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    Natty Supplement stacks


    Okay all you naturals.. (or OTC bodybuilders)

    What stacks are working for you?

    Even the not so naturals...Chime in too. I'd like to see the difference between the supplement stacks. I wonder if the basics are much different?

    I live off of Xtend and Chained out. I have to have my BCAA's. I just finished my tub of NOShotgun. I was thinking about trying Kre-Alkalyn EFX PRO from AAEFX or Vasocharge from Scivation. I've used the Vaso before, but I keep hearing great thing about AAEFX.
    Protein....EAS WHEY and AAEFX NF PRO.
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    Natty here. I like a good pre workout myself, Superpump250 i'll use some plasmajet to good results, about to try anaudralic state. I always take a mulit and fish oil, maybe some bcaa's, Gh support, and ZMA. Of course ON Protein or gainer. Currently just finshed MT anabolic Halo (it was given to me for free, but really no complaints except how MT won't list ingredients, so am i natural>? haha). Anyone else? surprised in 20 hours no one has responded? Anabolic Minds doesnt mean you HAVE to use the "HELP".
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    I am about to start Uni liver, Prime, Biomend, Complete balance, and super pump 250
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    I'm a new SNBF Pro and I had amazing results while using Cytogenix Cytonox and Cytocell for my pre workout NO and postworkout creatine. Try em out and let me know what you think!
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    Here's my stack

    AAEFX Stack
    2-HBM in a.m.
    2-tribulus in a.m.
    LBA Pro- 3-4 times a day
    Cell Rush- pre/post w/o
    Kre-Generator-post w/o
    NF Pro- throughout the day and post w/o
    Kre-Alkalyn- 1 post w/o
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    I'm lookin to do my first show this time next year, recentlly decided to move on from being a gym rat and actually being a bodybuildier. Here's my supps
    -Whey Protein (goes by whats on sale ATW, ON, or Dymatize)
    -Animal Pak
    -Xtend
    -Fish Oil
    -Vit C.
    -Liver Tabs
    -Creatine Mono

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    I'm natural and have done a few competitions
    My staples:
    -Protein (Dymatize and Beverly UMP)
    -Multi Vit (NOW ADAM)
    -Omega 3-6-9 blend
    -Xtend
    -Caffeine

    Stuff I cycle on and off
    -Some kind of creatine pre-workout formula
    -Kre-alkalyn
    -AAKG
    -Tribulus
    -A fat burner
    -Liver tabs and extra Amino tabs when dieting (I use Beverly Aminos and Liver)
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    currently running

    beverly muscle provider

    cre-02

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    fish oil

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    i ran the cytonox\cell products, enjoyed the creatine, not so much the NO.
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    Asteroid stack works astoundingly well... there are people using this who are actually gaining mass during contest prep...
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    yea astroid stack is a awsome natty stack
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    -Multivitamin/mineral
    -Vit c-e
    -Whey
    -Essential Fatty Acids
    -Creatine
    -BCAA’s
    -Glutamine
    -Beta Alanine
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Asteroid stack works astoundingly well... there are people using this who are actually gaining mass during contest prep...
    Havent heard of it...could you provide some details? thx
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    superman stack


    superman stack-

    here is how i dosed it.....

    Stoked- 2 am 2 pm
    AX, 1 am ,1 noon, 2 preworkout/5pm
    LX, 1 am, 1 noon, 1 PM
    ZMA-1 serving right before bed.

    Superman Stack for buddy
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    I don't understand how all these test boosters that can give you all sorts of side effects are considered "natural." Something natural is not going to give you gyno.

    That being said:

    Creatine
    Arginine AKG
    L- Glutamine
    Whey Iso
    Casein
    L-Carnitine
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    Quote Originally Posted by b18cyaaa View Post
    I don't understand how all these test boosters that can give you all sorts of side effects are considered "natural." Something natural is not going to give you gyno.

