Liddell vs Jardine-slugfest?
- 09-09-2007, 09:16 PM
- 09-09-2007, 10:07 PM
- 09-09-2007, 10:17 PM
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09-10-2007, 04:15 AM
I see it as Dana White's way of getting a fairly easy win for his golden boy.
Don't get me wrong, I really like Chuck but I just don't see Jardine as being a hard fight for him
09-10-2007, 09:56 AM
He's a tough dude and lidell had a reality check after rampage. It's goin to be good, i havent had a chance to check jardines recent fights so i am unable to comment on styles. Beside the fact the are both brawlers.
09-10-2007, 10:12 AM
i think if chucks chin is suspect and jardine comes in smart and aggressive jardine has a good chance. I dont think its a real easy fight but its sorta like a steppin stone for chuck to fight someone real big again. How about if chuck wins give him houston alexander? hahaha that would be nice.
09-10-2007, 11:19 AM
Jardine should get owned in highlight reel fashion. The Forrest fight aside he hasn't really shown KO power. Chuck has a good chin just got caught on the button by one of the hardest punchers at 205. Chuck will win by KO fairly easily.
Alexander vs. Chuck would be fun. Houston's scary for anyone with his aggression and power. Would he walk right into Chuck's right hand or overwelm him by staying in Chuck's face? I don't know. I'd have to rewatch all 100 s of Houston's fights.
09-10-2007, 04:51 PM
I don't think Jardine really has much KO power. He overwhelmed Forrest with GNP, but I don't think the punch that dropped Forrest was that dramatic. He just had threw his ground shots at an awkward, looping over the top angle. Forrest couldn't recover. I think Forrest was winning most exchanges until he got dropped.
09-10-2007, 05:13 PM
09-10-2007, 06:44 PM
I like to see Jardine fight, but I Chuck has a good chin. The angle that he got hit at had a lot to do with Rampage dropping him. It wasn't until the weird horizontal elbow on the ground that Chuck went out, and it was only for a quick second. I don't see Jardine pulling off any of that. Forrest got hit with a barrage, and he was nowhere near being out. He was just overwhelmed.
09-10-2007, 06:53 PM
Jardine will baragae and chucks chin may be moderate but once again chuck needs room to throw his signature power punches, he is not an inside fighter. Jardine will do his close, quick attack to keep it from looping into him.
09-10-2007, 07:42 PM
I think Mezger was a much better striker than Jardine, and Chuck's finishing combo on him was one of the best in MMA. That being said, MMA is always a punch away from being over, so anything can happen.
09-11-2007, 04:18 AM
so mental twitch you would pick jardine to win it is that what your saying?
09-11-2007, 09:20 AM
I think this will be a much better fight than most who think chuck will walk through jardine.
I think both will come prepared and have done their homework on the other guy. I hope jardine doesnt lose his game plan mid fight and just go swinging into this; then he will get countered/ko'd easy.
Chuck historicly has came back strong after a loss and im sure he will now. Jardine is a tuff guy and im sure he will as well. This will be a slug fest with Jardine closing the distance mostly and throwing his sig leg kicks into the mix. Chuck will def be "on his bike" with this fight.
Tuff one to call, but i will go out on the limb and say Jardine by tko late 2nd or UD. I say this mainly cause i believe Jardine knows how to fight a counter fighter and is smart enough to not get caught up too much into a slugout.
09-11-2007, 09:42 AM
It is hard to not expect Chuck to come out and end this fight early. However, it makes ZERO sense to have a Chuck-Rampage III. Maybe he could fight a certain Brazilian...
M.Ed. Ex Phys
09-11-2007, 10:11 AM
I agree wtih JZ over there....i dont think this will be as easy a fight for chuck as people expect and i think itll be a decent fight.
09-11-2007, 10:17 AM
That certain Brazilian is in the UFC and if Chuck gets past Jardine, then he will most likely fight him on the Dec 29th card.
09-11-2007, 10:18 AM
09-11-2007, 11:05 AM
09-11-2007, 11:10 AM
Then what becomes of Wand and Shogun??? Last I heard, they still will not fight each other.
