X-Factor & MP Log

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  1. Day 23

    The measurements:

    Weight: 164 lbs + 11.5 lbs (7lbs water weight, 2.5lbs fat gain, 2lbs lean mass gain)
    Waist: 29.25" +1.25" - yikes, not good!
    Body fat: 6.5%
    Abdomen - 10mm + 4mm - ouch!
    Suprailiac - 6mm + 2mm - double ouch!
    Thigh - 6mm no change
    Chest - 3mm no change
    Tricep - 3mm no change
    Midaxillary - 3mm no change
    Subscapular - 6mm no change
    Measurements:
    R. Arm - 14.625" + 3/8 "
    R. Thigh - 21.00" + 1/4 "
    Chest - 43.25" + 1 1/2" - lats are definitely wider!

    I am really disappointed with the waist/fat gain - I expected MP to help in this area. I will not continue MP once the curent bottle runs out. As mentioned yesterday, I am not suprised by the fat gain as I look very smooth. I worked hard at eating the right foods on vacation and keeping in enough calories to keep catabolism at bay while I logged many miles traversing the theme parks of Orlando. I managed to get in 4 quality workouts at the on-site fitness room (multi-purpose machine with leg press, flat bench and dumbells up to 50 lbs). I dosed X-Factor and MP as defined. To put 7/8" on my waist in a week is almost depressing. I will not let this past week bring me down - staying positive is the key! I will try harder these next 6 weeks to recomp my body. Carbs (200g/day on workout days and 100g/day on non-workout days): after morning cardio (40 g), pre-workouts (40g), post workouts (80g) and small amounts (40g/day) from vegetables, FF cottage cheese and almonds. Calories 250/day above maintenence. Early morning prefasted cardio 7 days a week.

    New goals: 167 lbs with a 29 inch waist. That equates to 1/2 lb weight gain/week and 0.25" reduction in the waist. I will re-evaluate in 2 weeks but my immediate goal is to get back my 6 pack. I'm currently closer to a 4 pack on its way to a 2 pack.

    Effects so far:

    The Good:
    Increased vascularity equivalent to being "on".
    Slightly better pumps - but nothing spectacular.
    Slightly better strength - but I expected more at this point.

    The Bad:
    Oily skin - a few more pimples than normal on nose, hairline, chest and upper back.
    Scalp is also a little more oily resulting in occassional light dandruff by the end of the day.
    Slight pressure behind the eyes at times. I experience this 7-10 times per week. I am not prone to headaches so this is a new sensation.
    At first, I was always hungry but this seems to have subsided.
    Increased DOMs.

    I took my ALCAR this morning and I feel energized. I'm going to attack this set back hard. As they say, no time to begin like the present. So I am off to a cardio session.


  2. Quote Originally Posted by jtt

    I am really disappointed with the waist/fat gain - I expected MP to help in this area.
    In my experience, MP caused quite a bit of water retention and I looked fatter/softer despite losing pounds. Give yourself about a week after ceasing MP to shed the water and then you'll realy see the results.

    Remember, with MP and XF in your arsenal, you can go mega low-cal without much fear of losing muscle. Both will work to help you retain muscle and strength. I find it best to add some ephedrine is doing this since it is so damned effective at controlling hunger.

    BTW, try adding a tablespoon of quality lecithin to that ALCAR... makes a big difference in my opinion.
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  3. ditto on the water retention. I did a 4 week mp run a tkd. About 3-10 days after comeing off I lost 2" on my hipps and thighs and waist

  4. Day 24

    Yesterday's workout (chest) was fantastic. Great pumps and intensity. However, strength gains continue to wane. So far the only DOMs experienced are lower back, hamstrings and calves. And let me add that all three are painfull - not your typical DOMs. If my chest and triceps are sore a few days from now, I know X-Factor has kicked-in full force.

    I hope I experience the same effect from MP as stated in the last two posts above. My mid-section is very smooth.

    Note: I had a real hard time sleeping last night. I took my last dose of X-Factor at 5:30pm and MP at 7:00pm. This is the third time I've experienced sleep problems during this cycle. I never have a problem sleeping so it is either X-Factor or MP. Will add this to the official side effect list that I occasionally post.

  5. Day 25

    Yesterday was an off day. Only thing significant to report is diminished DOMS in my hamstrings, lower back and calves...thank God! Slept a little better but not great last night. Tonight is legs. Off to a fasted cardio session. Still waiting for the effects of Sunday's Chest workout - no DOMs so far.
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  6. Day 28

    Weekly measurements:

    Weight: 162.5 lbs + 10 lbs (down 1.5 lbs from last week)
    Waist: 29.125" +1.125 (down .125" from last week)
    Body fat: 6.03%
    Abdomen - 8mm (down 2mm from last week)
    Suprailiac - 5mm (down 1mm from last week)
    Thigh - 6mm no change
    Chest - 3mm no change
    Tricep - 3mm no change
    Midaxillary - 3mm no change
    Subscapular - 6mm no change
    Measurements:
    R. Arm - 14.5" (down 1/8" from last week)
    R. Thigh - 21.00" no change from last week
    Chest - 43.25" (down 0.25" from last week)

    Comments:

    Waist, weight, etc. are all down from last week when I was on vacation. While I ate well during vacation (always ate out), it is tough to avoid the sodium commonly found in restaurant food and as a result, the weight and waist gains made during the vacation were mainly attributable to holding water. This is the week that I should begin really gaining weight and strength. I will continue to focus on the diet and brief but intense training. I would like to be 164 - 165 by next Friday which will mark the halfway point of this 67 day cycle.

