[cal62887]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

My typical rate of progress is .5-1 lb typically. The muscle gain/fat loss simultaneously is something that I am pleased with up to this point.


Also too, I mentioned that I would be getting a blood test. Well, actually I have an annual physical I am required to get for work, which includes a full blood test panel plus other stuff. I believe they do not test for testosterone/estrogen specifically, as I recall last year, but cholesterol, HDL, LDL among other stuff is tested. Liver enzymes as well. Getting that done this Friday. Results will probably be available 2 weeks or so after that.

The only thing that I really want to see is cholesterol, LDL,HDL.

My cholesterol is very low, like 135 low.

My blood pressure is 115/75, I believe. So that is pretty damn low too.

In for that...


T/E levels shouldn't be an issue as is.


Thanks for being thorough... and again, I'm reading but it seems like you've got this thread under control.

-cal

[ReaperX]

Went to the doctor today. Did a full panel physical including blood tests. Also too did a urine test. Based on the urine test (PH levels) all my markers (i.e. glucose, liver, etc, etc) are within extremely healthy ranges.

Blood Pressure is: 106/65
Pulse: 70

I usually have a thing about getting my blood taken and freak out, so as the nurse was doing it, she threw an ice pack down the back of my shirt.

Blood results will be sent to my place in a few weeks.

[ReaperX]

Also too,

I'm starting to think that it DOES make a difference if you intake Omega-3 fatty acids, esp. at the X-Factor recommended dose of 1g (4 gels), despite my contradictory hypothesis before. Mg for mg, I think that a high amount of omega-3 intake will cause a significant shift towards an anti-inflammatory state and overshadow X-Factor. This is what the initial hypothesis was all along from the beginning (from the omega-3 avoid warning).

[jjohn]

Very cool Reaper!

[cal62887]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

Also too,

I'm starting to think that it DOES make a difference if you intake Omega-3 fatty acids, esp. at the X-Factor recommended dose of 1g (4 gels), despite my contradictory hypothesis before. Mg for mg, I think that a high amount of omega-3 intake will cause a significant shift towards an anti-inflammatory state and overshadow X-Factor. This is what the initial hypothesis was all along from the beginning (from the omega-3 avoid warning).

Why the sudden/drastic change? I've always recommended to not supplement with Omega-3 but rather rely on diet... Personally i'd rather err on the low-side of Omega-3 intake while taking ArA.

[rogermoore]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

I had a headache awhile back a long time ago and took several fish oil gels as an alternative to ibuprofen to see if it would stop my headache. This was awhile back, but it really did not ease my headache at all, so the anti-inflammatory effects were not as significant as I would have expected.

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Sorry to interfere but headaches have nothing to do inflammation. There are several theories about what causes headaches but certainly inflammation isn`t one of them, unless you have a virus or bacterial infection in your head / brain.

One of the popular theories claims that headaches are caused by a sudden constriction of blood vessels in the brain followed by similar expansion which causes the pain.

I`ve suffered migraines since childhood so I know a bit about headaches

[ReaperX]

Originally Posted by rogermoore

Sorry to interfere but headaches have nothing to do inflammation. There are several theories about what causes headaches but certainly inflammation isn`t one of them, unless you have a virus or bacterial infection in your head / brain.

One of the popular theories claims that headaches are caused by a sudden constriction of blood vessels in the brain followed by similar expansion which causes the pain.

I`ve suffered migraines since childhood so I know a bit about headaches

Why are anti-inflammatories taken for headaches then ? This has been a very common practice for a very long time. I agree that headaches can be caused by numerous reasons including some type of vasodialation, parasite in the brain, cancer of the brain, etc....

IMHO, inflammation can be one of many causes for headaches, among many.

[ReaperX]

p.s. I have not gotten a chance to actually look at this over in a very through manner, (the headache=inflammation) causation. I'm just dropping by to comment, but will look at it further when I get some freetime.

[ReaperX]

Originally Posted by cal62887

Why the sudden/drastic change? I've always recommended to not supplement with Omega-3 but rather rely on diet... Personally i'd rather err on the low-side of Omega-3 intake while taking ArA.

Cal-


6 gels of X-Factor= 1.5g ArA
2 gels of Fish Oil=600mg Omega-3s


I'm just using a simple 'checks and balances' reasoning behind this, but it appears that enough Fish Oil will or omega-3s in general will outweigh the ArA and shift towards an anti-inflammatory state.

