[ReaperX]

-No DOMS at all
-Pumps good so far
-Everything is the usual
-No headaches at all


*I used to get very frequent headaches when I took X-Factor for the first time a long time ago with a much smaller dose. I'm not sure how my body is specifically reacting to a higher amount. Hm. Interesante.

----Wrapping up week 2----

The suspense is killing me so I'm gonna check in @ 4 weeks (1 month) and report feedback.

[jjohn]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

-No DOMS at all
-Pumps good so far
-Everything is the usual
-No headaches at all


*I used to get very frequent headaches when I took X-Factor for the first time a long time ago with a much smaller dose. I'm not sure how my body is specifically reacting to a higher amount. Hm. Interesante.

----Wrapping up week 2----

The suspense is killing me so I'm gonna check in @ 4 weeks (1 month) and report feedback.

You probably have upped the water intake.. This is very cool! I'm looking forward to see your results!!

[haiz69]

I'm in for this. I want to run this exact layout if I get selected to log it.

[cal62887]

I'm curious as to how high your EFA intake is? You mentioned that you'll supplement with EFAs and at the very least not go out of your way to avoid Fish Oils/EFAs...

Was this different from your last log with X Factor?

[getbustered]

Originally Posted by ImJ2x

And you're right -- the AA I got is the stuff that MN sued off the market. I'm sure that's why it was so cheap (although I knew nothing of the lawsuit when I purchased it).

In that case, I would ask you not to judge ArA, and by extension our product, based on your experience with that product. I know everyone loves to "ethyl esterize" everything, but in this case it is not a good thing. If anyone is REALLY interested, I can dig up some posts by Phosphate Bone (or possibly ask him to chime in) that showed that the ethyl ester version of ArA actually had a lower oral bioavailibility than the regular version.

[ReaperX]

Originally Posted by jjohn

You probably have upped the water intake.. This is very cool! I'm looking forward to see your results!!

Yep, I've increased my water intake. I was just busy doing other stuff that I didn't get a chance to run out to the supermarket, but I wound up getting several gallons of water, so I am well hydrated at the moment !

[ReaperX]

Originally Posted by cal62887

I'm curious as to how high your EFA intake is? You mentioned that you'll supplement with EFAs and at the very least not go out of your way to avoid Fish Oils/EFAs...

Was this different from your last log with X Factor?

My EFA intake isn't really that high. Probably 2-3 times a week I'll have a package of tuna, and I usually take about 1-2 fish gels each day so it is nothing really in excess.

I know that originally the intial was to avoid omega-3s. however, assuming this were true that the anti-inflammatory effects would negate the X-Factor would probably not have too much of an impact.

I had a headache awhile back a long time ago and took several fish oil gels as an alternative to ibuprofen to see if it would stop my headache. This was awhile back, but it really did not ease my headache at all, so the anti-inflammatory effects were not as significant as I would have expected.

I typically do not use any anti-inflammatories in general or OTC/perscription medication if I can help it. I'm not very keen on the idea of taking chemicals, if I can avoid it.


I don't think that the anti-inflammatory effects of omega-3/EFA would be very significant, unless you were to mega-dose on them, which is why I decided to not strictly stop my intake.

My last log with X-Factor, I took 2 gels/ED and only ran one bottle. My omega-3/EFA intake was the same though. Fish here and there, plus fish oil gels/ED

[cal62887]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

I had a headache awhile back a long time ago and took several fish oil gels as an alternative to ibuprofen to see if it would stop my headache. This was awhile back, but it really did not ease my headache at all, so the anti-inflammatory effects were not as significant as I would have expected.
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This is what I was trying to get at. I have the opposite reaction. I can tell a bit of a difference when supplementing with Omega 3's and the constant headaches that I get. I suppose for you, it has no impact.

You're also correct about the changing expectation of EFAs while on cycle. It's becoming much more lenient and as long as you don't take EFAs to the extreme, your cycle should go about quite smoothly with no negative impact.

Glad to see you're up to speed (as expected from reading your other posts).

As a side note, Mag, CoQ10, and Water seem to have helped my headaches a lot on a daily basis... this may be something to consider if your headaches come about.

[ReaperX]

Originally Posted by cal62887

This is what I was trying to get at. I have the opposite reaction. I can tell a bit of a difference when supplementing with Omega 3's and the constant headaches that I get. I suppose for you, it has no impact.