    That being said:

    Creatine
    Arginine AKG
    L- Glutamine
    Whey Iso
    Casein
    L-Carnitine
    I've never heard of test boosters causing gyno or "all sorts of side effects". Are you sure you aren't thinking about prohormones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Goody View Post
    Havent heard of it...could you provide some details? thx
    USPLabs ... Prime, Anabolic Pump and Powerfull. It's one of the better known stacks around....
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    Im really interested in the asteroid stack but does anyone else feel its way too overpriced? To properly run it you have to spend like 400. I would love a proven stack Im just very skeptical, especially when Primes main ingredient sounds like a tribulus knockoff called tribulus aquaticus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptorbh12 View Post
    Im really interested in the asteroid stack but does anyone else feel its way too overpriced? To properly run it you have to spend like 400. I would love a proven stack Im just very skeptical, especially when Primes main ingredient sounds like a tribulus knockoff called tribulus aquaticus.
    How do you figure 400?
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    Quote Originally Posted by b18cyaaa View Post
    I don't understand how all these test boosters that can give you all sorts of side effects are considered "natural." Something natural is not going to give you gyno.

    That being said:

    Creatine
    Arginine AKG
    L- Glutamine
    Whey Iso
    Casein
    L-Carnitine
    Test boosters can aggrivate pre-existing gyno but not cause it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jim623 View Post
    Test boosters can aggrivate pre-existing gyno but not cause it.
    Good info. I heard of people getting gyno from Prime and this turned me off to test boosters as most of them run off of similar compounds. However your saying without doubt it was pre existing gyno and it was agitated? then if one didn't have gyno it would not be possible to develop it from a test booster (Prime, AX etc.)? A young person with already suitable test levels would not convert some of the additional test to estrogen risking gyno even with an AI? Thanks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by b18cyaaa View Post
    Good info. I heard of people getting gyno from Prime and this turned me off to test boosters as most of them run off of similar compounds. However your saying without doubt it was pre existing gyno and it was agitated? then if one didn't have gyno it would not be possible to develop it from a test booster (Prime, AX etc.)? A young person with already suitable test levels would not convert some of the additional test to estrogen risking gyno even with an AI? Thanks.
    Prime doesn't even boost test it's completely non-hormonal....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    How do you figure 400?

    Essentially to run a good 12 week cycle of this stack you need 4 bottles of Prime ($220), 3 bottles of Powerfull ($108), and 3 bottles of anabolic pump ($128). so in all thats $456 to run this stack properly. How could this EVER be worth it??
    I came to these figures by following the reccommended 12 week cycle illustrated on USP's website.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raptorbh12 View Post
    Essentially to run a good 12 week cycle of this stack you need 4 bottles of Prime ($220), 3 bottles of Powerfull ($108), and 3 bottles of anabolic pump ($128). so in all thats $456 to run this stack properly. How could this EVER be worth it??
    I came to these figures by following the reccommended 12 week cycle illustrated on USP's website.
    Yah that is about how much it would cost for that long a cycle, that's 152 a month for everything, pricey for some not that bad if you can afford it. It's a lot of money to fork out all at once. That's why I try and stock up when things are on sale. If your on a budget for supps it's tough sometimes, even if it's a large budget.
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    Hey Dream Weaver,

    I was thinking of bulking soon but would like to stay completely natural. Allowed Trib but nothing methyl. I was thinking of trying the Asteroid Stack with the addition of P Slin or should I go with Diesel Test Pro Cycle. The other stack I was looking at was Drive by Applied Nutra, Primal Male by Man Sports and Mass Fx by Anabolic Extreme. I like the Asteroid choice with the P Slin the BEST but I was wondering if you have heard anything about these others products?
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    Quote Originally Posted by steveo87 View Post
    Hey Dream Weaver,

    I was thinking of bulking soon but would like to stay completely natural. Allowed Trib but nothing methyl. I was thinking of trying the Asteroid Stack with the addition of P Slin or should I go with Diesel Test Pro Cycle. The other stack I was looking at was Drive by Applied Nutra, Primal Male by Man Sports and Mass Fx by Anabolic Extreme. I like the Asteroid choice with the P Slin the BEST but I was wondering if you have heard anything about these others products?
    yah I run that as often as I can... use the plsin pre-workout and or on higher carb days for refeeds.

    Check this out of a pre-workout protocol Get super Swole with the DOUBLE CARB load Protocol Designed by MulletSoldier
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    Quote Originally Posted by DreamWeaver View Post
    Prime doesn't even boost test it's completely non-hormonal....
    Someone listed in the product feedback on Nutraplanet for Prime that it gave them gyno and now they needed surgery. Were they lying?
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    Thanks for the link I am going to try that for sure. If I do decide to use the USP products which I think I will in the next couple of months or so. I am going to follow that proticol or something of that natural. Right now I take Vaso Charge Pre Workout with 2 scoops of Xtend and 4 scoops Xtend during workout. I think with the addition of all the carbs and the P SLin this would an amazing combination.

