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    Quote Originally Posted by CNorris View Post
    Rich is a huge 185'er so there is no possible way he could cut to 170.

    I don't see why he would move to 205 either. I think he can beat any 185'er in the UFC except Silva. He is going to have to deal with that, start fighting contenders and hope Silva loses the belt.
    No doubt, Rich is a huge 185er. If he cut to 170 he would be so fatigued Luke Cummo would KO his ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander View Post
    I think I still have them mixed up, as well as my to/too's. Isn't Beo an english teacher? Maybe he could help me. Although he doesn't seem to acknowledge anyone's posts.

    Do you think theres any chance of Evans beating 2.0? I think it will be a good fight, but 2.0 will get the win.

    I actually started to feel a little bad for the sh*t in the pants oaf, then I just remembered a few of his victory celebrations.
    Yeah, I wonder if Beo wears Tapout shirts to intimidate his students?

    I don't think that Evans has a chance against 2.0. He looked a little overwhelmed against Tito and Page is tougher. Hopefully, he destroys Bisping, though. What was up with Anderson doing the little Rashad dance in there? I guess it sort of a "you can't hurt me" message.

    At least a few times Timbo seemed like he was trying to end it, but the clinchfest was pretty boring. I wish he'd take full swings instead of the arm punches, but I guess he's too slow that way.

    Are there any good events before UFC 78, like Strkieforce or something?
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    Goddamn it. I can never win these things. I just don't know enough about a lot of the lesser name fighters like y'all do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jas123 View Post
    Yeah, I wonder if Beo wears Tapout shirts to intimidate his students?

    I don't think that Evans has a chance against 2.0. He looked a little overwhelmed against Tito and Page is tougher. Hopefully, he destroys Bisping, though. What was up with Anderson doing the little Rashad dance in there? I guess it sort of a "you can't hurt me" message.

    At least a few times Timbo seemed like he was trying to end it, but the clinchfest was pretty boring. I wish he'd take full swings instead of the arm punches, but I guess he's too slow that way.

    Are there any good events before UFC 78, like Strkieforce or something?
    I think Anderson has been doing that for a long time. I recall him doing that in a Meca fight back in 2001.

    As far as any good events, all I know of are the mmaweekly rumors. EliteXC, November 10, featuring Nick Diaz, Jake Shields, and Rogue's b*tch, Kimbo. Then November 16, Strikeforce is having a 4 man MW tourney featuring Sasaki, Jorge Santiago, Prangley, and Vitale, not bad. Also on that card Riggs is fighting the infamous TBA, Headhunter vs Overeem, and Cung Le vs Misaki. Cung Le/Misaki should be interesting. "Don't fear me, fear the consequences" should rack up another KO against the "I could really care less" Demolition Man.

    I think Beo does wear a tap-out cut off exposing his twin barbed wire armband tats:bruce1:
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    Thank. god. for. the Grammar. Checker. in. M$. Word, for. when. I. write. formally. I. haven't. received instruction. in English. syntax. since. the. Seventies.

    Not only does Anderson Silva have superb offensive striking skills, he's also using his forearms to deflect strikes. That would seem like a no brainer, their size and strength versus a smaller fragile hand on a quicker arc, but , to my knowledge, no one else in the UFC is doing this.

    Belcher threw some nice standing horizontal elbows too, those two techniques are the future of MMA striking, the next technique yet unseen, again AFAIK, is double fists.

    A short compact strong wrestler that can control and pound Silva's torso, inside his long ultra deadly limbs would be Silva's biggest threat, that be Hendo. IMO, Yushin Okami should be Silva's next opponent, his style and strength is a better match up with Anderson than Franklin's is.

    Vera, to my eye, looked unsure of himself in the walkin and scared of Sylvia in the exchanges, he was ducking his head and looking away as Tim was advancing, not a good sign. Clinching up and doing nothing, another boring Sylvia fight to a decision, but I would blame Vera more for this, the Ogre was looking to finish.

    Overall, not a very good event, about what I expected.
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    I have some bad news. I think I am going to have to fight A. Silva. My wife has been talking about him non-stop since the fight last night.

