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That would be cool, I guess. Don't we already know how boxer vs. MMA star goes, though, ie UFC 1-10.
Where is the Barnacle? He's been MIA for a while.
Where is the Barnacle? He's been MIA for a while.
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He finally has a chance to spread some Shrek love and no where to be found, It should be interesting since he has wrestling experience. If it wasn't for that I would think Shrek would eat his lunch. I cant remember if a top level boxer has ever fought in mma, Cintron has blazing hand speed. Could be a good fight.
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I don't know who this guy is, really, but he done bit off more than the can chew.
Sherk at 2:00 of Rd. 1 via TKO.
Sherk at 2:00 of Rd. 1 via TKO.
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Easy money for the midget from minnesota.
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I woud'nt count this guy out too quickly, on paper he's a tougher opponent than Floyd Mayweather, Jr. would be.
He's got reach with a big frame, 5'11" that has to cut hard to make welterweight, vicious hands at 25 KOs in 28 fights, he's ~ eight years out of wrestling practice, but there's some experience there to possibly have a decent or better sprawl with an elite boxer's good general mobility and great stamina. Plus he's not new to the preparations and pressures of a big show.
This is far less an attractive fight for the UFC than one with Mayweather would be, less name recognition than Pretty Boy and more dangerous.
He's got reach with a big frame, 5'11" that has to cut hard to make welterweight, vicious hands at 25 KOs in 28 fights, he's ~ eight years out of wrestling practice, but there's some experience there to possibly have a decent or better sprawl with an elite boxer's good general mobility and great stamina. Plus he's not new to the preparations and pressures of a big show.
This is far less an attractive fight for the UFC than one with Mayweather would be, less name recognition than Pretty Boy and more dangerous.
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Last I heard, Sherk was recovering from shoulder cuff surgery, then tentitivly slated to fight Hermes soon.
Last I heard, Sherk was recovering from shoulder cuff surgery, then tentitivly slated to fight Hermes soon.
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I think you're right. It's not worth it to Dana to pay the money and Sherk hasn't exactly ran through the division yet.
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Sherk responds in this article.
A few days before he was to fight Kenny Florian for the vacant UFC lightweight championship, Sean Sherk could barely use his right arm to butter his toast, let alone to pick up a man and slam him to the mat.
But as badly as his shoulder ached, Sherk knew he had to keep his mouth shut.
He'd been in mixed martial arts for 13 years, and knew he might not get another shot at the belt for a long time if he withdrew from the Oct. 14 fight at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.
And so the man known as the "Muscle Shark" essentially went out and won with one arm.
Beating Florian would have been an achievement had he been in the greatest shape of his life. But as a wrestler, doing it with a shoulder so painful it made him wince every time it was touched, might have been the most significant accomplishment of Sherk's career.
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"It hurt like hell and I couldn't use my right arm,” Sherk said of a tear in his shoulder which required surgery and months of rehabilitation. "But I'd been waiting for a chance to win the title my whole career and there was no way I was going to back out just because my shoulder was torn. I just had it suck it up and fight."
Sherk will defend his title July 7 at UFC 73 against submission specialist Hermes Franca in Sacramento, Calif.
Florian would like a rematch with Sherk and there are a slew of other 155-pounders who want to get their hands on him.
Sherk, though, has them coming from all sides. He was called out on Monday by boxer Kermit Cintron, a former junior college wrestler who holds the IBF welterweight title.
Cintron has a July 14 title defense against Walter Matthysse and said he'd like Sherk after that.
Sherk, who attended Saturday's boxing pay-per-view blockbuster at the MGM Grand Garden between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Oscar De La Hoya with the intention of seeking a bout against Mayweather, conceded he got a kick out of the attention.
UFC owner Lorenzo Fertitta and president Dana White brought Sherk to the bout after Mayweather had made derogatory comments about MMA and its fighters. White said he planned to offer Mayweather a contract to fight Sherk that would be "worth his while," but Mayweather said after beating De La Hoya that he was only kidding and had respect for MMA.
The MMA world has been clawing for respect, particularly in relation to boxing, and it says something about the sport's growth that Sherk isn't all that enthused about meeting Cintron.
