What should Shamrock's gameplan be?

jas123 · 10-08-2006, 02:44 PM

Let's face it this match will almost surely end with Ken being Shamrocked, but his gameplan of standing and trying to KO Tito hasn't worked. What should his gameplan be?

I don't know if he can take Tito down, but I'd like to see him try to put Tito on his back and land some punches. Maybe eventually towards the end of a round, he could go for a heelhook or kneebar.

Despite his poor performance in recent years and the TUF show making him look bad (whether deserved or not), Ken was a big deal back in the early days of the UFC and part of me wants to see him go out on top.

**pistonpump** · 10-08-2006, 02:59 PM

Im really not sure what his gameplan should be. Maybe better takedown defense, and get tito against the fence and pound him.

Rodja · 10-08-2006, 03:04 PM

One word: Sprawl. Take away his takewdowns and Tito is a very poor fighter. He does not have good stand-up skills and takedowns and short elbows are his best weapons.

**pistonpump** · 10-08-2006, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodja

One word: Sprawl. Take away his takewdowns and Tito is a very poor fighter. He does not have good stand-up skills and takedowns and short elbows are his best weapons.

TRUE. he is really good at ground and pound. I think shamrock should fight in the clench.

Rodja · 10-08-2006, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by pistonpump

TRUE. he is really good at ground and pound. I think shamrock should fight in the clench.

Shamrock should watch the Couture and Tito fight everyday, several times per day. Between takedown defense, sweeps, and dirty boxing, Randy owned Tito(the slap on the ass is one of the greatest moments in MMA).

Cordeen · 10-08-2006, 03:40 PM

He should simply revert to his old fighting style...shoot fighting...it proved itself in the past against some great fighters...even Bas Rutten. Ken's ground work has always been his better trait...forget standing up and trying to strike with Tito...Shamrock can take a beating but it's not worth it...a nice leg lock on Tito would be awesome.

**pistonpump** · 10-08-2006, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodja

Shamrock should watch the Couture and Tito fight everyday, several times per day. Between takedown defense, sweeps, and dirty boxing, Randy owned Tito(the slap on the ass is one of the greatest moments in MMA).

Hahaha I agree. I cant wait to watch the prefight weigh ins tomarrow.

jas123 · 10-08-2006, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rodja

One word: Sprawl. Take away his takewdowns and Tito is a very poor fighter. He does not have good stand-up skills and takedowns and short elbows are his best weapons.

Yeah, Tito is kind of 1-dimensional, but I'm not sure Ken has the reactions to sprawl in time these days. He did against Fujita but that was 6 years ago.

Alexander · 10-08-2006, 06:42 PM

I think he should try to kick his ass.

LCSULLA · 10-08-2006, 07:26 PM

He needs to stop looking at MMA circa 1994 and get with the times. He needs to go train with BTT or Chute Boxe and spend a year training with those guys.

Or he needs to bring a bat to the ring.

**pistonpump** · 10-08-2006, 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LCSULLA

He needs to stop looking at MMA circa 1994 and get with the times. He needs to go train with BTT or Chute Boxe and spend a year training with those guys.

Or he needs to bring a bat to the ring.

**stxnas** · 10-09-2006, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Cordeen

He should simply revert to his old fighting style...shoot fighting...it proved itself in the past against some great fighters...even Bas Rutten. Ken's ground work has always been his better trait...forget standing up and trying to strike with Tito...Shamrock can take a beating but it's not worth it...a nice leg lock on Tito would be awesome.

Shamrock was on a local ClearChannel station around here last week and was talking about how that's part of his gameplan. He said that taking a beating in order to wear down his opponent is something he expects to happen in his matches...that is an awful idea against somebody like Tito that is not known to gas.

He also went on to say how he felt that TUF made him out to be an ass and that he thought the second fight was basically fixed.

jas123 · 10-09-2006, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by LCSULLA

He needs to stop looking at MMA circa 1994 and get with the times. He needs to go train with BTT or Chute Boxe and spend a year training with those guys.

Or he needs to bring a bat to the ring.

They should really start an MMA legends league for these 40+ guys who want to keep fighting. Think about it, Saku, Coleman, Shammy, Frye, Royce, Randy, Bas, and more fighting each other. That would be entertaining.

**pistonpump** · 10-09-2006, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by jas123

They should really start an MMA legends league for these 40+ guys who want to keep fighting. Think about it, Saku, Coleman, Shammy, Frye, Royce, Randy, Bas, and more fighting each other. That would be entertaining.

Thats a good fricken idea bro! I think there would be some great fights. That would be an awesome thing for MMA.

**Beowulf** · 10-09-2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jas123

They should really start an MMA legends league for these 40+ guys who want to keep fighting. Think about it, Saku, Coleman, Shammy, Frye, Royce, Randy, Bas, and more fighting each other. That would be entertaining.

...and they shouldn't drug test

Sir Savage · 10-09-2006, 10:47 PM

Try not to get his ass beat.

I think that involves, most importantly, SPRAWLING. I know has Ken good submissions, but that is only one part of a solid ground game. He really doesn't have the other parts.

He needs to stay on his feet and try trading with Tito like he did against Fujita.

I think that's his only hope.