Personally for me, it is probably best just to avoid Omega-3s all together. Since X-Factor is expensive, I might as well try and reap the most of out it. Lol, but you reps get it for free though !

[ReaperX]

This is just a side note:


I took the 1 capsule of Aspire36 today around 4:00pm today. It is approx. 10:25pm right now. I have an EXTREMELY bad headache and I cannot breathe out of my nose. I feel like absolute shlt right now and close to 6 hrs later, I still feel dizzy. I feel absolutely f----ng horrible. I'd rather just take tribulus and horny goat weed.


Aspire36 isn't happening ever again for me.

[cal62887]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

This is just a side note:


I took the 1 capsule of Aspire36 today around 4:00pm today. It is approx. 10:25pm right now. I have an EXTREMELY bad headache and I cannot breathe out of my nose. I feel like absolute shlt right now and close to 6 hrs later, I still feel dizzy. I feel absolutely f----ng horrible. I'd rather just take tribulus and horny goat weed.


Aspire36 isn't happening ever again for me.

I know a lot of people who got that reaction. CoQ10 and Water helped with it a bit.

[poopypants]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

Ok, so I weighed in and did several of them to account of any inconsistancies and averaged the gains. Here are the results after 1 month (2 bottles of X-Factor) on a maintaince diet and high volume training.


Weight gain= +2.12 lbs
Fat loss= -1.03 lbs


Couple of thoughts here:

1. This gain was made off maint. cal. intake, not bulking.
2. This gain is more than my typical gain (.5-1 lb/month)
3. Fat loss+muscle gain simultaneously
4. Non-hormonal
5. Minimal sides
6. Minimal DOMS, mainly only in lats/quads/legs
7. Occasional headaches, nothing too crazy
8. Still has omega-3 intake (not a lot, just occasional)
9. No joint pain
10. Already took close to $100.00 worth of X-Factor.


If the results stay similar to these, it will result in a ~ 4.5-5 lb gain over all. These are real numbers, not aribitrary 'Dude, I got jacked' numbers. Honestly, I was expecting/liking results to be in 1 month ~ 3.5-4 lbs, but this is what the actual result was. I also too was expecting to make a +6-8 lb legitimate gain after the 4 bottles of X-Factor, however, I'm not sure if that will be the case based on these results.

I feel that X-Factor works more as a muscle enhancement supplement vs. a primary anabolic. To make this really worthwhile, it needs to be stacked with something. Using X-Factor solely enchanced my natural gains, however, if someone were to use it on cycle or with something else (Drive seems to be popular), the results could be even greater. Just food for thought.

Ive been following this and just recently caught up to read this with my long subs list, and this post brings great promise to my soon X-factor stacked cycle.

I get to try it out along side the new Mass FX Max Strength which especially after reading your last post makes me think this stack will be killer.

Also the supposed effect of AA increasing the number of AR's really excites me with using it with a supplement like this considering an increase of free test is to be expected and the addition of 25R-Diol and 11-Alpha (potent ecdysterone extract), me thinks it will just allow for a great amplification of this already powerfull looking natural anabolic.

Thanks for running such a high supplementation of this and logging it for us all, I greatly appreciate it as Im sure so do many others.

Last question just to console myself, youve experienced absolutely NO joint pains? I am very sucseptable to joint pain with many shoulder and knee injuries and supplement constantly with 4-6g's super cissus in bulk daily to compensate for this. I plan on continuing this supplementation as its a staple for me but I still would like to be sure I wont face a problem.

Thanks again Reaper, Props and Reps bro.

-Poops

[poopypants]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

p.s. I have not gotten a chance to actually look at this over in a very through manner, (the headache=inflammation) causation. I'm just dropping by to comment, but will look at it further when I get some freetime.

no reaper this is very much so inline with what I would assume as well. With this fellow being a sufferer of migranes (if a true sufferer) he would have been prescribed 800mg Ibuprufen at least a couple times, especially to start. If they could get away with prescibing any old pain killer then they would not go to IB. first IMO theyd most likely give whats most effective..... and so that leasds me to believe IB is the most effective.

The other thing shes been given is naproxen and vicodin for the really killer ones but she seldom takes it due to drousyness and her dislike of narcotices and addictive substances.

With headaches Im sure its dependant on the cause of the headache as to what it is they have you take but IB is still what I always take (only if its absolutely unbearable as I steer clear of all Nsaids) and its very quick and effective.

Ill ask Trauma1 to chime in on this exact subject if you dont mind the OT discussion since hes in the med feild and VERY knowledgable about the causes and effects of most all ailments.