"Honestly, I've never heard of Kermit Cintron," Sherk said. "One of the MMA websites called me and said he wanted to fight me and that was the first time I heard his name.
"The Mayweather fight was one thing, but I'm not sure a fight with Cintron makes sense. Mayweather is a household name and a fight between me and him would have done millions of buys and would have gotten a ton of attention. It might have been the biggest selling show ever.
"But someone like Kermit Cintron? I have nothing against the guy, but I don't know if he'd sell any tickets. I don't think the UFC would see any value in it. I'll fight whoever they tell me to fight, but without the guy having a recognized name, I'm not sure it is a smart fight to make."
It wouldn't be smart for any boxer to take on an accomplished MMA star like Sherk, who is 35-2-1 and whose only losses came to Matt Hughes and Georges St. Pierre, two of the greatest fighters in the history of the sport and men who fight at 170 pounds, a class above him.
Had Mayweather trained for MMA from the start, he would have been as good at it as he is in boxing, where he is clearly the best active boxer and among the finest in history.
But anyone who believes Mayweather would have a chance to defeat Sherk or any other world-class mixed martial artist doesn't understand the differences between the sports.
Boxing fans who watch MMA for the first time frequently view it as bad boxing. What they don't understand is that the stance MMA fighters take in their stand-up game is different because of all they have to defend.
Sherk said he'd salivate if he saw a fighter in front of him in a boxing stance.
"In traditional boxing, all you have to worry about is punches," Sherk said. "Given that, a boxer’s footwork is different, his stance is different, his shoulder direction is different and he squares up differently.
"In MMA, you have to worry about punches, kicks, knees, takedowns and a lot of things a boxer doesn’t think about. If I saw someone in a boxing stance, right away, I'd know it was a good thing for me, because his foot placement is so wrong.
"It allows me to kick and there’s no way to cover it with that stance. He would have no possible sprawl for my takedowns and he couldn't shoot. He would be too limited and, I guess you could say, really defenseless."
There was a time mixed martial arts needed something that would grab headlines like a bout against a high-profile boxer.
That time, though, has long passed. MMA is doing just fine, as evidenced by the gate receipts, television ratings and pay-per-view sales its fights do.
Champ Bailey might be the NFL's best cover corner, but no one expects him to be able to clamp down on Dwyane Wade on a basketball court the way he might on a Terrell Owens on the football field. That's because football and basketball are different sports with differing sets of skills required to succeed.
So, too, are boxing and MMA. It's time for both sides to move on.
A few days before he was to fight Kenny Florian for the vacant UFC lightweight championship, Sean Sherk could barely use his right arm to butter his toast, let alone to pick up a man and slam him to the mat.
But as badly as his shoulder ached, Sherk knew he had to keep his mouth shut.
He'd been in mixed martial arts for 13 years, and knew he might not get another shot at the belt for a long time if he withdrew from the Oct. 14 fight at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas.
And so the man known as the "Muscle Shark" essentially went out and won with one arm.
Beating Florian would have been an achievement had he been in the greatest shape of his life. But as a wrestler, doing it with a shoulder so painful it made him wince every time it was touched, might have been the most significant accomplishment of Sherk's career.
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"It hurt like hell and I couldn't use my right arm,” Sherk said of a tear in his shoulder which required surgery and months of rehabilitation. "But I'd been waiting for a chance to win the title my whole career and there was no way I was going to back out just because my shoulder was torn. I just had it suck it up and fight."
Sherk will defend his title July 7 at UFC 73 against submission specialist Hermes Franca in Sacramento, Calif.
Florian would like a rematch with Sherk and there are a slew of other 155-pounders who want to get their hands on him.
Sherk, though, has them coming from all sides. He was called out on Monday by boxer Kermit Cintron, a former junior college wrestler who holds the IBF welterweight title.
Cintron has a July 14 title defense against Walter Matthysse and said he'd like Sherk after that.
Sherk, who attended Saturday's boxing pay-per-view blockbuster at the MGM Grand Garden between Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Oscar De La Hoya with the intention of seeking a bout against Mayweather, conceded he got a kick out of the attention.
