To jab or not to jab that is the question

daniel35 · 06-19-2008, 04:28 PM

To anybody that fights mma, I'm wondering why is it so hard to get a fighter to jab? It seems like coaches screaming, "work you jab" is the number 1 thing they say while their fighter is standing. Why is it so hard for a fighter to work the simpliest tool in their arsenal to its full capacity? I think this is part of why Anderson Silva is so good, he really has a long reaching jab and uses it so well.

CryingEmo · 06-19-2008, 06:05 PM

Tim Sylvia's best weapon IMO.

But seriously you make a good point. Less superman punches, more jabs.

Dancebot 2000 · 06-19-2008, 06:30 PM

Crowds boo the jab. You're absolutely right, though. Fighters are usually better off when they set up with and work the jab.

Rodja · 06-19-2008, 07:33 PM

Jabs and leg kicks are the most underused weapons in MMA. If you hit 10 flush kicks to the thigh with your shin, then your opponent will not have a lot of movement.

MrBrightside · 06-19-2008, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodja

Jabs and leg kicks are the most underused weapons in MMA. If you hit 10 flush kicks to the thigh with your shin, then your opponent will not have a lot of movement.

I completely agree. I would use both of these to my advantage if I ever made it anywhere in the sport. Just looking to get into it, myself.

Nick Diaz, though, does use both.

Rodja · 06-19-2008, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by MrBrightside

I completely agree. I would use both of these to my advantage if I ever made it anywhere in the sport. Just looking to get into it, myself.

Nick Diaz, though, does use both.

Bad example. He gets a lot of credit for his boxing, but he is technically horrible. No hip movement at all.

GSP is a much better example of a fighter with an effective jab and LKs. Pedro Rizzo back in the day as well.

MrBrightside · 06-20-2008, 12:44 AM

In his fight against Gomi it looked like he threw nothing but jabs. Was just thinking of someone who used them frequently more-so than effectively.

heavies · 06-20-2008, 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rodja

Jabs and leg kicks are the most underused weapons in MMA. If you hit 10 flush kicks to the thigh with your shin, then your opponent will not have a lot of movement.

I agree.

I would add front kicks to the solar plexus as well. Jabbing is that part of the sweet science that some guys just forget.

I would also go so far to say that knees from different angles in the clench are under utilized by most. Anderson Silva does this very well, his knees come constantly and from many directions in the clench and they will hit you in the face. It seems to me that in the clench some fighters get too hung up on not getting put on the ground.

aquanutz · 06-21-2008, 02:57 PM

I've always thought the same thing. Too many guys are throwing crazy hooks and haymakers in hopes of getting the knockout. Need to be like BJ vs Sherk, just pick the guy apart.

poison · 06-23-2008, 02:23 AM

Heh, bj threw more jabs than the rest of the card combined, that night. 100+, I read.

daniel35 · 06-23-2008, 03:52 PM

Does anyone here know where you measure from to get your reach? Is it from your fingertips to your armpit or close fist to armpit or something else?

CryingEmo · 06-23-2008, 03:58 PM

I usually set my flying arm bars up with jabs to the mid section.

heavies · 06-23-2008, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel35

Does anyone here know where you measure from to get your reach? Is it from your fingertips to your armpit or close fist to armpit or something else?

Bro. you outstretch your arms, side to side and measure finger tip to finger tip. Nobody has 1 arm that is 83".

daniel35 · 06-23-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by heavies

Bro. you outstretch your arms, side to side and measure finger tip to finger tip. Nobody has 1 arm that is 83".

I thought maybe they added the two togethor, but your answer makes sense. I guess I should have thought it out myself to keep from looking stupid.

heavies · 06-23-2008, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by daniel35

I thought maybe they added the two togethor, but your answer makes sense. I guess I should have thought it out myself to keep from looking stupid.

Bro. you don't look stupid...

Rogue Drone · 06-24-2008, 03:02 AM

What is stupid is that measure, fingertip to fingertip that includes the breadth of chest, armpit to index finger knuckle would be a practical piece of data.

How come no ever throws a vertical fist jab or cross? a horizontal cuts better with the index and middle finger knuckles, but the vertical is more powerful and less likely to cause injury to the hitter, hardly anyone uses a standing hammerfist that could smash an opponent's nose and no one ever throws a double fist, very powerful and very hard to block, when done right.

heavies · 06-24-2008, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Rogue Drone

What is stupid is that measure, fingertip to fingertip that includes the breadth of chest, armpit to index finger knuckle would be a practical piece of data.

Think about it, if you're standing in front of me and I stand left foot forward with my body rotated close to 90 degrees and I throw a right hand which would be behind me, how far does the punch travel, just the length of my arm??

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NO! It travels the length of my arm X2 +/- plus my chest width, thats why they measure it that way.