Steroids in Mixed Martial Arts

[motiv8er]

You would think Bas would be the last guy to get caught up in the painkiller game, being so close with Kerr and everything. Bottom line, most fighters, especially as they get older are in a lot of pain.

He was probably either nursing an injury and/or looking to not feel any pain during the fight. Opiate do that bigtime. I just hope is wasnt purely rec.

[PumpingIron]

A little bit off topic, but not really...I'm surprised that more guys don't use Halo...I know it is pretty intense and that would discourage most, but the aggression and intensity if gives a user is suppositely unparalleled...

Just ask my boy Iron Mike.

[PHWSSJ]

Or you can do the cardio till you puke, then use EPO (get your hematocrit to like .5 maybe ~5 days before the contest, you piss clean and your levels fall to just below the legal limit for blood tests) and you can be a heavyweight and dance like a lightweight for 3 rounds.

ya EPO will work if: you can find it.. if you dont need to cut more than 10lbs in water unless you want to have a stroke .. and if you dont get cut in the fight and bleed to death!!!!

EPO+MMA = bad idea

[PHWSSJ]

A little bit off topic, but not really...I'm surprised that more guys don't use Halo...I know it is pretty intense and that would discourage most, but the aggression and intensity if gives a user is suppositely unparalleled...

Just ask my boy Iron Mike.

i wondered the same... i think powerlifters use it.. and they only need it for a short time unlike 15 min of fighting. From what i hear it makes you feel sick cuz its soooo hepatoxic. Plus most of the time its not a good idea to go apesh1t in the begining of a fight unless its your style and you know what your doing!

[PHWSSJ]

Steroids in Mixed Martial Arts
By Holli Hearne (March 29, 2007) Doghouse Boxing

Arguably the bout having the most impact to UFC popularity was the one fought between Forrest Griffin and Stephan Bonnar on April 9, 2005 at the Cox Pavilion in Las Vegas, NV. This fight was to determine who would win a six-figure UFC contract and earn the title of The Ultimate Fighter. This fight raged for three full rounds with Griffin named the winner and Bonnar also given a contract because the fight was just that close and just that exciting.

The two would meet again on August 26, 2006 at UFC 62. It wasn’t the headliner but it was the most anticipated
rematch to date. The fans were not disappointed. Both fighters were aggressive but the win would again go to Griffin. Following the event, four of the 17 total fighters that night were picked for post-fight drug testing: Bonnar, Griffin, Chuck Liddell, and Renato Sobral. Of the four, only Bonnar failed when he tested positive for Boldenone, an anabolic steroid used for treating injured horses. The steroid is so potent, the FDA issued a warning that it should not be used on horses intended for human consumption. The Nevada State Athletic Commission, the same commission that sanctions the Ultimate Fighting Championship organization, suspended Bonnar for nine months.

Unfortunately, Bonnar isn’t alone. In 2002, Josh Barnett also tested positive for the same anabolic steroid as Bonnar. For Barnett, it cost him the title he had just won from hall of fame legend Randy Couture.

In July 2006, Kimo Leopoldo was pulled from a WFA event after failing a pre-fight drug test. He tested positive for Stanozolol, another form of anabolic steroid. This, however, was not Kimo’s first time at the rodeo with regard to steroids. He was suspended and fined by the NSAC after failing a post-fight drug test following a loss to the legendary Ken Shamrock, another UFC hall of fame alumnus.

October 26, 2006 saw the return of the now drug free Josh Barnett when he was cleared by the NSAC to fight Pawel Nastula on the Pride: Raw Deal card in Las Vegas. Barnett took the win over Nastula who tested positive for Nandrolone in a post-fight drug screen. Fighting in that same event was Vitor Belfort, who tested positive for Hydroxytestosterone the same time as Nastula. Both fighters still await a decision from NSAC as to what disciplinary action will be taken.

Contracts are on the line with big name fight leagues such as UFC and Pride each time a fighter loses. For some, this makes the chance of being selected for random drug testing worth the risk. Ironically, of the four fighters who tested positive for banned substances in 2006, one tested positive pre-fight causing him to forfeit his opportunity and the other three lost the fights they were later busted on. Despite the hype about steroids potentially offering an unfair advantage, it would seem they aren’t necessarily effective in mixed martial arts, where skill is often more determining than muscle size.

there are alot of MMA fighters that juice.. A LOT
just because they dont test positive doesnt mean they arent on anything.
Lots of athletes in contact sports juice. Why .. because it helps with training, gives you an edge, and can prolong your career.
I dont think its nessasary though.. IMO if you look at fighters of old... even soldiers in ancient times, they were true warriors.. probably would eat guys of this time alive.

Just like there is a difference training in a fancy fu-fu gym with new shiny equipment with half naked women and little sissys men afraid of their own sweat talking on their cell phones .. than in a dirty smelly dark gym filled with a bunch of hard asses!