  7. Day 29

    Yesterday I worked Back & Biceps: deads, cable rows, pull-ups and curls. Minor strength gains experienced but I really expected greater increases after 4 weeks. This morning my lower back & hamstrings are sore so the DOMs sides are there. Pumps are decent and the weight and size increases are fairly apparent but the strength gains or lack of gains is somewhat disappointing.

    Today is chest shoulders and triceps with chest (bench press) one of the better/consistent strength indicators for me.

    I performed a 25 minute pre-fasted cardio session this morning. I will back off to 4 sessions per week as I try to put on 4-5 pounds over the next five weeks. I'm also going to continue with MP which will run out on day 60 of my 67 day X-factor cycle. So over the last 7 days of my cycle, I should experience some water reduction that everyone associates with MP usage. I'm a little skeptical of this but time will tell. I will most likely take daily caliper and waist measurements from day 55 - 60 and then continue through day 67 to see if this "MP water effect" is real.

  8. Day 30

    I woke this morning later than usual and very sore. I did a split session yesterday (Chest & Abs morning and Shoulders & Triceps evening). I also took 6 doses yesterday: 1 w/breakfast, 2 before morning workout, 2 before evening workout and 1 w/last meal. I am glad for this morning's DOMs. I also look a little fuller this morning. Off for morning pre-fasted cardio. Today is an offday where I am going to concentrate on good protein sources, low to meduim carbs and healthy fats. I'm also going to try and sneak in a nap this afternoon. I took one after yesterday's post workout shake and it was wonderful.

  9. Any updates?? Hope everything is still goin well.

  10. Any updates JTT? I started XF 1250mg/day with TTA and had to nix the TTA after one week due to the extremely painful DOMS which I have never had before, and I have taken TTA at doses of 6grams/day. Also, did you notice a higher frequency of headaches and fatique?

  11. Quote Originally Posted by THE GREATEST
    Any updates JTT? I started XF 1250mg/day with TTA and had to nix the TTA after one week due to the extremely painful DOMS which I have never had before, and I have taken TTA at doses of 6grams/day. Also, did you notice a higher frequency of headaches and fatique?
    Hey, I am on Melting Point right now. Just some info for the DOMS/cramps, buy some Potassium, Magnesium and Taurine. I have NOW Magnesium & Potassium Aspartate, I take with every serving and I have NOW Potassium Gluconate for every meal that I do not take Melting Point. Cramps have gone away completly, as long as I am hydrated. Just a tip for ya.

    How long are you going at 1250 for?? I just ordered 3 bottles and am thinking about doin the 60 days, thank god for college loans.

  12. Could only afford the 40 day cycle. Depending on my results, I might try the 60 day cycle next time.

  13. Sorry guys, I've been distracted lately. I stopped X-Factor after day 34. I didn't notice much the last 7 days. I was kind of disappointed as I have gained more muscle in the past after cutting cycles just using creatine and hard work. The lack of strength gains was most disappointing.

    Final stats:

    Weight: 164.5 lbs + 12 lbs ( I estimate the gain as follows: 7lbs water weight, 3lbs fat gain, 2lbs lean mass gain)
    Waist: 29.50" +1.50"
    Body fat: 7.0% +1.5%
    Abdomen - 11mm + 5mm
    Suprailiac - 7mm + 3mm
    Thigh - 6mm no change
    Chest - 3mm no change
    Tricep - 3mm no change
    Midaxillary - 3mm no change
    Subscapular - 7mm + 1mm
    Measurements:
    R. Arm - 14.625" + 3/8 "
    R. Thigh - 21.0" + 1/4 "
    Chest - 43.25" + 1 1/2"

    In hindsight, I should have waited 60 days after my cutting cycle to get back to a normal diet and training routine before I started X-Factor. Starting X-Factor immediately after the "long" cut did not provide me objective data in which to form a definitive opinion.

    Would I purchase X-Factor again? I still have one unopened bottle and 1/3 of another so I have enough for another cycle. I'll probably use it in a cutting cycle early next year. For now, I will hold off answering the purchase again question...although I'm leaning to no.

    I started H-drol a few days after I stopped X-Factor and I'm starting my 4th week. What a difference: better focus during workouts, better pumps, excellent strength gains but the real difference is what I see in the mirror - I'm getting bigger while my stomach looks leaner.

    weight 172 lbs
    waist 30.375"
    R. arm 15.5"
    R. thigh 21.75"
    Chest 44.5"

  14. The best results from this product are realized through the second bottle... you need to run it for a full 50 days to realize its effects. It takes time for the AA to build up in your system enough to start to see lean muscle mass and strength increases. My advice would be to follow through the whole cycle next time.

  15. Quote Originally Posted by swoody
    The best results from this product are realized through the second bottle... you need to run it for a full 50 days to realize its effects. It takes time for the AA to build up in your system enough to start to see lean muscle mass and strength increases. My advice would be to follow through the whole cycle next time.
    I also noticed that the last 3 weeks are the ones where the majority of the gains appear...

    Good luck with your next cycle sir. Let us know how it goes
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