- 03-02-2008, 06:51 PM
Im trying to bulk and wana use X-factor. Im think of stacking it with DRIVE, but i dont know what supplements work best with it. Monetarily i have about 100-130 dollars to spend on 6-8 weeks. I have also the basics and was just wondering what best works with it to put on solid muscle.
- 03-02-2008, 07:05 PM
The x-factor/drive/rpm combo is a really solid one, as there are some body chemistry synergies involved. If you are looking for mass gains and less so recomp (what i'm guessing from the pics + stats) then maybe x-factor/mass FX is a little bit better bet. especially since you are 19 if I remember right, so a little bit limited on some things, and likely to not get much effect from natural test boosters
03-02-2008, 07:10 PM
Yeah i just dont know if i could run a mass fx/ x factor stack for 6-8 weeks. (more than 100-130 dollars)
03-02-2008, 08:25 PM
still could just do the x-factor for its 50 days (7 weeks) and use the massfx for the first 4 as it kicks in fast, but x-factor takes time (you don't usually get results from xfactor first 3 weeks)
03-02-2008, 09:21 PM
03-02-2008, 09:34 PM
my feeling would be to buy
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/n...500-grams.html for $70
http://www.nutraplanet.com/product/a...-120-caps.html for $50.
So thats $120. then take the bulk x-factor as 10g a day, and start with the massfx day 1. X-factor takes 20+ days before it is fully kicked in at the normal dosing. Seems to kick in faster if you raise the dose, but that would mean adding to cost by buying a bottle of xfactor to run on top. I'm running x-factor capsules right now at 1250mg of AA a day (the bulk or normal cap dosage give you 1000mg) for 60 days so it uses 3 bottles, or 1 bulk + 1 bottle.
03-02-2008, 10:20 PM
will the mass fx yield good results off of one bottle and is the AA at the 10 grams enough for someone who is 220?
03-02-2008, 10:25 PM
i'd think its enough AA, as haven't really noticed anyone mentioning its dosage being very weight dependent, but i'm not sure. I think 4 lbs in the month on massfx isn't unreasonable for the single bottle, and another 4 the x-factor. but it is hard to guess. we'll see what anyone else says tomorrow
03-02-2008, 10:28 PM
03-02-2008, 10:30 PM
I recall seeing some people doing a good 3-4 lbs in gains from a single bottle of the old formula.
Hard to say for you tho, as you are nearer to natural limits than most guys here I think
03-02-2008, 10:33 PM
yeah that does suck, but u can always push the limits. I wana pull 600 on dead and run a 4.75 40 by august and hopefully that combo will help. Ill prob run the combo twice with a big break in between.
03-02-2008, 10:37 PM
what about replacing the mass fx with powerFULL. Would powerful be a better supplement with x factor?
03-02-2008, 10:39 PM
its a good supplement, not sure about mass gains with it tho. nice recovery with it, thats for sure.
03-03-2008, 11:53 AM
03-03-2008, 12:10 PM
sesasmin or fish oil is all I can think of. really there isn't much supplement wise that relies on them. Outside of that, any other anti-inflammatory. Works synergistically with many other supps as it has a different mode of action
03-07-2008, 11:43 PM
Can x factor or mass fx cause gyno or make it worse? i have some from puberty and i would like it to go away and definitely not get worse.
03-25-2008, 10:06 PM
I am also wanting to run bulk AA to gain back some mass after I finish my current cut. I was thinking about using it with 2 bottles of Trib Test Hardcore at 4 caps/day for 50 days, $60 at Nutra prices.
I also have read information about it being beneficial to run a creatine product alongside AA. I think it was due to the increase in absorption to the muscle caused by AA induced inflamation? I think Forslean would be great to add too though, or maybe some Phospatidyl Serine?
I am interested in knowing what you decide and how it goes.
03-25-2008, 10:13 PM
i decided on running a hyperdrol mass fx and retain stack with creatine mono AAKG and a bunch of other goodies for eight weeks. i got a log up to. im prob gonna run a x factor and mass fx stack next though.
03-25-2008, 11:13 PM
Cool. I will check it out for sure. Are you using the new version of MAss Fx?
Another stack I am thinking of is AA + Forskolin for the first three weeks, then Mass Fx Hardcore + AA for the next 4.
03-26-2008, 01:29 PM
yeah im using the new version. I hear though that AA is best when taken for 50 days cause it takes a while to kick in.
03-26-2008, 01:53 PM
yes, at 1g a day (4 caps) it definitely is best to go at least that long. higher doses kick in faster, so its maybe ok to go shorter.
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No, that would be fine, although how much benefit HMB really adds after your first few months of working out is questionable.