous.
Of course deadlifts and squats aren't ESSENTIAL/NECESSARY to gain muscle. You could gain muscle masturbating 24 hours a day, or in agonizing contortions while flailing your self with a whip. It is horribly obvious no one exercise is absolutely required to gain muscle...perhaps other than BREATHING and other basic organ functions.
The only significant argument of any value regarding these exercises is just how valuable they are beyond necessity (which no exercise is). And, in this case, the general consensus is that they are far and away the BEST set of exercises for overall body musculature stimulation and activation.
So, if your goal is overall muscle development and growth, you are wasting your time, short changing yourself, wimping out, being ineffectual, etc, if you ignore these two exercises. Sorry if this horse is already long past dead, or if the OP/protagonists are just too thick headed to understand. I just had to add my 2cents.
11-18-2009, 12:21 PM
3) You're an idiot. If I've never worked out before fu*king pushups will build muscle. If I build 28" wheels with squats of course I can add some new muscle by switching to new exercises. Nobody is building those wheels without squatting and deadliftin though.
4) Work on your flexibility and imbalances until you CAN squat and deadlift.
5) See 4
6) You're an idiot. Paraplegic bodybuilders are not symmetric therefore are not relevant. Thats like telling me since half the people at my gym don't squat or deadlift but have a decent peak on their biceps I should work out like them.
"Don't argue with me to try to validate yourself. If I wanted to look like you and perform like you I'd train like you. I don't, so I won't."
11-18-2009, 05:33 PM
this db got owned haha
11-19-2009, 12:46 PM
What are you talking about? No machine replicates a square and/or a deadlift. There are machines that TRY, but they are definitely not successful.
why are you trying to argue with me, i do squats and deads all the time i'm just sayiing there are similar exercises NOT THE EXACT SAME chill out braaah
05-27-2010, 09:03 AM
this thread is damn amusing....I'm going to continue squatting and deadlifting because every time I lift more on those 2 exercises, guaranteed weight will shoot up in all the other 'supportive' exercises etc such as curls/rows - which means more strength which to me means `i can overload my muscles with more weight and stress them more so therefore they should grow more as long as a good diet is feeding them...
05-28-2010, 05:25 PM
1. Free weights are better than machines because they tear and use more accessory muscles.
2. Squats are the best free weight exercise for legs because they tear the most fibers in all accessories muscles in the legs.
3. Legs muscles are the largest muscles of the body.
1 + 2 + 3 + upper body workout > upper body workout ....period
12-25-2012, 10:32 AM
12-25-2012, 10:54 AM
I cant believe this is a 7 page debate!
You are your own maker. Train dirty.
12-25-2012, 11:13 AM
Squats deads bench power clean > every other exercise.
08-01-2013, 10:02 PM
Wondering if anyone has any advice....when im squating im favoring my right leg pretty well anyone know how to fix this?
08-02-2013, 10:35 AM
It reminds me of when my knees came in when I first started. I got a bunch of info on weaknesses and etc. but a few guys just told me to "STOP" doing it. That worked very well and I have not looked back.
08-02-2013, 12:12 PM
08-02-2013, 12:31 PM
No I dont have a mirror but thanks for the info il have the guy I workout with yell at me when im favoring my right side and consitrate a lot more on going up evenly
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