    Do you know anyone who has used Diesel Test Pro Cycle or The other stack I suggested?
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    Quote Originally Posted by b18cyaaa View Post
    Someone listed in the product feedback on Nutraplanet for Prime that it gave them gyno and now they needed surgery. Were they lying?
    That would be my guess...
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    Would Dermacrine be considered natural? Its dhea and resveratrol.
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    bro, last time i checked the INBF and the NGA banned list they both had DHEA listed as a banned substance i'm pretty sure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pinchharmonic View Post
    bro, last time i checked the INBF and the NGA banned list they both had DHEA listed as a banned substance i'm pretty sure.
    I was just curious if it was considered natural. Im not a bodybuilder.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopie View Post
    Here's my stack

    AAEFX Stack
    2-HBM in a.m.
    2-tribulus in a.m.
    LBA Pro- 3-4 times a day
    Cell Rush- pre/post w/o
    Kre-Generator-post w/o
    NF Pro- throughout the day and post w/o
    Kre-Alkalyn- 1 post w/o
    Ditto
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoopie View Post
    Here's my stack

    AAEFX Stack
    2-HBM in a.m.
    2-tribulus in a.m.
    LBA Pro- 3-4 times a day
    Cell Rush- pre/post w/o
    Kre-Generator-post w/o
    NF Pro- throughout the day and post w/o
    Kre-Alkalyn- 1 post w/o
    Hoop, have you tried using the Kre-Generator pre-workout as well? If not, you should give it a try! GOOD STUFF!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigmoe65 View Post
    I was just curious if it was considered natural. Im not a bodybuilder.
    I think this is a tricky question simply because just because something is natural doesn't mean anything really other than it occurs in nature. Insulin and testosterone naturally occur in the body, but injecting them would be considered enhancement by most people. My advice would be to do some research and determine if the risks are worth the benefits for you and the make a decision based upon how you feel about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    superman stack-

    here is how i dosed it.....

    Stoked- 2 am 2 pm
    AX, 1 am ,1 noon, 2 preworkout/5pm
    LX, 1 am, 1 noon, 1 PM
    ZMA-1 serving right before bed.

    Superman Stack for buddy
    Not to call you out or anything but I wouldn't consider LX natty. 7-OH and 5-AT both have a steroidal composition. Yes they aren't considered anabolics but I think they both work via directly acting on hormones, hence considering them not natty. What do you think?

    I've tried to do so much research as I can on these two components. 7-OH I may stray because it is a metabolite of DHEA but as for 5-AT I don't think I can let it slide. If I were you I'd replace LX with VAT Attack! Trust me, from someone who has regrettedly ran LX not knowing too much about it, VAT Attack! delivers just as good...naturally.

    Don't get me wrong, LX def. works but at the time I was convinced that it was non-hormonal, but I beg to differ now. I am a hardcore advocate for the natty BBer and feel tainted after using LX, just because I am that strict about the structures of some compounds. And again not to sound like a **** but if someone says "well cholesterol is a steroid..." my answer is simple, dietary cholesterol is not the same as synthetic steroids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by F355 View Post
    Not to call you out or anything but I wouldn't consider LX natty. 7-OH and 5-AT both have a steroidal composition. Yes they aren't considered anabolics but I think they both work via directly acting on hormones, hence considering them not natty. What do you think?

    I've tried to do so much research as I can on these two components. 7-OH I may stray because it is a metabolite of DHEA but as for 5-AT I don't think I can let it slide. If I were you I'd replace LX with VAT Attack! Trust me, from someone who has regrettedly ran LX not knowing too much about it, VAT Attack! delivers just as good...naturally.

    Don't get me wrong, LX def. works but at the time I was convinced that it was non-hormonal, but I beg to differ now. I am a hardcore advocate for the natty BBer and feel tainted after using LX, just because I am that strict about the structures of some compounds. And again not to sound like a **** but if someone says "well cholesterol is a steroid..." my answer is simple, dietary cholesterol is not the same as synthetic steroids.

    Thanks for the info........

    Has anyone tested positive in ANY "Natural" organization for DHEA via Lean Xtreme?

    Please post references.

    Again, I appreciate the info and the offer of an alternative to LX.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slackadjuster View Post
    Okay all you naturals.. (or OTC bodybuilders)

    What stacks are working for you?