UFC owner Lorenzo Fertitta and president Dana White brought Sherk to the bout after Mayweather had made derogatory comments about MMA and its fighters. White said he planned to offer Mayweather a contract to fight Sherk that would be "worth his while," but Mayweather said after beating De La Hoya that he was only kidding and had respect for MMA.
The MMA world has been clawing for respect, particularly in relation to boxing, and it says something about the sport's growth that Sherk isn't all that enthused about meeting Cintron.
"Honestly, I've never heard of Kermit Cintron," Sherk said. "One of the MMA websites called me and said he wanted to fight me and that was the first time I heard his name.
"The Mayweather fight was one thing, but I'm not sure a fight with Cintron makes sense. Mayweather is a household name and a fight between me and him would have done millions of buys and would have gotten a ton of attention. It might have been the biggest selling show ever.
"But someone like Kermit Cintron? I have nothing against the guy, but I don't know if he'd sell any tickets. I don't think the UFC would see any value in it. I'll fight whoever they tell me to fight, but without the guy having a recognized name, I'm not sure it is a smart fight to make."
It wouldn't be smart for any boxer to take on an accomplished MMA star like Sherk, who is 35-2-1 and whose only losses came to Matt Hughes and Georges St. Pierre, two of the greatest fighters in the history of the sport and men who fight at 170 pounds, a class above him.
Had Mayweather trained for MMA from the start, he would have been as good at it as he is in boxing, where he is clearly the best active boxer and among the finest in history.
But anyone who believes Mayweather would have a chance to defeat Sherk or any other world-class mixed martial artist doesn't understand the differences between the sports.
Boxing fans who watch MMA for the first time frequently view it as bad boxing. What they don't understand is that the stance MMA fighters take in their stand-up game is different because of all they have to defend.
Sherk said he'd salivate if he saw a fighter in front of him in a boxing stance.
"In traditional boxing, all you have to worry about is punches," Sherk said. "Given that, a boxer’s footwork is different, his stance is different, his shoulder direction is different and he squares up differently.
"In MMA, you have to worry about punches, kicks, knees, takedowns and a lot of things a boxer doesn’t think about. If I saw someone in a boxing stance, right away, I'd know it was a good thing for me, because his foot placement is so wrong.
"It allows me to kick and there’s no way to cover it with that stance. He would have no possible sprawl for my takedowns and he couldn't shoot. He would be too limited and, I guess you could say, really defenseless."
There was a time mixed martial arts needed something that would grab headlines like a bout against a high-profile boxer.
That time, though, has long passed. MMA is doing just fine, as evidenced by the gate receipts, television ratings and pay-per-view sales its fights do.
Champ Bailey might be the NFL's best cover corner, but no one expects him to be able to clamp down on Dwyane Wade on a basketball court the way he might on a Terrell Owens on the football field. That's because football and basketball are different sports with differing sets of skills required to succeed.
So, too, are boxing and MMA. It's time for both sides to move on.
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Cintron is not just a world class boxer he probably top three in his weight class. I remember the watching a fight where the comentators discussed his wrestling backround. I was thinking back then that he should do MMA.
Many good wrestlers have tuned their skill into very good MMA careers. Cintron is a good wrestler with world class striking skills. He is not just another boxer with no ground game. On top of this he is a great athlete with tremendous hand speed. I don't know that putting him in with Sherk right away would be the best idea. However, this guy could really have a shot at making some noise down the road.
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I never thought about it before someone holding a major title in boxing and in mma.
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I was watching Cintron's latest fight last night. He has impressively precise and heavy hands. The UFC's lightweights would be in serious KO danger if this guy attacked without pause at the bell.
Hardly a revelation that an IBF champ can throw, but he's a cut above in his ranks, and a world apart from the UFCies*, with a strategy of max offense from the get go he would be very hard to counter.
* - UFCies, pronounced Uff Keys, is my trademarked term, use sparingly, it's spicy and aromatic.
Hardly a revelation that an IBF champ can throw, but he's a cut above in his ranks, and a world apart from the UFCies*, with a strategy of max offense from the get go he would be very hard to counter.
* - UFCies, pronounced Uff Keys, is my trademarked term, use sparingly, it's spicy and aromatic.
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That's the one. His opponent was, I believe, 26-1 prior to that fight and had never before been knocked down or out.
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