    For the record, no Tapout shirts or barbed tats here, though I do have a sweet PUMA parody shirt that says MMA with a thai kick replacing the puma: IronChin
    I am an English teacher, but I'm not too likely to stick with it. I invest way too much time and energy for too little return. It is really hard to watch kids who grow up with nothing, except a ton of talent, blow their only opportunity for a better life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Drone View Post
    Thank. god. for. the Grammar. Checker. in. M$. Word, for. when. I. write. formally. I. haven't. received instruction. in English. syntax. since. the. Seventies.

    Not only does Anderson Silva have superb offensive striking skills, he's also using his forearms to deflect strikes. That would seem like a no brainer, their size and strength versus a smaller fragile hand on a quicker arc, but , to my knowledge, no one else in the UFC is doing this.

    Belcher threw some nice standing horizontal elbows too, those two techniques are the future of MMA striking, the next technique yet unseen, again AFAIK, is double fists.

    A short compact strong wrestler that can control and pound Silva's torso, inside his long ultra deadly limbs would be Silva's biggest threat, that be Hendo. IMO, Yushin Okami should be Silva's next opponent, his style and strength is a better match up with Anderson than Franklin's is.

    Vera, to my eye, looked unsure of himself in the walkin and scared of Sylvia in the exchanges, he was ducking his head and looking away as Tim was advancing, not a good sign. Clinching up and doing nothing, another boring Sylvia fight to a decision, but I would blame Vera more for this, the Ogre was looking to finish.

    Overall, not a very good event, about what I expected.
    I noticed those elbows too, he was utilizing them quite well coming out of clinches. Do you think more people are going to start throwing the horizontal elbow coming out of cage clinches, or even from a MT clinch Rogue?
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    One good thing about wifey's newfound obsession with A.Silva is that she said she'd buy me this: http://www.spidersilva.com/content/view/1/10/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    I noticed those elbows too, he was utilizing them quite well coming out of clinches. Do you think more people are going to start throwing the horizontal elbow coming out of cage clinches, or even from a MT clinch Rogue?
    I think Silva threw a few of those too. More people need to strike coming out of clinches. I think that was how Cote caught "Da Spyduhhhhhh" Grove.
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    Yeah right Beo, this is really what your gf is going to buy you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beowulf View Post
    I have some bad news. I think I am going to have to fight A. Silva. My wife has been talking about him non-stop since the fight last night.

    For the record, no Tapout shirts or barbed tats here, though I do have a sweet PUMA parody shirt that says MMA with a thai kick replacing the puma: IronChin
    I am an English teacher, but I'm not too likely to stick with it. I invest way too much time and energy for too little return. It is really hard to watch kids who grow up with nothing, except a ton of talent, blow their only opportunity for a better life.
    That's too bad, Beo. I've taught many college courses and seen similar things with students that had nothing but actually made it to college, but didn't have the encouragement/support to stick with it. I've also seen too many students with terrible HS teachers that let them get away with doing/learning nothing. Then they come in and can't believe what I/we demand of them. It sounds like you care, though, so it's disappointing that it's not working out for you. Good luck with whatever you decide.

    As for the wife, maybe you need to get better dance moves to win her attention back. Try this one.

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    Thanks for the support, and clever posting. She did enjoy that bobbing and weaving--which was pretty ballsy considering his hands were at his knees while he was doing it.

    The school where I work actually prepares city kids extremely well for college, but I don't enjoy failing 1/3 of my students. I love seeing kids succeed, but one out of ten is not enough to keep me going every day. Worse than that is the fact that I work 12-14 hours during the week, plus another 10 on the weekend. I just don't get paid enough to do that, and when we have kids, I don't want to remove myself from my children's lives to correct papers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    I noticed those elbows too, he was utilizing them quite well coming out of clinches. Do you think more people are going to start throwing the horizontal elbow coming out of cage clinches, or even from a MT clinch Rogue?
    Maybe, but, based on my experience, it's a really hard technique to use well in motion. I say this because the distance from deltoid to elbow edge is so short, it's very easy to miss and throwing an elbow across exposes one's ribcage to a nasty counterpunch.

