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    not sore on x factor


    im on day 28 of x factor and i still have not experienced doms or the other effects people report. When should i start noticing gains/effects?

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    Quote Originally Posted by clownbaby1 View Post
    im on day 28 of x factor and i still have not experienced doms or the other effects people report. When should i start noticing gains/effects?
    It should be pretty soon. What is your diet/training?
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    And the dosage protocol, too!
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    Quote Originally Posted by strategicmove View Post
    And the dosage protocol, too!
    Yes, what the genius said
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    And how do you do pre and post-WO nutrition? I did 5g Leucine/BCAA's/Glutamine and experienced almost no DOMS. That being said, I also experienced very little results, but I might be doing a 2nd try.
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    eating 2800-3000 calories in a 40/40/20 split(clean bulking). That is 300 over my maintanence. I take the doses 2-1-1 (2 pre workout) and i am supplementing with waxymaize starch and Protein PWO and purple wrath (EAA's) intra workout.
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    Any types of oils? What kind of fats are you using?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    Any types of oils? What kind of fats are you using?
    cut out all fish oil and eat 1-2 tbsp PB a day along with almonds, avocado, and the rest are fats from chicken, beef, milk, etc.
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    Have you noticed any kinds of fat loss?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    Have you noticed any kinds of fat loss?
    one day i was like "whoah i look ripped", but after that one day, no, nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clownbaby1 View Post
    one day i was like "whoah i look ripped", but after that one day, no, nothing.
    Haha!!

    Well, to be honest, today is the first day of my DOMS on my cycle (damn it feels good) and I am at day 26, so I would wait a little to see if it kicks in soon..
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    Haha!!

    Well, to be honest, today is the first day of my DOMS on my cycle (damn it feels good) and I am at day 26, so I would wait a little to see if it kicks in soon..
    alright thanks, still no DOMS today, but hopefully ill get the effects without DOMS.
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    Train harder Haha jk.
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    Very interested to see this thread!

    Here is where I am - Day 55 of X Factor @ 6 caps a Day.

    No real increase in soreness @ any time. Mild strength increases, mild fat decrease.

    Not taking any NSAIDs, flax, fish oil, olive oil, penut butter, cissus, etc

    Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    Train harder Haha jk.
    Seriously, I just started GVT and it is getting more sore. I dips 10x10 of dips and bicep curls... I'm afraid of the soreness when I wake up tomorrow. 10x10 of decline DB bench was rough!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steveoph View Post
    Seriously, I just started GVT and it is getting more sore. I dips 10x10 of dips and bicep curls... I'm afraid of the soreness when I wake up tomorrow. 10x10 of decline DB bench was rough!

    Good! I'm a beleiver in the no pain no gain saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jjohn View Post
    Train harder Haha jk.

    Train differently. If he's doing the same workout he's been doing previously, then he won't be tapping into the increased AA levels he has going on. No? I noticed that once I varied my training a bit, things changed. I would get DOMS, but nothing like I've seen reported by some. Since I've changed things slightly on most lifts, I've noticed a huge increase in DOMS. I'm on day 38 of my cycle now. The changed aren't drastic, just small things ie. using a wide grip on seated rows instead of a close grip etc. For things like deads and front squats, I've just concentrated on upping the weight every session and that has been enough to cause more DOMS. Using X-factor has been giving me some good strength gains, so that makes this strategy possible. Good stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LT* View Post
    Train differently. If he's doing the same workout he's been doing previously, then he won't be tapping into the increased AA levels he has going on.
    I totally agree with you. Some suggest restructuring training to ensure that DOMS is achieved. Presently, I am on day 15 have encountered residual soreness, but primarily from the stimulus of training. Some people suggest DC training, but I would actually recommend PRRS training. My current approach utilized PRRS training and is great thus far. (If you are interested in PRRS training read this first and then this last.
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