[swank]

I know some of you have well, probably some of you... Have actually learned to box? I heard one guy suggest boxing is a good way to start getting into martial arts because it will build stamina, endurance, balance ect. And he is right. Then the next guy says naw not really most boxing techniques aren't street friendly. The question wasnt about street friendly but typical mr hardass net guy mr know it all has to throw in his 2 cents. I'll really having a hard time picturing this guy is he fighting down on the docks with kimbo??? Street friendly? Street friendly? Playoff? What do you mean PLayoffs? He must living in the hood or something must be eating supper and saying good-bye to his parents and going out and getting into street fights daily. I'm sorry to tell this guy that boxing is street friendly. I wonder if he has ever actually trained in boxing has he hit a heavy bag? I heard he was an internet legend pro mma fighter though. Has he hit focus mits? Has he learned to parry punches? Has he learned anything? Has he trained in boxing for an extended period of time and then watched a "new guy" come in and partnered up with him and realized how slow and unresponsive this new guy with no trianing is? And to "enlighten" you this same "new guy" would be the exact same type of guy you would meet on the street 99% of the time. Another thing about boxing not being street friendly ok you might be taken out of the realm of being able to box but just because you box doesnt mean that takes away from your ability to wrestle and roll around with another untrained fella you would be meeting on the "street".

I train in BJJ and boxing. I'm not a pro I do it to feel good about myself and better myself. I have been around pros I have trained with pros and I'm starting to smell a rat on here. Its funny but at the same time annoying. And yes I do have a big mouth and I am extremly opinionated. To tell me boxing is a waste of time pisses me off. Because I just got in from my garage training on my heavy bag and I know I know I'm positive what I have been taught in boxing would blow a guy on the street out of the water.

[jmh80]

Dude - that is the biggest paragraph I've seen on here!

[Rodja]

As I have said many times before, Thai boxing easily throws off western boxing. A big outside leg kick not only throws off the stance of a western boxer, but it takes them out of their rhythm as well. Plus, getting someone in a plum and reigning knees is just good ole fun.

[diminuendo]

Whip kick to the quad vs. jab? Clinch is ok in mui thai and from this position most mt fighters can whoop the monkey shiite out of you. Too many strategic disadvantages (rules) in western boxing. That being said, versus your average doophus, boxing will win...then again so will jogging until they get tired.

[swank]

HAHAHA ROdja... Just the guy I was referring to. So how many Thai boxers have you met in the street in the last year?

[Alexander]

I'm kidding with 80% of the sh*t I say, but I'm sure/hope you can pick up on that. I think you're talking about Rodja. I think he was saying that boxing wasn't as applicable to defending yourself as BJJ/Muay Thai, not that it was completely useless. The guy that suggested boxing also came into the thread in a rude manner, stating "take it from someone who actually boxes", assuming no one else trained in anything. Ignorant assumptions are a little annoying, that might be why Rodja got on him a little. Some random posters are living in fantasyland, but the core group aren't. We're all pretty knowledgeable about MMA and many different fighting styles. We're just on here to talk MMA and **** with each other.

[swank]

Originally Posted by diminuendo

Whip kick to the quad vs. jab? Clinch is ok in mui thai and from this position most mt fighters can whoop the monkey shiite out of you. Too many strategic disadvantages (rules) in western boxing. That being said, versus your average doophus, boxing will win...then again so will jogging until they get tired.

I completely agree.

[Rodja]

Originally Posted by swank

HAHAHA ROdja... Just the guy I was referring to. So how many Thai boxers have you met in the street in the last year?

That's not the point; my emphasis was that limiting yourself to only one form of striking (hands) is foolish. You do realize that not limiting yourself to a certain style is the point of Mixed Martial Arts, right? Hell, you could shoot a double and takedown 95% of people on the street, but what happens if you happen to catch someone who falls into the later 5%?

I don't have to prove anything to you, either. I have posted vids of my fights on here.

[swank]

Rodja you said effective in the street you didnt say mma.

[Rodja]

Originally Posted by swank

Rodja you said effective in the street you didnt say mma.

Naturally, you completely disregard my point about being prepared for all situations, but, whatever, dude. You're just trolling to stir up some sh!t here.

[swank]

No actually I'm not trolling to stirr up some sh!t here. When I read your comment about boxing it just pissed me off. Now I will admit maybe I missed something and jumped to fast to a conclusion about you. But my point still is when you say "street effective" I think of the street not a mauy thai ring not bruce lee, not the octagon. I think of the "street" and who I would meet in the "street".

[jas123]

Just buy a gun. This won't work on Rodja, however. He's from Texas so he has at least 3. NEW YORK CITY......get a rope.

[Alexander]

The TS was looking for the most effective way to train in order to defend himself in a streetfight/mugging type situation. Rodja was basically saying that training BJJ/Muay Thai would be more effective than training Boxing for that situation, nothing more nothing less.

[swank]

Alexander just so you know I was not talking about in the thread you are referring to. However I do see that thread.

I am referring to this thread

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Im looking for a little advice. Im 34, 5'7" 170 and in decent shape cardio and lifting wise. Im looking for some martial arts, or self defense type class to start taking mostly for the self confidence to handle an altercation if it arises. Im not looking be in the UFC, I just have never been in the situation of a fistfight. I know that mabey weird but thats where I'm at. Me and my brother boxed a couple times when I was a kid and I SUCKED. I walked straight into punches and that settled that.
Any help on a good starting point would be appreciated. Ive been looking at whats in the neighborhood and theres, Grappling, jiu jitsu, krav maga and Im sure more I just didnt know where to look.

Thanks.

[Alexander]

Originally Posted by swank

Alexander just so you know I was not talking about in the thread you are referring to. However I do see that thread.

I am referring to this thread

where to begin?? <--------

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Im looking for a little advice. Im 34, 5'7" 170 and in decent shape cardio and lifting wise. Im looking for some martial arts, or self defense type class to start taking mostly for the self confidence to handle an altercation if it arises. Im not looking be in the UFC, I just have never been in the situation of a fistfight. I know that mabey weird but thats where I'm at. Me and my brother boxed a couple times when I was a kid and I SUCKED. I walked straight into punches and that settled that.
Any help on a good starting point would be appreciated. Ive been looking at whats in the neighborhood and theres, Grappling, jiu jitsu, krav maga and Im sure more I just didnt know where to look.

Thanks.

Yeah, that's the thread I was talking about. Boxmeman says he's an "actual" boxer and then Rodja replies and they go back and forth a few times. I think you took what Rodja said the wrong way, he is a grouchy ****er though

[swank]

Now that that's settled

Yes now that that is settled Radja I can come back down from my mr ******* cloud. I sometimes get really pissed off at little things. I'm on house arrest and it is driving me insane