You're also correct about the changing expectation of EFAs while on cycle. It's becoming much more lenient and as long as you don't take EFAs to the extreme, your cycle should go about quite smoothly with no negative impact.

Glad to see you're up to speed (as expected from reading your other posts).

As a side note, Mag, CoQ10, and Water seem to have helped my headaches a lot on a daily basis... this may be something to consider if your headaches come about.

cal-


Do you supplement frequently with Omega-3s or just use Omega-3s from time to time ? In my previous post, when I said I took some fish oil gels when I had a headache, I took 3 gels at one time. Later on down the line after the cycle is over, if I get a really bad headache I'll try taking 6 gels at once and see if it has any impact.


I should start supplementing with CoQ10, it has been something I've been meaning to do. I take multi 2x day, and ZMA. It is hard for me to specifically pinpoint the reason why I get headaches. I think the top 2 reasons are because my caffeine intake is somewhat high, and if I drastically stop or lower my intake, I immediately get headaches. Also too, poor sleep the night before also creates headaches with me.

[cal62887]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

cal-


Do you supplement frequently with Omega-3s or just use Omega-3s from time to time ? In my previous post, when I said I took some fish oil gels when I had a headache, I took 3 gels at one time. Later on down the line after the cycle is over, if I get a really bad headache I'll try taking 6 gels at once and see if it has any impact.


I should start supplementing with CoQ10, it has been something I've been meaning to do. I take multi 2x day, and ZMA. It is hard for me to specifically pinpoint the reason why I get headaches. I think the top 2 reasons are because my caffeine intake is somewhat high, and if I drastically stop or lower my intake, I immediately get headaches. Also too, poor sleep the night before also creates headaches with me.

I use Omega 3s from time to time. While I'm at school I'll supplement with them since the food on campus sucks and I can't afford good food, but when I'm home I like to try and get all the healthy fats from food (I'm a huge fan of fish).

I have come to the conclusion that even with my high intake of fish, I must still not be getting enough EFA/Omega-3s since I get more frequent headaches while at home than at school, which is weird since while I'm home it's always for vacation and most of my headaches are tension and stress related.

CoQ10 is by far one of the most underrated supplements today. The FDA once banned CoQ10 and then later highly taxed it due to the fact that it’s sold as a prescription drug in Japan and the fact that it was an ‘unproven’ therapy. CoQ10 has shown many benefits to the after American and has no found side effects. The FDA banned CoQ10 simply because they were afraid larger drug corporations would lose money due to the health benefits of CoQ10.... at least that's my conspiracy theory for ya


As for the caffeine intake and headaches, I've had great results with Palo Alto's Reset A.D. in the past when I was coming off of Caffeine and it's relatively cheap. You could potentially look into making it a staple and just continuing with your caffeine regiment as is. The other interesting supp. for headaches if Picamilon. It's been used for alcohol withdrawal with some great results.

[ReaperX]

I'm not really sure how the omega-3s really affect the inflammatory effects. I would just assume if the 3's overwhelm the 6's then that's where the balance is.

Omega-3 metabolism follows virtually the same pathway as Omega-6's.

Omega'3s
EPA->LOX->LTB 5 (anti)
EPA->COX->PGE 3 (anti)

[ReaperX]

I saw the new Rocky Balboa last night. Is Sylvester Stallone's body a true representation of a 61-62 yr old ? I recall looking at a thread that the forum member: AGELESS started, and AGELESS looks 1,000% better than Stallone did. Stallone's body looks like it was just completely wornout.

Then again I'm not sure what a 61 yr old looks like on gear.

[cal62887]

Originally Posted by ReaperX

I saw the new Rocky Balboa last night. Is Sylvester Stallone's body a true representation of a 61-62 yr old ? I recall looking at a thread that the forum member: AGELESS started, and AGELESS looks 1,000% better than Stallone did. Stallone's body looks like it was just completely wornout.

Then again I'm not sure what a 61 yr old looks like on gear.

His body is the product of HGH...

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...ory?id=3174543

[ReaperX]

Originally Posted by cal62887

His body is the product of HGH...

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/...ory?id=3174543

I remember reading about that. I like his ignorance plea, however, if you are moving 48 vials, I'm pretty sure that dosen't happen by accident. lol.