Anyone can take steroids its easy,
IMO to be the best.. you dont need steroids, at least not for a true warrior!!!!

[ersatz]

ya EPO will work if: you can find it.. if you dont need to cut more than 10lbs in water unless you want to have a stroke .. and if you dont get cut in the fight and bleed to death!!!!

EPO+MMA = bad idea

EPO thickens blood but I'n not sure it's effect on coagulation. I doubt it would cause you to bleed like a stuck pig however. Alledgedly the USOC and IOC can test for epo though I'm not sure if atheltic commision testing is as stringent.

I'd like to see Oxycyte brought to the grey/black market as it should be safer than EPO yet just as effective.

[exnihilo]

EPO thickens blood but I'n not sure it's effect on coagulation. I doubt it would cause you to bleed like a stuck pig however. Alledgedly the USOC and IOC can test for epo though I'm not sure if atheltic commision testing is as stringent.

I'd like to see Oxycyte brought to the grey/black market as it should be safer than EPO yet just as effective.

The problem with Oxycyte is that it binds oxygen TOO well. The nice thing about hemoglobin is that it has sigmoid binding kinetics, which means that it'll pick up oxygen in the lungs and release it in the blood. Oxycite binds oxygen very effectively everywhere and it IS useful for oxygen transport but I don't know that it would be the best athletic supplement. Time will tell.

EPO is out of your system in 4-5 days. The way they determine if you've been using it beyond that time frame is if your hematocrit levels are above either .48 or .52, can't remember which. Hematocrit levels below .48 but still above .4 are insanely effective for performance enhancement though...

[PHWSSJ]

EPO thickens blood but I'n not sure it's effect on coagulation. I doubt it would cause you to bleed like a stuck pig however. Alledgedly the USOC and IOC can test for epo though I'm not sure if atheltic commision testing is as stringent.

I'd like to see Oxycyte brought to the grey/black market as it should be safer than EPO yet just as effective.

i forget where and what it was, but i remember reading something saying that EPO will make you bleed like a stuck pig. I could be wrong it was a while back. However... trying to cut water weight is dangerouse while on EPO. That i know for sure... you have to really know what your doing. Keep in mind there is always a price to pay, if its too good to be true it probably is!

[exnihilo]

i forget where and what it was, but i remember reading something saying that EPO will make you bleed like a stuck pig. I could be wrong it was a while back. However... trying to cut water weight is dangerouse while on EPO. That i know for sure... you have to really know what your doing. Keep in mind there is always a price to pay, if its too good to be true it probably is!

Yeah, if I was going to cut more than a couple of pounds of water, I'd just blood dope, rather than use EPO. Same effect, just more trouble to achieve.

[PHWSSJ]

Yeah, if I was going to cut more than a couple of pounds of water, I'd just blood dope, rather than use EPO. Same effect, just more trouble to achieve.

exactly! i have read that some users of epo experienced faster healing... some cyclists report that after 150 mile race they dont feel tired the next day and they can do it again.. little is known about epo, thats for sure.

but still... nothing can replace hard core training!

I always say "easy come.. easy go" its tried n' true!!!!

[exnihilo]

exactly! i have read that some users of epo experienced faster healing... some cyclists report that after 150 mile race they dont feel tired the next day and they can do it again.. little is known about epo, thats for sure.

but still... nothing can replace hard core training!

I always say "easy come.. easy go" its tried n' true!!!!

EPO is fairly well characterized. The reason that people who use it report faster recovery time from endurance exercise is that there are several signal cascades that are initiated as a result of high blood lactate levels and low blood/tissue glucose levels, which upset homeostasis. EPO indirectly causes a decrease in the degree of lactate production which leads to less of a metabolic insult as a result of exercise.

[PHWSSJ]

EPO is fairly well characterized. The reason that people who use it report faster recovery time from endurance exercise is that there are several signal cascades that are initiated as a result of high blood lactate levels and low blood/tissue glucose levels, which upset homeostasis. EPO indirectly causes a decrease in the degree of lactate production which leads to less of a metabolic insult as a result of exercise.

hmm.. ok
i need to read up on this stuff again, i still think that there is more than meets the eye about epo. Its fairly new.

[exnihilo]

hmm.. ok
i need to read up on this stuff again, i still think that there is more than meets the eye about epo. Its fairly new.

The recombinant form produced by chinese hamster ovaries is fairly new... People have been purifying, crystallizing, and studying the stuff for a while. The recombinant protein is almost exactly the same as the stuff produced by our kidneys.

[PHWSSJ]

The recombinant form produced by chinese hamster ovaries is fairly new... People have been purifying, crystallizing, and studying the stuff for a while. The recombinant protein is almost exactly the same as the stuff produced by our kidneys.

WOW!! you know you sh1t.. reps to you buddy