Will Randy And Fedor Ever Fight ?????
- 03-14-2008, 09:25 PM
Will Randy And Fedor Ever Fight ?????
Now that Fedor is a free agent and Randy is stuck in his UFC contract will the fight ever happen. After Dana White said Fedor was a joke, will all 3 and there people put is behind them and make the fight happen? There were very few fights I thought would be dream fights and then never happened. Wandy and Chuck got it on but not when they were on a winning streak. Wandy and Rampage 3 would be fun but Randy and Fedor is a must for all MMA fans. What else out there makes more sense? Sure there are always great matchs to watch but the biggest would be Randy and Fedor. If Dana and the UFC truly believe what they say that they are,"an orginazation for the fans" they would make it happen. I for 1 think Randy could win that fight.
- 03-14-2008, 09:31 PM
It is supposedly on for the fall under the HDNet banner, but who knows with all of the litigation between Zuffa and Randy.M.Ed. Ex Phys
03-15-2008, 12:08 AM
I'm just confused since in the past few interviews Fedor has mentioned fights with Barnett and CC even said he wanted a rematch with him before the end of the year. I hope that Randy gets his shot before long, he's only getting older...
03-15-2008, 08:08 AM
I think Randy wants the fight more than Fedor does. It has been Randy all along saying he wants the fight even if it meant breaking his UFC contract.
03-15-2008, 01:17 PM
This was mentioned on another forum, Randy should have to fight Big Nog first, then win or lose he can finish his contract with a fight with Fedor. This way he fulfills his contract, which he should, and the fight with Fedor happens.
03-15-2008, 08:04 PM
Word. Fedor only needs to fight Randy because the fans (mostly uneducated) require it.. not because his legacy demands it.
I've played this fight out in my mind before, and while I feel that Fedor is undeniably the better fighter, I think Randy could win, depending on the ruleset and circumstances of the fight.
I analyze the fight this way:
1. Randy has average TD defense.. but Fedor uses bodylocks and throws from the clinch. This is Randy's best area, and as Matt Lindland showed, if a natural 185lb world class greco roman wrestler can take fedor down, imagine what a 220lb one could do.
If this fight happened in a cage, you bet Randy would try his best to dirty box, trip, and then use elbows to beat up Fedor on the ground. With Fedor's ridiculous amount of scar tissue, He's going to bleed, and bleed quickly. If the fight happened in a ring, randy won't be able to use the cage as added leverage, his dirty box won't be that good, and on the ground, he won't be able to elbow.. just punch. Randy only wins with elbows on the ground.
That said, Fedor is undoubtedly faster on the feet than Randy and has a much more active guard with quicker hips. Fedor's looping rubberband punches have never knocked anyone out before, but they will get him into the clinch if he wants it there. Unfortunately for Randy, randy doesn't quite have KO power either, so he can't drop Fedor like Fujita or anyone else has done.
In the end, the fight's winner will be determined on the ground and while there, its the use of elbows or not that could win randy the fight. without elbows I can't see Randy getting past Fedor's jits.
Anyways, with all that halfassed nonsense typed out, I'd much prefer to see Randy vs Nog, and Fedor vs Barnett for ****s sake.
03-15-2008, 08:35 PM
Current rumor is that the UFC is looking to sign Fedor for a 1 fight deal. Would Randy fulfill his contract with the UFC if it meant he got to fight Fedor. Or has the UFC disrespected him so much that he will never fight in the org again? Of course Nog is in interim champ so you would think they would force Randy to fight him first. But if he loses then what, fedor v Nog again. Or perhaps they think big Timmy can beat Fedor. Unless the UFC is going to sign Fedor to a multi fight deal there's no reason to sign him. He can't just come in for oen fight and beat the champ and then leave. So, I'm sure hte deal will fall through and maybe we'll see the fights sureshot listed but even those are doubtful. I would almost rather see the UFC sign Barnett but again more bad blood.