M.Ed. Ex Phys
09-11-2007, 11:44 AM
09-11-2007, 11:49 AM
09-11-2007, 11:51 AM
09-11-2007, 12:26 PM
I by no means am making a legit pick in this fight. I thinkg chuck can end it but wont right away. That being said, i think JArdine is used to being a longer time frame banger so i pick Jardine, third round, TKO(stoppage).
Wandy will beat chuck. Yes, he will. I think chuck is a good stroker no doubt but Wandy can take a beating. I watched him on a youtbe vid BARE knuckle fighting for 3 rounds i think exchanging. When i seen Hendo had knocked out Wandy i was shocked. But Hendo is great still
I also think Foresst has his hands full, BUT im giving it to foresst by decision.
09-11-2007, 01:51 PM
Forrest by decision? Do you know who Shogun is?
I'll have to see how Chuck looks against Jardine, but I might honestly pick Chuck to beat Wand. It's hard to say since Wand will be training with a new team and both just got KOed. '03 Wandy wins, '06 maybe Chuck wins, now = ?
09-11-2007, 02:09 PM
Wanderli is sic though man. Chuck i don't think will be ready for the quick power and intensity.First JArdine though!
09-11-2007, 07:52 PM
09-11-2007, 08:05 PM
This is a huge opportunity for Keith Jardine, and I would like to see him win. He has a lot of raw ability, I think, but he got beat pretty bad last time I saw him fight (Houston Alexander, I think). Then again, Alexander has been looking pretty good against everyone.
I call Chuck winning and making a decent comeback, KO, whenever. Because I called it that way, it will go to a decision and Jardine will win.
09-11-2007, 08:16 PM
09-11-2007, 08:18 PM
09-11-2007, 08:27 PM
I'm not ready to comment on the tactics of Liddell_Jardine, but I sure like the UFC Strategy of matching fighters that are coming off a loss and badly needing a win to get back in the game , like this one and Vera_Sylvia. Vera not on a loss, but to reestablish himself. Oh, yeah, add Hughes and Serra with an extra twist of bad blood.
09-11-2007, 08:35 PM
09-11-2007, 08:38 PM
Yea, thats the exact reasoni started this. I think it's going to just be pure punching. chuck may throw a few kicks. Does Jardine kick? Like i said before i havent seen him fight much so i can't really analize either.
09-11-2007, 08:54 PM
Not better at everything. Jardine has a better low kick, if he does his splits he could go Gonzaga upside Chuckie's head?
Not likely, but I would expect he will at least attempt to pound on Liddell's thighs.
I think I'll go watch Lidell versus Vernon White And Alastair Overeem and Jardine versus Griffin and Bonnar to gauge this one.
09-11-2007, 09:01 PM
09-11-2007, 09:11 PM
Yeah, it ended with Chuck backing away and catching Vernon with a shot to the orbital bone. But there were plenty of exchanges beforehand to be able to gauge some thangs
09-11-2007, 09:12 PM
09-11-2007, 09:22 PM
OT to this discussion, but speaking of Overeem - He and Sergei Kharitinov are rematching at Heros on the 17th.
09-11-2007, 09:52 PM
09-11-2007, 10:28 PM
This is the fightcard, according to the MMA tracker, which is usually updated to be accurate, but I can't confirm this with the Hero's site, it's only in Japanese.
K-1 Hero's MWGP Finals
J.Z. Calvan vs. Vitor "Shaolin" Ribeiro
Kazushi Sakuraba vs. Katsuyori Shibata
Caol Uno vs. Andre Dida
Norifumi "KID" Yamamoto vs. Bibiano Fernandes
Dong Sik Yoon vs. Zelg Galesic
Ikuhisa Minowa vs. Kevin Casey
Takenori Sato vs. Kenji Nagai
Wataru Takahashi vs. Tashiro Nishiuchi
Kazuyuki Miyata vs. Harvey Harra
Fabio Silva vs. Melvin Manhoef
Sergei Kharitonov vs. Alistair Overeem
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