Here we go, I'd like to build this thing up! Anyone who has good-bad feedback please post. This will be a sticky, so please restrict all other comments so anyone who wants feedback doesn't have to go through tons of posts. Thanks in advance.
I noticed DOMS after 8-10days @ 2 gels/ED which was exactly what X-Factor claimed.Here we go, I'd like to build this thing up! Anyone who has good-bad feedback please post. This will be a sticky, so please restrict all other comments so anyone who wants feedback doesn't have to go through tons of posts. Thanks in advance.
alot of new designers would barely give you those gains bro, and the fact your not messing with your hormones has sold me on it.My very first cycle, in early 2005 before becoming affiliated with MN, back when the labels were just straight ugly and you needed 3 bottles, I gained a very good amount of lean mass. I believe it came in to be around 10 lbs in 50 days. Quite good considering my strength shot through the roof and I lost a nice amount of fat without dieting.
My first cycle of X-Factor was early last year before I started work for MN. It was what convinced me that they were a good company. The log is somewhere on the board, but essentially my results were:
--40-50lb increase on 6 rep squat
--30lb increase on bench (6-10 reps)
--30lb increase on bent over row
--12 pounds gained
--un-measured decrease in bodyfat
--no problems with sleep
--great energy and focus
My next cycle occurred later that year lasted about 35 days (I was cutting) and went something like:
--dramatic strength increases on all lifts (sorry, didn't record numbers) though not as big as my first cycle
--gained approx 7lbs
--lost approx 5% bodyfat (yes, in 35 days)
--mild-moderate sleep disturbance when coupled with caffeine
--improvement in endurance (first time I noticed this)
Since then I have done 2 short term experimental XF logs that really don't apply. They were done in such a way as to asses the possibility of varous side-effects.
And of course, as is expected, I had some serious muscle soreness going on.
BTW, I might be starting a long term X-Factor log soon. Plan to cycle for 75-100 days and possibly even do a high dose of 1250mg. We'll see. I've already sarted loading X-factor and will know if I'm going to do the log by this coming Monday. If you want, I can come back in and post a link to it when/if it's up.
in terms of weight gains? put on about 10lbs
Strenght gains? increased pretty well, still going up to.
fat loss? I was bulking, so i shot up to about 230lbs
bulking or cutting? bulking
at wht cal intake?ex 500 under maintance I was eating a bit over 4000cal
You that have tryed it,please gather your results here
I was very satisfied with XF. I believe, IMO, it is more of a "bodybuilders" supplement rather than for a power lifter. I got nice size and strength gains but honestly feel that if I were to have done a higher rep (bodybuilding) routine, I would have put on more size, but I am after strength this time around.
I got about three weeks left in my cycle, and it's worked pretty well. Nothing incredible, but to be fair I completely fell off my diet and training schedule during the 2nd week because I was sick. And since this stuff has been working increasingly better the last week and a half, I'll probably be a satisfied customer by the end of the cycle.
- Approx. 4lbs of LM (which is decent for me)
- Mild fat loss
- Strength increases in shoulder presses, shrugs, deadlifts (bench remains stagnant though)
- DOMS last two weeks
- Some acne
- Bad insomnia when taking a pill before bed
Originally Posted by acecombact1
Measurement______Start_______End______Change
Body Weight_______204.5______210______+ 5.5lbs
Body Fat__________n/a________n/a______- .5%
Bench Press_______205 / 8_____225 / 8___+ 20lbs
Squat____________265 / 6_____275 / 10__+ 10lbs & 4 reps
Deadlift__________180 /6-8___ 205 / 6-8_ + 25lbs
Truncated summary: “…Strength gains were very visible on all my lifts… Endurance was most significant gain from this experiment. I was able to go longer in the gym without being tired… I didn’t notice much of sides [effects]… My face skin became oily, other parts in the body the skin was dry and rough. I also noticed my joints were dryer, and noticed pain in my wrist and elbow. But I reduced dose of X-factor during last week, and added some MSM, and I was good after that. Bottom line: X-factor is very decent non-hormonal anabolic, and I think it has a lot of potential…”
Originally Posted by animalfan
Measurement_________Start______End________Change
Body Weight__________165_______172________+ 7lbs (+ 9.5 lbs Lean Mass)
Body Fat_____________11%_______9.5%______- 1.5%
Incline Bench__________-__________-_________+ 25 lbs & reps
Squat________________-__________-_________+ 40 lbs & reps
Truncated summary: “Body weight up to 172 this morning, up around 7 pounds. Bodyfat decreased by 1.5% total…I had raised calories up about 4/500 a day, to 33/3400. I had strength increases on all lifts; I was focused on bringing up my incline bench and squat. Squat is up 40 pounds, incline bench is up 25, all for reps… The pumps that I had noticed seemed to stick around till now, and the soreness I had in the beginning of the trial hasn't been an issue for the past 2/3 weeks. I think I had gotten used to it. Acne was an issue for me at the beginning for the cycle, but added vitamin b6 and using oxy pads quite often took care of that. I am very satisfied with this product. I'll surely be buying another run of it later in the year.”