03-16-2008, 07:49 AM
03-16-2008, 03:13 PM
Just saw a thread that said Randy wants to fight Fedor but not in the UFC. Just watched the video. Randy said he wants it in a cage and in the US but not in the UFC. Randy's *****ing is getting on my nerves. He signed a damn contract and should fulfill it.
03-16-2008, 07:50 PM
I'm sure Kimbo's people could set it up in a backyard somwhere to avoid all legally binding issues
NSCA - CSCS
03-16-2008, 10:37 PM
Seriously, not getting excited over Barnett/Fedor is crazy. Barnett ( while roided ) tooled Randy and has tooled practically everyone else. He is huge, something Randy has always had a huge problem with. He is the definition of a problem for Fedor- competent striking, huge wrestling, powerful ground work- legitimate submission and submission defense and undoubtedly stronger than Fedor. His KO defeat to Rizzo sucked, but the man is a genuine beast.
03-16-2008, 10:54 PM
03-17-2008, 12:50 AM
03-17-2008, 08:44 AM
I really enjoy Fedor. I really really do, he is a phenomenal fighter, always capable of escaping defeat to somehow pull out a W.
But how many times can he come from behind? Sure he mauls / dominates a ton of fighters, but what about when HUNT of all people had a kimura locked in that made all of mother russia cringe? When fujita blasted his ass and made him do the funkiest version of the fish dance ever televised? Randleplex?
The scar tissue on his face is undeniable, hell.. Lindland busted him open and HMC brutalized him with only a few strikes. elbows from the ground do what excatly? cut. it's obvious this would be randy's strategy.
03-17-2008, 10:08 AM
A win is a win only when you're trying to seek position or climb a ladder, but clearly Randy could give two bit $chit about accolades from any organization, he just wants to see for himself and for the world to recognize who the number fighter is and that wouldn't be determined by a cut victory.
NSCA - CSCS
03-17-2008, 11:28 AM
One would have to wonder if Fedor is prepared for those type of short strikes. No one can argue when I say that Mirko has a pretty good defensive guard, yet he got mauled with elbows the first time he came across them. Why wouldn't the same happen to the gerber baby faced Fedor?
03-17-2008, 11:45 AM
Randy is so overrated. Sure Fedor has thin skin and a cut from an elbow is possible. I'd give Randy a 25% chance against Fedor and it's getting less and less as Randy gets older.
03-17-2008, 03:20 PM
Fedor hasn't looked that great in a while. He's got a nasty armbar from the bottom that he's used against 2 clueless opponents, HMC and Coleman and one decent one (BJJ knowledge wise) Lindland. He looked as bad as he's ever looked against Hunt and Lindland had him in trouble if he didn't excessively grab the ropes. Randy may be over rated some, but his standups improved a lot by training muay thai more heavily (and jumping around on the big trampoline for cardio ).
Sureshot, you seem like a solid poster so I'll give you a little heads up on "Alexander". The dude started watching the UFC about 3 months ago and is now sporting all Tapout gear and "Mask" makeup. He pretty much always favors the TUF guys, and someone told him about Fedor so he's all over his nuts too. He's also very irratable because he hasn't seen vajayjay in years. Oh, and physique-wise he's :donut:
03-17-2008, 03:35 PM
03-17-2008, 03:52 PM
I used to post on the sherdog and UG forums pretty regularly, but it's just so swamped with noobs I can't quite handle it anymore. My bjj school has a forum, but not too many people post.. so I just decided to contribute here instead, where the threads don't get buried in minutes, the noobs are few and far between, and apparently legitimate MMA athletes contribute occasionally.
Anyways, I think Arlovksi v Fedor could happen months down the road, or of course Fedor v Barnett. I'd prefer either of those to a stagnant Fedor, or Fedor v Monson, etc etc etc.
I personally don't even want to see Fedor in a cage, as I believe he could lose just from inexperience in that enviroment ( Randy's world. )
Lightweights are much more exciting for me anyways,
03-17-2008, 07:21 PM
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