New Natural Bodybuilding Forum
- 06-23-2009, 04:27 PM
- 06-23-2009, 04:39 PM
.02 and noone is juding someone for looking good, we judge then for using gear or hormones and then telling everyone " Oh I just use creatine" ya sure you do! fck off!
- 06-27-2009, 03:59 AM
06-29-2009, 06:12 PM
What if some one experiments with steroids or prohormones but then gets off and decides they want to train natural for now on. Should they never consider themselves natural or compete natural because of their past mistakes?
06-29-2009, 06:19 PM
06-29-2009, 06:35 PM
I am just curious, do you know what the rules for NPC Team Universe are? I always wondered how the team universe naturals are so huge. They seem to be bigger than a lot of the natural pro bodybuilders in other organizations.
06-29-2009, 09:06 PM
06-29-2009, 09:10 PM
The lie detector tests are a joke. They don't even ask if have read the banned substance list. They just ask if you have taken any substances on the list. If you have never read it....how can you knowingly lie about taking something on it??????
Still.....why cheat? I don't know if I want to compete anymore because of all the rules. You can't take anything!
07-04-2009, 04:17 PM
I think if you are in a natural show you should compete as a natural. If not, enter a regular bb show. this is bb, not other sports where "maybe" "everyone" does it. Steroids are a bb staple. you either do or you don't, or you aren't on it "right now". But if you juice and compete as a natural, you deserve for me to show up to your house and beat your a$$. How can you do all the hard work (juiced or natural, its all hard work, i admit that) and then lose your integrity and lie and say you are natural if you are not?
Back to the "what is natural?" debate, I think, no steroids or PH. Other than that you are good. I'm natural btw, not hating on juicers, just saying pick on someone your own size haha. but not really, im 6 ft 240, but there are advantages to using the juice that make it unfair. my hear goes out to DreamWeaver in his uphill battle.
07-06-2009, 09:01 PM
07-06-2009, 10:23 PM
07-06-2009, 11:08 PM
09-03-2009, 07:12 AM
I competed as a natural in the UK for many years. From late 80's through to mid 90's the most unnatural thing I took was whey protein. Won numerous titles including nationals as a heavyweight in the ANB - the then leading UK fed which produced some of the greatest naturals in the world - Rob Hope, Nigel Davis and Andrew Palmer et al.
The IOC list of banned substances/compounds should be the standard, and I also beleive that a true natural should have never taken any AAS/GH insulin etc.. even if it was many years ago. YOU ARE NEVER AGAIN NATURAL and a cheat.
Let me expand I ceased competing a number of years ago and for numerous personal reasons in the last 18 months have tried OTC designer steriods - 3 cycles so far, I do not plan to ever compete again but if I did it would obviously not be in a natural show!
I am very conservative with my AAS use and wait a number of months between cycles, and imo if you have good genetics its wholy possible to maintain most of the early AAS gains long term. At a guess I have but on and maintained around 25lbs if I was to compete in a natural show in a year or 2 I would pass all tests and to my knowledge there wouldn't be a senior in the world (I competed at the top level as a natural remember) who could stand next to me, I competed against many in the ANB who did this and it was one of the reasons why I stopped competing.
Anyway for those of you that stay clean good on you all and the best of luck in your endevours.
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