Originally Posted by bigasssnowman
Measurement__________Start_____End_____Change
Body Weight___________207______210_____+ 3lbs (+ 9.2 lbs Lean Mass)
Body Fat______________16.6%____13.6%___- 3%
Dead Lift (still leg)______-_________-_______+ 15 lbs
Incline Bench _________-__________-_______+ 20 lbs
Lat Pull Downs_________-_________-_______+ 20 lbs
Bent Over Rows________-_________-_______+ 15 lbs
Shoulder Press_________-_________-_______+ 10 lbs
DB Skull Crushers_______-_________-_______+ 5 lbs
“Pumps have been unreal, better then any no2 I have taken. In October I was able to squat 238lbs 25 times. I just tried to get 225 as many times as I could, and at 12 my pump was so big and intense that I could not do anymore. My legs get a little more sore then normal. Other then that the soreness only lasts about 1 day longer then normal. Strength: is up on everything but legs.. (hurt my knee). Bi's are about the same. Right now I’m just trying to maintain their size and not get them any bigger. Overall I would say this product is working pretty damn good, and I wish I could say that for some of the other **** I’ve wasted $ on.”
Originally Posted by EME
(Cutting Cycle/Contest Prep)
Measurement___________Start__________End_____Chang e
Body Weight ___________176___________163_____- 13 lbs
Lean Body Mass_________155.59lbs______151.92___- 3.67 lbs (mostly water)
Body Fat_______________11.6%_________6.8%____- 4.8%
Truncated summary: “The goal of my training during this phase was to cut toward competition condition, while maintaining as much lean muscle as possible… I believe I successfully achieved my goal of cutting fat and maintaining muscle during the past 50 days, and I believe that X-Factor was a significant component in my success. The only side effect I noticed was increased soreness during the first few weeks. However, this soreness either went away, or I became more used to it, because I did not notice it after about week 3. I will definitely include X-Factor as part of my cutting programs in the future. I definitely feel it helped me maintain Lean Body Mass while dropping fat. I am also looking forward to including X-Factor as part of my mass building program in the off season
Originally Posted by Mountaineer
Measurement________Start________End_______Change
Body Weight_________217_________223_______+ 6lbs
Body Fat ___________n/a__________n/a_______nc
Strength____________-____________-_________Significant Increases
Truncated summary: “…I ended the cycle at a total of only 42 days on X-factor due to some nagging shoulder pain. I felt that I had to give my body a break for a week or two to prevent further injury. This is an on going problem that has plagued me since I've started lifting weights. I don't believe it is any way related to the X-factor… Total weight gain at about 6 pounds. For me this is quite good. I do feel that this would have been more had I increased my calories… Overall I would give this product my thumbs up. I think this product helped me increase strength more than anything… I will definitely use it again. I feel to get the most from it you have to eat more calories to get the most from it. I do not know if the increased caloric demand is from protein synthesis or what but I do feel it is definitely there
Measurement________Start_____End______Change
Body Weight_________193______204______+ 11 lbs
Body Fat____________n/a______n/a_______n/a
Strength____________-________-_________Significant Increases
Truncated summary: “Overall my results have been really satisfactory. Remember how I started with my bodyweight of 193lbs? - Well after eight weeks I now weigh 204lbs. - that's an 11 lb increase. My wife and kids have really noticed my muscle size development. I love it. Every workout I did there was an increase in strength. And all I did was increase my intake of protein- whatever I could find - protein shake, chicken sandwich, tuna, etc. Needless to say, my workout intensity really improved. Even now, I can still feel the flu-like soreness on my muscles after working out. And the muscle pump is really great… I'll probably cycle off for a month and then resume for another eight weeks
Originally Posted by Zackattach43
Measurement____________Start__________End_______Ch ange
Body Weight_____________191___________196_______+ 5 lbs (+6.53 lbs Lean Mass)
Body Fat________________14.9%_________13.7%_____- .8% (increased abdominal visibility)
Chest___________________46”___________46.5”___ ____ + .5” (more developed and ripped)
Waist__________________35.75”__________35”____ ____ - .75”
Forearms_______________12.5”___________13”+___ ____ .5” (new exercises also started)
Arms___________________15.5”___________15.75”_ ____ _+ .25” (more triceps mass)