    It also requires a mental connection to the striking surface of the elbow that is not the natural ingrained one that exists to the fist and for best effect, it should be thrown open hand, a clenched fist tightens the forearm and reduces the velocity of an elbow strike.

    It's a good first strike technique in virtually motionless close quarters, not the best but good, like a bar fight, but in ring motion, hard to do, I can't do it well, maybe if I was still a nubile young nymph; insert Dancing Fairy Emoticon.

    Defensive elbows I use, this is an natural reaction with one's hands held high and shoulders up, a fast and strong defensive shield in relation to the virtually no padding and small size of a MMA gloved hand.

    What suprises me is that no one is using double fists, very hard to block two at a time and very powerful when one can throw both sides of the shoulders and back into a hit with some leg drive. It's a dangerous choice, it can do serious internal damage when that much kinetic energy is driven in at one time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Drone View Post
    Maybe, but, based on my experience, it's a really hard technique to use well in motion. I say this because the distance from deltoid to elbow edge is so short, it's very easy to miss and throwing an elbow across exposes one's ribcage to a nasty counterpunch.

    It also requires a mental connection to the striking surface of the elbow that is not the natural ingrained one that exists to the fist and for best effect, it should be thrown open hand, a clenched fist tightens the forearm and reduces the velocity of an elbow strike.

    It's a good first strike technique in virtually motionless close quarters, not the best but good, like a bar fight, but in ring motion, hard to do, I can't do it well, maybe if I was still a nubile young nymph; insert Dancing Fairy Emoticon.

    Defensive elbows I use, this is an natural reaction with one's hands held high and shoulders up, a fast and strong defensive shield in relation to the virtually no padding and small size of a MMA gloved hand.

    What suprises me is that no one is using double fists, very hard to block two at a time and very powerful when one can throw both sides of the shoulders and back into a hit with some leg drive. It's a dangerous choice, it can do serious internal damage when that much kinetic energy is driven in at one time.
    A double-fist would be deadly if connected, but I would think it leaves a myriad of possibilities open if missed. If you threw it from the hip, getting the most leg-drive, you'd leave yourself open for both counterpunches and shoots. I think the best would probably be in a GnP situation after creating distance with some jabs. Either that or like a double-hammerfist.

    I see what you're saying about the elbows though. Definitely difficult to utilize them with as much accuracy and coordination as a punch. I was thinking in the clinch, up against the cage, would be the most viable option as one could use some upper body torque to simultaneously create distance, and for velocity.
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    Both are doable, takes new practice. They are like spinning backfists and the like, the unexpected used at the right time.

    I hear that Big Nog is practicing the Vulcan Neck Pinch, and that Houston Alexander is working on sharpening his cone to spear, ala Cornhusker Football style, someone's chest, but these may just be urban legends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogue Drone View Post
    Both are doable, takes new practice. They are like spinning backfists and the like, the unexpected used at the right time.

    I hear that Big Nog is practicing the Vulcan Neck Pinch, and that Houston Alexander is working on sharpening his cone to spear, ala Cornhusker Football style, someone's chest, but these may just be urban legends.
    lol.

    I think I also heard Rashad Evans has perfected the technique of enveloping foes in his eyelids. That guy always looks like he has taken damage after the fight, but never has.
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    How about this? Kampmann-Leites and Okami-Mcfredies to set up the 185 title picture.
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    Not the best event every put on PPV but it wasn't the worst either.

    To those saying Vera won the fight or that it was close...what fight were you watching? Vera did nothing to win that fight, I don't think he did anything to even try and end the thing. I'm not a huge Sylvia fan but it was obvious in the 3rd round that if Timmy had let his hands go a little more he could have damaged Vera. I think Vera will be good, but he needs to get a little bigger and more experience.

    Silva is an animal. The MW division is screwed up b/c nobody can beat Rich, but Rich can't beat Silva. Okami or Hendo are the only ones with a shot at Silva right now. And apparently Hendo wants to hang with the 205ers.

    Belcher seems to have an annoying attitude. I was hoping Starnes would sub him but it was pretty obvious when Alan put his hands down and allowed Starnes free shots to his head that Alan wasn't worried.

    Bonnar actually looks better now than before he got nailed for roids.