    Even the not so naturals...Chime in too. I'd like to see the difference between the supplement stacks. I wonder if the basics are much different?
    My 'staples' are:
    * Creatine (NeoVar Recomped or Cre-02)
    * Multivitamin
    * Antioxidant
    * Good Fats (flaxseed or hempseed oil or fish oils)
    * Protein Powder (that includes BCAAs in)
    * OsteoSport
    * Lipotrophin-PM
    * IGF-2
    * DCP

    I 'cycle' RPM (12 weeks on/1-2 weeks off) and Drive (8-10 weeks on/2-4 weeks off) throughout the year.

    IGF-2 is my favourite supplement, as it keeps me relatively lean whilst allowing for muscle accretion. I almost never stop using it and when I do I notice the difference BIG time!

    The best stack I ever used re gaining muscle was:
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    * NeoVar Recomped
    * RPM
    * OsteoSport


    Quote Originally Posted by b18cyaaa View Post
    I don't understand how all these test boosters that can give you all sorts of side effects are considered "natural." Something natural is not going to give you gyno.
    As already mentioned, NATURAL testosterone boosters are NOT going to give you gyno and they do not have any side effects either aside from perhaps acne or nausea (if they contain icarrin).


    Quote Originally Posted by bigmoe65 View Post
    Would Dermacrine be considered natural? Its dhea and resveratrol.
    Dermacrine would NOT be considered natural, as DHEA is a hormonal precursor.


    Quote Originally Posted by pinchharmonic View Post
    bro, last time i checked the INBF and the NGA banned list they both had DHEA listed as a banned substance i'm pretty sure.
    DHEA (and all other hormonal precursors) are banned in the Natural Federations. However, 7-Keto DHEA (i.e. 7-OXO DHEA), 7alphaOH-DHEA, and 7beta-OH-DHEA, as the ONLY exceptions, ARE ALLOWED in the Pro Natural Federations and have been since 2007!

    See link below for the Natural Federations' "Banned Substances" list.


    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68SS View Post
    Thanks for the info........

    Has anyone tested positive in ANY "Natural" organization for DHEA via Lean Xtreme?

    Please post references.

    Again, I appreciate the info and the offer of an alternative to LX.
    You would NOT test positive after having used Lean Xtreme, as 7-OXO DHEA and 7-OH DHEA are NOT "banned substances".

    Reference: LIST OF WNBF BANNED SUBSTANCES
    Quote Originally Posted by LIST OF WNBF BANNED SUBSTANCES
    7-oxo-DHEA (also known as 7-keto-DHEA), 7alpha-hydroxy-DHEA (7alphaOH-DHEA) and 7beta-hydroxy-DHEA (7beta-OH-DHEA) are not banned by the WNBF or INBF when used for weight loss. Although hormonal metabolites of DHEA, they do not elevate testosterone levels and can be used by WNBF or INBF athletes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guejsn View Post
    My 'staples' are:
    * Creatine (NeoVar Recomped or Cre-02)
    * Multivitamin
    * Antioxidant
    * Good Fats (flaxseed or hempseed oil or fish oils)
    * Protein Powder (that includes BCAAs in)
    * OsteoSport
    * Lipotrophin-PM
    * IGF-2
    * DCP

    I 'cycle' RPM (12 weeks on/1-2 weeks off) and Drive (8-10 weeks on/2-4 weeks off) throughout the year.

    IGF-2 is my favourite supplement, as it keeps me relatively lean whilst allowing for muscle accretion. I almost never stop using it and when I do I notice the difference BIG time!

    The best stack I ever used re gaining muscle was:
    * Activate Xtreme
    * Drive
    * IGF-2
    * NeoVar Recomped
    * RPM
    * OsteoSport




    As already mentioned, NATURAL testosterone boosters are NOT going to give you gyno and they do not have any side effects either aside from perhaps acne or nausea (if they contain icarrin).




    Dermacrine would NOT be considered natural, as DHEA is a hormonal precursor.




    DHEA (and all other hormonal precursors) are banned in the Natural Federations. However, 7-Keto DHEA (i.e. 7-OXO DHEA), 7alphaOH-DHEA, and 7beta-OH-DHEA, as the ONLY exceptions, ARE ALLOWED in the Pro Natural Federations and have been since 2007!

    See attachment for the Natural Federations' "Banned Substances" list.




    You would NOT test positive after having used Lean Xtreme, as 7-OXO DHEA and 7-OH DHEA are NOT "banned substances".
    Reference: LIST OF WNBF BANNED SUBSTANCES


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