Calves__________________15”_____________15.25” ____ __+ .25”
Quads__________________24.5”____________24.5”_ ____ __n/c – groin injury
Bench________________185 / 7 reps________225 / 5______significant increase
Lat Pulldowns___________120 / 8___________150 / 6______significant increase
Pull ups__________________13______________22__________+ 9 reps
Squats_________________225 / 6____________n/c_________injury
Bend over calf raises_____320 / 15__________360 / 15______+ 40 lbs
Seated Smith Raises______105 / 8___________125 / 4_______n/a
Truncated summary: Other lifts were about the same; those are the ones with the major differences. In not a single lift did anything go down. I never experienced any pumps the people were talking about; only pumps were in my arms as usual. It did help increase in my strength, and also seemed to help with fat loss - more so towards my image in the mirror than in the actual numbers itself. My girlfriend noticed a tremendous increase in my size and thought I needed to upgrade my polo shirt sizes even though she dug the sleeves looking like there were about to rip. My pecs are more finely tuned conditioned wise, especially the outer and have a more ideal shape. My forearm size went up mostly due to the new exercises introduced at the beginning of this log when I started having 2 workout partners (aka the ego contest or pissing contest). Drawbacks: 2nd week I experienced some burps that seemed like X factor, only happened after the morning dose but subsided after a couple days. Acne did increases slightly on my back. It cooled off but still there was a slight increase. Can’t take pain meds, there was about 4 times I had a real bad headache and just pulled through it without the pain meds. I limited my consumption of Omega 3s. Only consumption was olive oil when I bake my chicken or to coat my steaks before cooking. This is not really a drawback, but for most of us it might be. I am used to creatine/NO products and these are products I can "feel" working or whatever. This is one product that requires patience and evaluations in the mirror each week to properly assess the progress.
]Originally Posted by SixAbs
Measurement____________Start____________End_______ __Change
Body Weight_____________180_____________187_________+ 7 lbs (7.9 lbs Lean mass)
Body Fat_________________-_______________-___________- .5%
Squat___________________-________________-___________+ 30 lbs
Deadlift__________________-_______________-____________+ 20 lbs
Beanch__________________-________________-___________n/c
Pullups___________________-_______________-____________+ 10 lbs
Curls____________________-________________-____________+ 3 reps
Triceps Extensions_________-________________-____________+ 10 lbs
Truncated summary: “No increased acne. Pumps during workouts were amazing, freaking amazing. BTW what’s most amazing is that for most of this cycle I was eating maintenance calories. Good product, and I recommend it. So far all the Molecular Nutrition products I’ve used, I’ve liked. Thanks William for the opportunity and kick ass results!
Here is my trial summary. It should be noted that I was stacking X-Factor with a absolute BARE MINIMUM of other supplementation, in order to objectively review the results FROM X-FACTOR ALONE... in my opinion, the average user could expect MUCH better results if stacking X-Factor with other quality supplements / cell volumizers.. etc..
A few key things about X-Factor... I recommend it for both cutting AND bulking... "bodybuilders", "athletes", AND "powerlifters"... BUT I would wait until you hit a plateau in your progress / training, and I would buy 2-3 bottles.. minimum for best results.
Size Gains:
BEFORE Measurements
Weight: 236
Neck: 16.5
Chest: 44
Bi unflexed: 16.5
Bi flexed: 17.5
Forearms: 13.5
Waist: 36
Quads: 25.5
Calves: 17
AFTER Measurements
Weight: 243-245 (gained 7-9 lbs)
Neck: 16.5
Chest: 45.5 (gained 1.5 inches)
Bi unflexed: 17 (gained .5 inch)
Bi flexed: 17.75 (gained .25 inch)
Forearms: 13.75 (gained .25 inch)
Waist: 35.5 (lost .5 inches while bulking ! !)
Quads: 26.5 (gained 1 inch)
Calves: 17.5 (gained .5 inch)
STRENGTH GAINS:
Deadlift: Up 40lbs for reps
DB Shoulder Press: Up at least 4 reps for sets
BB Military Press: Up 4-6 reps for sets
Squats: Up 10 reps for sets but no accurate 1RM
Seated Leg Curls: Up 25+lbs
Abs: Up 15lbs and up 5-10 reps for sets
Calves: Up 90+ lbs for reps.... very noticable improvement, peak and vascularity.
Legpress: Up 100lb+ for reps...very noticable improvement / definition
Grip: Improved noticably during the beginning of the cycle.
2 yr bump, but I hope you gave it a shot and enjoyed your XF cycle.MN has the best Reps ever!:head:
gonna give X-Factor a try once my knee is heeled.... i hear the joint pain is off the chain!!!