    I think Gurgel needs to give it up. He may be a good trainer/coach but he seems to get beat badly in every fight he's in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheNinja View Post
    Not the best event every put on PPV but it wasn't the worst either.

    To those saying Vera won the fight or that it was close...what fight were you watching? Vera did nothing to win that fight, I don't think he did anything to even try and end the thing. I'm not a huge Sylvia fan but it was obvious in the 3rd round that if Timmy had let his hands go a little more he could have damaged Vera. I think Vera will be good, but he needs to get a little bigger and more experience.

    Silva is an animal. The MW division is screwed up b/c nobody can beat Rich, but Rich can't beat Silva. Okami or Hendo are the only ones with a shot at Silva right now. And apparently Hendo wants to hang with the 205ers.

    Belcher seems to have an annoying attitude. I was hoping Starnes would sub him but it was pretty obvious when Alan put his hands down and allowed Starnes free shots to his head that Alan wasn't worried.

    Bonnar actually looks better now than before he got nailed for roids.

    I think Gurgel needs to give it up. He may be a good trainer/coach but he seems to get beat badly in every fight he's in.
    I had Vera winning the first 2 rounds, but they could have gone either way as no one really did anything in either one. I'm glad Timmy won because he was the only one to win around decisively. It would have sucked to have him lose 29-28 when he clearly won the fight based entirely on round 3.
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    Just watched this today...I tried to watch it earlier this week, but fell asleep...ehh...Silva is just not a good match up for Franklin, but at least his nose was still attached after this fight! Not sure who said Vera won or that it was a close fight, but at the risk of sounding like a Maineiac...Tim definitively won...sorry if that was already argued, but I don't feel like going back through this thread...

    So how what are the big plans for the HW division now? Any Brock Lesnar nut huggers yet?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stxnas View Post
    Just watched this today...I tried to watch it earlier this week, but feel asleep...ehh...Silva is just not a good match up for Franklin, but at least his nose was still attached after this fight! Not sure who said Vera won or that it was a close fight, but at the risk of sounding like a Maineiac...Tim definitively won...sorry if that was already argued, but I don't feel like going back through this thread...

    So how what are the big plans for the HW division now? Any Brock Lesnar nut huggers yet?
    Not me, at least not yet. I think the infamous CNorris might be clinging to Brock's sack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander View Post
    Not me, at least not yet. I think the infamous CNorris might be clinging to Brock's sack.
    He has a death grip on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mulletsoldier View Post
    He has a death grip on them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by CNorris View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alexander View Post
    You were right. I knew Jensen was in trouble when Maia came out to the Last of The Mohicans 'theme song'. Jensen's intro song was dope to though. Beo's been into MMA for a year or so and already analyzes fights better, ****in dork

    Anderson Silva has now moved up from #5 to #2 on my favorite fighters list, for anyone that could possibly care. Dude's movement is the best sh*t I've seen since Barry Sanders. Class act, exciting fighter, and wins! I remember arguing with Sir Savage aka Tony 'the Barnacle' Savage about Anderson's ability/future. So far it looks like Savage was right, although I still want to see him against the likes of Hendo/Lindland/Filho, whom I thought he would lose to, and am now unsure. Anderson seems to be unbelievably strong for what he looks like, and I'm not sure anyone even at 205 can beat him. I think Anderson stands a good chance of beating Rampage if they were to fight. Scary thing is Anderson could probably cut to 170 if he wanted to.

    With all the talent available would it be possible for us to start seeing some better cards Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the PPV, but I want better.
    OK, I take back what I said about Anderson being able to cut to 170, maybe a couple years ago. In a recent interview he says he walks around at 97Kg, or 213 pounds. He said he wouldn't mind fighting at 205, it would be an easier cut. I don't see it happening anytime soon, but how do you guys think he would do as a LHW?
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    I think The Spider is deceptively strong. His longer frame makes him look tiny, but the way he manhandled Franklin, a very large MW, makes me think he has enough power (bodily) to contend with the LHW. Technically, in terms of striking, he can hang with anybody, but I think one has to question if his power is enough to contend with LHW power (punching power). While he threw around Franklin, I wonder if a 'Page or Hendo was to grab him in the clinch, would be be able to assert himself?
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